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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #150 on: September 26, 2015, 15:09:09 PM »
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Not through a lack of trying, more a lack of understanding the demograph they are going for.
That was always my problem with it and I think it hurt equally as much as the price jump along with Indiegogo.  In the U.S., I could buy for $170 (just under the original cost):
For $80 a refurbished small form IBM ThinkCentre that could emulate any console through the 32 bit era easily running Linux or a BSD.  I could then buy a high quality USB gamepad to go with it for around $40.
For $50 a quality used Dreamcast with controller I could obtain new indie/homebrew games for + plus play native Dreamcast games and even emulate some older consoles.

The reason to back it would be for exclusive retro style games and the cartridge format, if that is really important to you.  I don't really care too much about disc vs. cartridge but I would have been up for a new "retro" console with exclusives.  $300 for what was looking more and more like a console that wouldn't have exclusives and that I could achieve more or less the same with using a refurbished PC + Dreamcast at $170 just doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #151 on: September 26, 2015, 15:25:33 PM »
You cant really compare it to emulation machines or which i find strange ps4, xb1, but because and simple they wanted a new cartridge machine and people who purely want that format without installing, updates etc
Its a sound idea, but there clearly isnt enough support for a niche product like this, even at $199 i think it would have struggled getting what they are asking for.
Defo inidiegogo killed this before it got going, a mistake they were pointed out befored doing so, they even admitted KS would allow non prototype products but they didnt want people to get the wrong impression, so i suppose its damned if you dont and damned if you do scenero!
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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #152 on: September 26, 2015, 18:01:17 PM »
I am gutted is all i can say.. where do they go now?
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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #153 on: September 27, 2015, 02:08:23 AM »
I just watched this and thought I'd share it...

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Re: Retro VGS
« Reply #154 on: September 27, 2015, 12:42:13 PM »
Omg after watching that and with zero investors as of from 2 days ago this is now most definitely appearing a still birth.

I think that need to walk back to the meeting room and get a functioning prototype together and do a kickstarter!

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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #155 on: September 27, 2015, 13:11:45 PM »
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Omg after watching that and with zero investors as of from 2 days ago this is now most definitely appearing a still birth.

I think that need to walk back to the meeting room and get a functioning prototype together and do a kickstarter!

I think you may be right.

I haven't been able to do lot of audio recording lately, but I did get a few moments to record this video.
In it I summarize how the Retro VGS became a mess and 5 steps on how it can win gamers like myself back.

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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #156 on: September 27, 2015, 14:24:00 PM »
Some great and valid point there fella, but I think the rot has already settled in now. They would need to firstly give everybody back there money and drop Indigogo altogether now, and go off and replace the time they've wasted all those months previous or to the fact of the person "Kevitris" who had a FPGA board near completion for them and now wait until the new tech they have on board has done his Prototype board and then restart the kick-starter.

Although they've had to dealt with a lot of abuse from the internet communities over how badly they've conducted themselves, a lot of people know that they are sincere in there proposal, they are way off the mark in their pricing and it has nothing to do with them been inexperienced to me, or that fact that they need finances to help keep them a float in the future months, secondly they have absolutely no QA team in place either for beat testing the machine, the games etc. even that wouldn't cost the asking price. Their chip-set architecture they are planning can be bought from china for 50 bucks or less in bulk as an FPGA chipset ready to go

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John Carlsen has confirmed 2 important things:

They have settled on a spec of 16,000 DhryMIPS for the ARM processor and that he's currently using a Rockchip 3188 for prototyping. He states that is their minimum. That also means there's no assurance it will be a Quad Core A9 rather than a faster speed Dual Core, which would better benefit Indie games i'd believe.

The machine will use more than 1GB of RAM, though Several GB of RAM is not necessary for it's function. So, if it gets 2GB of RAM it's as powerful as the Wii U probably, lol.

So, at least those are settled. I just wish Mike Kennedy would stop acting like Gamers are buying a dream and not hardware, John Carlsen is a great hardware guy but likes to keep from public speaking.

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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #157 on: September 27, 2015, 14:25:24 PM »
I sure hope they do get it back on track.  There are enough games out there today done in the older style to have a lot of great software without the need to have adapters for older systems. 

Great vid NSG.
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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #158 on: September 27, 2015, 16:02:33 PM »
That's a good video, nosweargamer, and it makes valid points.  We all want to see this succeed but there are things that need to be changed to garner our support.  Your five recommendations are on point. 

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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #159 on: September 27, 2015, 17:54:12 PM »
Brilliant video NSG and I think from RVG's point of view we have at least 7 people singing from the same hymn sheet on this. So expanding these feelings across the net you can see this could be successful if they listen to a few people.
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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #160 on: September 27, 2015, 20:42:24 PM »
The VGS team has been interviewed by RGM.  Check out the interview here (both audio and text):  RGM INTERVIEW WITH RETRO VGS TEAM (UNOFFICIAL COPY FROM AUDIO INTERVIEW).

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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #161 on: September 28, 2015, 21:13:51 PM »
Ok, just going back to post #153, these guys have valid opinions but i somehow feel that they are missing this point.

They mentioned that not having these system online so games can be fixed as a mistake.. That's supposed the be the reason, that its not online. Yes games will have bugs but that's the risk we all take, i doubt that's the reason this is unsuccessful..
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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #162 on: September 28, 2015, 21:59:43 PM »
Omg it's gone ??!? It's now going back on the numbers, now at 64,xxx. Do they really think it's going to become a reality, I've never seen this before were backer reseed their backing? It his has to be a first. Very sad case of affairs it really is. They shouldn't have believed that introducing a machine targeted mainly at collectors which so many have raised as one of the major reasons this has sunk.

Maybe phase of a restart will hopefully get it right and people will invest in it.

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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #163 on: September 28, 2015, 22:02:02 PM »
Nah its happened loads mate, just more noticeable at such a low amount.
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Re: Retro VGS: New Retro Game Console
« Reply #164 on: September 28, 2015, 22:47:27 PM »
Yep, I agree with Zap.  People do withdraw support for projects, that's not a surprise. 

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