Fact Behind The Fiction

[Rogue Trooper]

Did'nt take any of that personally DC, i find the 'talk' the hardware corps come out with very interesting and a source of much healthy debate.

Sony have indeed had a head start on MS in the bullshit and lies department, a situation i now find very curius as Phill Harrison now working for MS, lets see where he takes the ball this time, already started sprouting on about MS and 'The Cloud' being the future.
Given MS approach this gen of' We don't need Blu ray, future is in digital' i'll be watching keenly what optical format the next gen Xbox uses and also if this time, it really IS an end to jaggies lol.

Also wondering what approach MS will take with regards to showing wip Xbox next games, prior to 360 launch, MS were very honest in showing auctual, early in-game footage running on 360 dev.kit hardware and suffered for it, as at that stage, lot of it looked like spruced up Xbox games, where as Sony showed that 'concept' footage for Killzone........


Since then, MS seems to have gotten caught up in this approach, we've seen Milo+Kate, Star Wars Kinect, all stage managed etc.

Plus as an Xbox owner, that fake 9, minute Halo 2 demo.will stay with me (Looked far better gameplay wise than final game) as will the advertising campain-ALL about the battle for Earth etc, yet spent so little time Earthside it was unreal.


Also Brute Force was a crushing dissapointment, yet MS kept the hype train running, ohh we got Bungie involved, polishing it up, etc.

But as a 360 owner, personally feel the biggest damage they did, was inital reluctance to admit there WAS a critical design flaw with the 360 over heating-Classing it as 'The 12 Angry Men On The Internet' or blaming it on people plugging the console into surge protecting extension power cords, when they new the cooling system/air flow issue on 360 was at fault, was a move as bad as anything Sony has done.

Was really surprised here as during the Xbox days, MS very quick to send out new power leads for ALL Xboxes after 1 caught fire.


Sonys customer service however, speaking from personal exp.here, as Playstation owner=Fantastic, very good to deal with when my launch model PS1 plastic lens holder warped, brand new unit sent out, no fuss, just delt with.

PS2's i've owned, i've never had any issues with so cannot comment.

PS3 issues though, be they hardware faults or something as simple as:PSN won't accept my card (very early days) or why won't it connect to my new hub?

Rude, arrogant, unhelpful. not interested, flippant etc.


I would have thought the failure of Vita would have been a wake up call, as initally would the rough start for the PS3, but no...they still have heads up own backsides.

[Rogue Trooper]

Fiction:EDGE magazine reviewer unhappy with PC Doom as you cannot interact with monsters.

Fact:True.Review ends off with: '.....If only you could talk to these creatures, then perhaps you could try and make friends with them, form alliances....now that would be interesting'.

Score:7/10.


This from the very magazine that totally miss-understood Jaguar AVP mind (4/10), GTA 3 PS2 (6/10) though they claimed it was a mistake and Gunstar Heroes on MD (6/10)-though they admit review was far too harsh.

And..the publication that HAD to come clean about Airbrushing DOA 3 XBOX Screenshots (no MS bullshit eh DC UK? LOL)....

[Bobinator]

Fiction:EDGE magazine reviewer unhappy with PC Doom as you cannot interact with monsters.

Fact:True.Review ends off with: '.....If only you could talk to these creatures, then perhaps you could try and make friends with them, form alliances....now that would be interesting'.

I'm sorry, but this is still the most retarded thing I've ever heard. I mean, in some other game, in some other genre, that'd be great. But at no point was anything ever said about being able to do anything like this in Doom (even at the point in development where there was much more of a plot), so what in the frick were they expecting?

[Rogue Trooper]

Fiction:EDGE magazine reviewer unhappy with PC Doom as you cannot interact with monsters.

Fact:True.Review ends off with: '.....If only you could talk to these creatures, then perhaps you could try and make friends with them, form alliances....now that would be interesting'.

I'm sorry, but this is still the most retarded thing I've ever heard. I mean, in some other game, in some other genre, that'd be great. But at no point was anything ever said about being able to do anything like this in Doom (even at the point in development where there was much more of a plot), so what in the frick were they expecting?

You not familar with EDGE? a magazine so up it's own arse, it'd need invasive surgery to get that sorted, a magazine that describes itself as 'The Industry Bible' (what this basically means is lot of developers/publishers place recruitment ads in it) a magazine so arrogant it's like the old British Empire days in print.

It's practice of not naming reviewers is classic, 1 issue alone HOTD:Overkill (Wii) praised for it's swearing and the like, few pages along, Killzone 3, slamned for it's swearing and the like.

Condemend 2-Condemend at review for dubious morals, GTA series, praised for it's freedom to kill.(subnote:Rockstar supply an awful lot of paid for cover art, ex-Edge member claims that gets them min 9/10 review score for GTA games, have to say, review text so often reads lot lower than score given....).

Pandemic's The Saboteur, slamned for girls with their tits out in a Paris gentlemans club, no such concern over birds with goods out in Max Payne 3.

AVP on Jaguar, 4/10 one of main faults they had, NO IN GAME MUSIC-yeah never mind Rebellion took samples from film, created a superb atmosphere, what we need is some drum 'n' bass raging on.....

Edge's mission statement was they'd NEVER be swayed over by graphics, cue few issues later:

Graphics To Die For...Rise Of The Robots, front cover, huge making of.

Other clangers...XBOX was dying (this before it had things like Far Cry, HL2 etc which PS2 could'nt handle).

Sad thing is, when they DO get it right, the articles and making of's ARE superb (AVP Jaguar and Tempest 2000 Jaguar to name but 2).

[Rogue Trooper]

Fiction:

Team 17 amazed everyone by annoucing the ZX Spectrum version of Worms:Armageddon was well underway, they not only proved an early screenshot, but went onto say:

'...The Speccy version of Worms:armageddon has allowed us to do some really pretty 16-colour graphics and 1-channel sound.It may come as a surprise to some that we've developed for the spectrum, but it's only cost us £150-odd to do.'

The Speccy version promised: No poncy FMV and a 7 min.loading time.

The Fact:It was all a joke Team 17 had created to fly in the face of all the then, Next-Generation hype surrounding the Dreamcast+PS2.

[TL]

I have never heard that story before!!!

Here is another great one:

FICTION: The Nintendo 64 was the first console to have an analogue controller.

FACT: No it wasn't, not even close. As well as the Vectrex and Atari 5200 the Interton 4000 (and clones) had an analogue joystick back in 1978. Even if you want to argue that it had the first analogue thumbstick for 3D games the Vectrex still has it beat by well over 10 years.

[Rogue Trooper]

I have never heard that story before!!!

Here is another great one:

FICTION: The Nintendo 64 was the first console to have an analogue controller.

FACT: No it wasn't, not even close. As well as the Vectrex and Atari 5200 the Interton 4000 (and clones) had an analogue joystick back in 1978. Even if you want to argue that it had the first analogue thumbstick for 3D games the Vectrex still has it beat by well over 10 years.

Glad you liked it mate.

[DreamcastRIP]

Fiction:EDGE magazine reviewer unhappy with PC Doom as you cannot interact with monsters.

Fact:True.Review ends off with: '.....If only you could talk to these creatures, then perhaps you could try and make friends with them, form alliances....now that would be interesting'.

Score:7/10.


This from the very magazine that totally miss-understood Jaguar AVP mind (4/10), GTA 3 PS2 (6/10) though they claimed it was a mistake and Gunstar Heroes on MD (6/10)-though they admit review was far too harsh.

I knew there was good reason I don't buy EDGE magazine. Muppets!

And..the publication that HAD to come clean about Airbrushing DOA 3 XBOX Screenshots (no MS bullshit eh DC UK? LOL)....

I'll laugh with you there! Weird that they gave that of all games the 'digital botox' screenshot treatment when the game had some excellent graphics anyway. If memory serves, that game was one of the few Xbox-exclusives Microsoft signed from Japanese videogame publishers so maybe they were desperate to make the game a success given how poorly the console was selling in Japan.

[Rogue Trooper]

Fiction:EDGE magazine reviewer unhappy with PC Doom as you cannot interact with monsters.

Fact:True.Review ends off with: '.....If only you could talk to these creatures, then perhaps you could try and make friends with them, form alliances....now that would be interesting'.

Score:7/10.


This from the very magazine that totally miss-understood Jaguar AVP mind (4/10), GTA 3 PS2 (6/10) though they claimed it was a mistake and Gunstar Heroes on MD (6/10)-though they admit review was far too harsh.

I knew there was good reason I don't buy EDGE magazine. Muppets!

And..the publication that HAD to come clean about Airbrushing DOA 3 XBOX Screenshots (no MS bullshit eh DC UK? LOL)....

I'll laugh with you there! Weird that they gave that of all games the 'digital botox' screenshot treatment when the game had some excellent graphics anyway. If memory serves, that game was one of the few Xbox-exclusives Microsoft signed from Japanese videogame publishers so maybe they were desperate to make the game a success given how poorly the console was selling in Japan.

Yeah i had the game and it looked fantastic, no need to tart up the screenshots, but then there's been a lot of screen shot trickery pulled off by magazines before, worst offender Zzap 64 with C64 Operation Thunderbolt-entire review done on the unfinished version, which looked superb.Zzap gave it a 'Sizzler' award

Game was rewritten from scratch in a hurry as original coder left and looked awful.

Mind you Zzap had found themselves in hot water long time before that, Bobby Bearing on tape, got good score for sound, yet production version had NO sound, Zzap going on claims from publisher tape version would have the sound n music disk version had.

[Rogue Trooper]

Fiction:Sega originally planned for the Saturn to be released in 2 forms.1 Cart.based, the other CD based.

Fact:

True.Saturn was code name for the CD based model, Jupiter for the Catridge Only model. Compatibility between Saturn+Jupiter was going to be achived by means of a plug in CD-Rom drive, which had extra Ram.

Sega however anticipated that it'd have an uphill struggle trying to sell cut down cart.based versions of Saturn games to Jupiter owners, espically as they'd cost more than the CD games on Saturn and thus Jupiter was scrapped.

The 32X started out with code name 'The Mars Project'.

[Rogue Trooper]

Anyone know truth behind these?

1)Sony had to pay Yamaha an undisclosed sum of money, to buy the name 'Playstation'.

2)In order to get a 'teen' rating in the states, Um Jammer Lammy had to be 'censored' (In the Jap original, Lammy dies after slipping on a banan, wakes up in hell, has to play her guitar for her soul to be re-united with her body) US version had the action relocated to a remote island instead.

[Rogue Trooper]

Fiction: key members of RARE leave to form Sony funded Studio (during N64/PS1 days).

Fact:Very true, 1 game designer, 3 software engineers and 2 artists (who'd worked on:K.I 1+2, DKC 1+2, DK:Land and Goldeneye) left to form 'Eighth Wonder'.Sony committed to publishing 1st 3 games, got 1st refusal on next 3 after that.

Internal issues within the studio meant only 1 game ever came close to seeing a release, 'Popcorn' aka 'Short Fuses'-a 3D Bomberman affair, but with puzzle and exploaration elements'.

Game was said to run at 30 FPS in a High Res PS1 mode of 512X240, with nice lighting.

[TL]

FICTION: The Atari 7800 was only brought out by Atari because of the success of the NES. Atari had previously shelved the console because Jack Tramiel had famously said that "Atari are a computer company now" when he was shown the console and threw it across the room.

FACT: All wrong, Jack never said any such thing. The 7800 was only delayed because it was not part of the deal when Jack bought Atari. He argued it should have been but Warner still hadn't paid the creators GCC for their  work on the machine. The legal wrangles over the console were what caused the big delay, Jack eventually ended up paying GCC himself. The original 7800 test market in 1984 had gone incredibly well with the system selling out quickly and got a far better response than the NES (in test market at the same time) from both the press and consumers.

[TrekMD]

Wait, isn't the famous mis-quote that Tramiel said "Atari is a computer company now" rather than a video game company?

[TL]

Wait, isn't the famous mis-quote that Tramiel said "Atari is a computer company now" rather than a video game company?

Whoops, fixed!