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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2014, 18:04:41 PM »
I have bought a modded console (Atari 2600 with "AV and surround processor" mod)
from retromod last year, and i was curious: I opened it to see the mod.

this is what i got...

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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2014, 18:10:40 PM »
I can say one thing which is it there is certainly a lot more to homebrew releases than meets the eye, certainly any compliance with modern legislation (which the originals almost certainly didn't have to do) is something that would have never crossed my mind.

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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2014, 18:12:56 PM »
Guys if you have a problem with each other then take it to PM please, I don't want to see it on the forums - thank you.

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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2014, 18:43:25 PM »
Quote from: "The Laird"
Guys if you have a problem with each other then take it to PM please, I don't want to see it on the forums - thank you.

Yes i can not see why this should be important here in this thread except for trolling purpose, too. Yes i sold him a console but as a collector not as creator. I also told him details like it is an authorized mod as he asked for it. i was surprised about that devices, too a while ago and still looking for more information as outlined in my previous posts. As i posted the prototyp and production pcb pictures of my mod here, i can not see any identical layout during comparison. Thats all about and if he has a problem it is a pleasure for me to solve that finally as it seems he has not really a clue about wee nor rohs from his statements.

Glad to know here is a working moderator crew to stop such trolling in first run.
Nothing to add. If you feel free to cleanup this thread please do so, we are then able to discuss important things or be creative according to the atari spirit.
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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2014, 19:09:44 PM »
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
I can say one thing which is it there is certainly a lot more to homebrew releases than meets the eye, certainly any compliance with modern legislation (which the originals almost certainly didn't have to do) is something that would have never crossed my mind.

He do not know that a repair nor replacement/enhancement for a function internally do not require a weee certification as the device was build before 2006. but if i would add a sdcard or create a new device out of it then i must be compliant which do not work for non rohs component like tia, 6502 etc. As they are completely forbidden on top of new devices (even if weee registered).

I was in contact with curt vendel for example regarding a new Atari 8 bit computer based on ARM cpu but fully compliant with old soft and hardware and after we negotiated the possibilities curt was willing to offer some circuits for cartridge handling. Originally i asked them about atari brand and legacy ownership as atari officially not answered my requests regarding possible brand use or license costs. Finally he was quit busy with his book so i sent over some rare 30 year old Tramiel pictures and articles from my old collector stuff  which will be used in the upcoming book. After discussion with my lawyer plan for the computer was stopped because registration fee may kill the economic future of the project specially as the hardcore fans told me that soldering possibility is a must for a next Gen homecomputer (scary... If so the brand do not really care maybe a box with resistors is sufficient for such people  :24: )

I learned during evaluation of different projects (for example a project enhancing snes controllers) that
The european government classified input and output controllers and cartridges as standalone devices so selling, importing always requires to follow the regulation rules. Thats why using original cartridges with new flashed games are ok but writing a brand or add a covers creates a new device out of it then requires registration. Curious, isn't it?
May be thats why thomas is so pissed, his upcoming homebrew game will be a financial suicide run if delivered on cartridge.

offering an external stereo surround mod would not be allowed too without registration for weee and so i ditched the development a while ago even if low hanging fruits. I always talk with my lawyer PRIOR to any project to avoid surprises. For example offering a power supply with own brand or freezer card like a famous atari club does is against european regulations without registration/certification. But as i know they spread this since years so they are already deep in the shit if someone comes along or planned control instance get notice. Due to the power supply branding issue for example i do not relabel the power supply which will be delivered with coleco power connector adapter (as other do).

Today the business is full of traps.
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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2014, 21:23:41 PM »
Quote from: "retromod"

May be thats why thomas is so pissed, his upcoming homebrew game will be a financial suicide run if delivered on cartridge.

Is that a threat ?

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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2014, 21:28:50 PM »
Right this is the last time I will say this!

THIS STOPS NOW!

Anymore tit for tat comments in this thread and I will lock it! Consider this a warning, and that goes for both of you!

We will not take sides and RVG has always been a peaceful place and will stay that way.

Thank you

Kieren

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Re: Why are homebrew titles so expensive and agressively off
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2014, 21:33:28 PM »
OK

 

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