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Offline VictorLazarus

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I give up on datasette gaming!
« on: November 10, 2016, 14:40:38 PM »


I'm an avid Commodore gamer, but I've received too much sadness from my C64 in recent memory to bother booting up the system.

To be clear, I have 3 Commodore 64 computers, and at least 4 working Commodore cassette players. Last time I played, everything was fine. Now, none of those cassette players will read correctly, and only one of the C64 computers will boot up!

Its quite a frustrating experience, waiting hours for the game to read successfully and launch. The first time I put in a copy of Lazer-Force, and pressed rewind, the tape snapped!

So I'll admit, I have taken to emulating the system, and keeping the physical games for collection purposes only. At least when emulated the games launch more than 10% of the time, and are not damaging during use. And, I can skip the lengthy loading process.

So yes, I just wanted to vent a little. I'm a little envious of the fact that US Commodore systems used floppy discs, where as we in England stuck to cassettes. Which whilst much cheaper, are failing me now.

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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2016, 19:28:37 PM »
I've never played a game on cassette tape. Sounds like that's a good thing!

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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2016, 21:15:06 PM »
Yeah, years and years of use will stretch the tapes and eventually they will snap.
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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2016, 17:13:08 PM »
Yes, unfortunately it has become a certainty that my cassettes will no longer function. So this has become one of the few systems (owning originals) I don't mind emulating. Although the controls and visuals don't feel the same.

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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2018, 18:26:29 PM »
I have my tape games for looking and sniffing at for sure ;) , use the disk drive cartridge replacement for everyday usage... pretty sure that will load TAPs also, so the full experiance... need to check that though...
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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2018, 13:18:43 PM »
I tried to get back into tapes when I picked up a Speccy recently but the load times are just too frustrating. I ended up using my mobile and a bit of software to speed load every game! So much easier and much more reliable plus it costs next to nothing.

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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 08:19:45 AM »
When I got my C64 back in 1984, I also only had the datassette (1530), and I remember too good what sometimes it meant booting up a game. One of the worst games on tape was Summer Games, as it was loading constantly for every single event. So you threw 3 times the javelin, taking you less than one minute, then you were facing a 3 minute loading screen until the next discipline was loaded, played for 1 minute... you get the idea. Worse was even when you played the events in random order, you had to wind/rewind all the time, and pay attention to that counter, that it's set correctly and not reset.

My cousin had the 1541, and 2 years later I also bought one, damn, was that expensive, 400€ back then, so if you would recalculate to nowadays price, wow. Well, later I also bought a printer, as I was working a lot on creating magazines with Newsroom, and my cousin had the MPS-803, a 3 needle printer, which was so slow, it took minutes to print out a whole page. So I bought the Star NL-10, 9 needles, which cost me around 450€, plus you had to buy an interface module to fit it on the C64 port for around 100€.

Talking about floppy disks, later I bought a 1541-III from Jan Derogee. You can plug it into the floppy port of the C64, feed it with SD cards and it behaves like a normal floppy drive attached to the C64, and with the nice little LCD screen on the front, you could easily see the games you were loading. Sadly, I sold that one too :(

http://home.kpn.nl/bderogee1980/projects/1541-III/1541-III.htm

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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 11:21:05 AM »
I've seen devices like that for other retro computers.  Much more practical and less of a risk of the media failing.  Did the games load any faster with the one you had for the C64?
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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 17:18:54 PM »
The 1541-III hardware is based on a Microchip PIC microcontroller. This microcontroller does not emulate a real 65XX processor and therefore it cannot execute machine code uploaded to the drive (a function that is not supported by the 1541-III). Therefore it cannot act exactly as the 1541, and fastloaders will not work.

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Re: I give up on datasette gaming!
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2019, 00:32:10 AM »
Emulation is the future of all of these type of systems. I say enjoy the faster load times.

 

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