Amiga Thread

Started by zapiy, March 06, 2012, 23:23:35 PM

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Gorf

Quote from: "Bobinator"Well, if we're talking games that weren't on the Genesis/Megadrive, of which there were plenty, there you go. It's all about the exclusives. You have a game that you can't play on anything else, there's your edge when you compare these sorts of things.

One could say that about any given system though. I'm talking strictly from a technical standpoint.
I see nothing in any of these videos that are better than a Genny or an ST.

AmigaJay

Quote from: "Gorf"
Quote from: "Bobinator"Well, if we're talking games that weren't on the Genesis/Megadrive, of which there were plenty, there you go. It's all about the exclusives. You have a game that you can't play on anything else, there's your edge when you compare these sorts of things.

One could say that about any given system though. I'm talking strictly from a technical standpoint.
I see nothing in any of these videos that are better than a Genny or an ST.
A lot of games weren't better than the Genny versions, the fact was the Amiga generated alot of these games that were on the platform first, sure their not exclusives a year or two later but the Amiga was well known for having original and exclusive games first, the fact alot of games were ported to several platforms shows how well received the games were at the time.
I did post a thread detailing games that hit the Amiga first and others that were still exclusive all these years later.
And believe me there's no way a ST could run Ruff N Tumble...even a STE would struggle. It's still amazing to think its running on an A500.
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DreamcastRIP

Ruff 'n' Tumble does indeed look nice for an Amiga game. Nothing particularly innovative (from what I observed in the brief time I viewed that video) and seemingly a mash-up of the likes of Turrican, Sonic The Hedgehog, Ghosts 'n Goblins, etc. I'd definitely have bought the game were I to have owned an Amiga back in the day.
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Some scans from The One:



AmigaJay

Haha! I remember the one always took the piss! Great mag!
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zapiy

Anyone used or seen this site before.

Preconfigured Amiga games stored in a single EXE file.
http://thecompany.pl/game

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Greyfox

Yes, I never actually ran any of the games, but a great job that fella does taking the time to do that, its a great little site for anyone needing to get into it quickly.

AmigaJay

Quote from: "zapiy"Anyone used or seen this site before.

Preconfigured Amiga games stored in a single EXE file.
http://thecompany.pl/game
Yeah, sure someone posted a link on here before, haven't used them though, because unlike dosbox its easier to prefigure a virtualhd and run games that way, thanks though.
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zapiy

I want to get better with Amiga stuff now so i might be posting on here asking for help lol..

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Greyfox

Well I'm fairly adept with the Amiga emulation stuff, if you need help.

SnakeEyes

Quote from: "Gorf"
Quote from: "Bobinator"Well, if we're talking games that weren't on the Genesis/Megadrive, of which there were plenty, there you go. It's all about the exclusives. You have a game that you can't play on anything else, there's your edge when you compare these sorts of things.

One could say that about any given system though. I'm talking strictly from a technical standpoint.
I see nothing in any of these videos that are better than a Genny or an ST.


Who does that though? I mean who looks at games and says well my machine could do that game so I don't need to play on that machine. Its irrelevant if the machine can do it, as always its about the games you can and can't play, and the Amiga has many many exclusives that you can't play on the Genny or ST even if they may be capable of playing them.

Gorf

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Quote from: "Gorf"
Quote from: "Bobinator"Well, if we're talking games that weren't on the Genesis/Megadrive, of which there were plenty, there you go. It's all about the exclusives. You have a game that you can't play on anything else, there's your edge when you compare these sorts of things.

One could say that about any given system though. I'm talking strictly from a technical standpoint.
I see nothing in any of these videos that are better than a Genny or an ST.


Who does that though? I mean who looks at games and says well my machine could do that game so I don't need to play on that machine. Its irrelevant if the machine can do it, as always its about the games you can and can't play, and the Amiga has many many exclusives that you can't play on the Genny or ST even if they may be capable of playing them.

I do and so do many of us programmer types...clearly you are correct in that the layman wont necessarily care but I'm simply looking at this from a tech point of view.


The other point I am making is that the Genny was half the price of the 600 at the time and I see no reason why a few exclusive games would bring down the house of cards for the Genny.

AmigaJay

It worked both ways imo, theres games on both formats that could and couldnt be done on each format, but its easy to look back and say oh the megadrive and snes had most of the best Amiga games, yes that may be true now, but the fact was they were on the Amiga first and then converted a year or so later, the big draw for me about the Amiga was the original and exclusive games it did have, if none got converted the exclusive list would be massive.
And the megadrive was half the price sure, but the amiga was a computer it could do a heck of alot more for your money. (And the games were half the price)
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SnakeEyes

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Quote from: "Gorf"
Quote from: "Bobinator"Well, if we're talking games that weren't on the Genesis/Megadrive, of which there were plenty, there you go. It's all about the exclusives. You have a game that you can't play on anything else, there's your edge when you compare these sorts of things.

One could say that about any given system though. I'm talking strictly from a technical standpoint.
I see nothing in any of these videos that are better than a Genny or an ST.


Who does that though? I mean who looks at games and says well my machine could do that game so I don't need to play on that machine. Its irrelevant if the machine can do it, as always its about the games you can and can't play, and the Amiga has many many exclusives that you can't play on the Genny or ST even if they may be capable of playing them.

I do and so do many of us programmer types...clearly you are correct in that the layman wont necessarily care but I'm simply looking at this from a tech point of view.


The other point I am making is that the Genny was half the price of the 600 at the time and I see no reason why a few exclusive games would bring down the house of cards for the Genny.

Who is talking about bringing the house of cards down. My point was that depending on what type of games you wanted there was plenty of reasons for choosing one or the other.

you just could not get Championship manager on other formats at the time. You have to understand how big a deal that was at the time for some people . whether other machines could do the game or not did not matter as you really needed an amiga to play it.

I loved the consoles and much preffered the Megadrive and Snes over the Amiga, but the fact was I had to go and get an Amiga simply because A } the consoles could not handle some of the amiga games, and B } A lot of big hitters on the Amiga just were not available on the consoles.

Gorf

I fully understand your viewpoint but it does not change the fact that a computer for many times more money
was matched or even outclassed by a console.....which is all I am saying for a computer with the supposed capabilities of the Amiga, I hardly see the justification for the cost of the machine that if I remember correctly did not even come with a hard drive. Yes it had games no one else had but so did the Genny and the ST.