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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2012, 20:00:28 PM »
So, what you are saying is that it needs someone willing to do it since it is technically possible.
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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2012, 20:09:10 PM »
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So, what you are saying is that it needs someone willing to do it since it is technically possible.

Pretty much, would be a good project for somebody. Certainly more worthwhile than some of the crap that's appeared on the Jaguar.

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2012, 20:16:41 PM »
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So, what you are saying is that it needs someone willing to do it since it is technically possible.

Pretty much, would be a good project for somebody. Certainly more worthwhile than some of the crap that's appeared on the Jaguar.

If I knew how to program for the Jaguar, I'd give it a try.  Alas, I know nothing about programming!  With the Jaguar community being so split, I don't see it as an easy task to find someone to do this, though.
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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2012, 21:57:38 PM »
Here is another really cool Falcon game for you, Jeff Minter's Llamazap. This was originally going to be a game for the Atari Panther console.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPVnuSrunKI

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2012, 17:19:10 PM »
Just a reminder for anyone reading this thread I have now added Atari Falcon to the reviews section!  8)

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2012, 14:53:10 PM »
Here is a great development I wanted to share with you!

Some clever bugger has ported the Sharp X68000 version of Pac-Mania over to the Falcon and hopes more conversions will follow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HELyQzBSB9M

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Pac-Mania X68000 ported to the Atari Falcon 030 (16 MHz, 14 MB RAM). A first and buggy experimental test version. The sprites are emulated in realtime so the framerate goes down on more sprites visible. Only about 10 lines of the original disassembled X68000 source code have been modified! Screen size: 384x240 pixel. 65536 colors. No sound emulation yet though.
 

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2012, 16:18:09 PM »
Brilliant stuff indeed.
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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2012, 17:45:26 PM »
14mb!?  :o
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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2012, 17:46:55 PM »
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14mb!?  :o

I think that might have been a typo, a standard Falcon 030 is 4mb.

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2012, 22:31:51 PM »
Great choice of game to port.

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2012, 19:09:17 PM »
They have ported Galaga '88 now too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P3WOcDrtKM

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2013, 13:19:01 PM »
Technically it was a very advanced machine.  Dare I say that it was superior to the Commodore Amiga A1200, as it had a DSP and a '030 processor.  Just a shame that it got little specialised software support and Atari pulled the plug on it.  Doubtless it would have been under pressure for the VGA and soundcard PC market at the time as well. 

I don't think that I ever saw one in a computer shop or a Dixons at the time.  Hmmm, maybe that was part of its problem. 

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2013, 15:10:10 PM »
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Technically it was a very advanced machine.  Dare I say that it was superior to the Commodore Amiga A1200, as it had a DSP and a '030 processor.  Just a shame that it got little specialised software support and Atari pulled the plug on it.  Doubtless it would have been under pressure for the VGA and soundcard PC market at the time as well. 

I don't think that I ever saw one in a computer shop or a Dixons at the time.  Hmmm, maybe that was part of its problem.

On memory stick i'm sending Laird, there's an article from C.U Amiga where the Falcon is PRAISED and A1200 Slamned by an Amiga user and jurnolist, Falcon indeed seem superior to A1200 in key areas (weaker in others).Hopefully Laird will put the article up on here for the benifit of the community here.

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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2013, 18:03:31 PM »
On paper the Falcon was indeed more powerful, but with any hardware the proof is in the games and program's, which the A1200 had loads more of. More bad marketing by Atari.
I still think the AGA chipset was Commodores demise though, the original plan was AA (AGA) in 1991 and AAA in 1994, but Commodore delayed launch because of the success of the A500, cancelled the AAA chipset in early 1993, and started work on a 64-bit RISC chipset (Hombre) the lead designer looking back said it was on par with the Sega Saturn at shifting 3D but in higher resolutions, due out late 94...it came too late and Commodore might still be here...but of course by delaying AGA and having no fpu and only 020 CPU it was still a nice machine but indeed too late to save them.
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Re: Atari Falcon
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2013, 19:03:39 PM »
Just been glancing over the original Falcon piece in C.U with writer saying A1200 was more powerful than Falcon only in terms of it's higher res display (256,000 colours from Palette of 16.7 Million), but changing from 1 colour to another was slow.

He goes onto say 'thanks' to Atari Corp, the Falcon had '..more false starts than a deaf sprinter, whilst the A1200 quietly appeared in Dec and sold 50,000 units in the week prior to Xmas'.

More interesting was C.U's later feature, 'What Computer', Falcon looked at in detail.Under PRO'S we see it scoring with:

DSP chip, true multitasking, SCSI+MIDI as standard and being reasonably expandable.

Under CONS we see it scoring minus points for:

(being) limited to 256 colours, 16 Bit Ram, slow CPU speed and... 'It's an ATARI'

Reading the article they say it was silly to sell the standard model in a 1Mb configuration, as with this amount of memory, it's impossible to multitask effectively or make any significant use of the DSP.

 

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