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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1005 on: November 29, 2019, 02:11:10 AM »
I just watched this video comparing NBA Jam between various consoles, including the Jaguar.  This is another title that was considered good on the Jaguar, even it it wasn't an exclusive title.

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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1006 on: November 29, 2019, 05:37:02 AM »
Some of them:
 
- Fight for Life
- Cybermorph
- Iron Soldier
- AirCars
- Ultra Vortek
- Hover Strike
- Hyper Force
- Kasumi Ninja
- Missile Command 3D
- Defender 2000
- SuperCross 3D
- Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy

And my favorite of the bunch, wait for it... CLUB DRIVE ;D Are you kidding me ;D

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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1007 on: November 29, 2019, 14:03:39 PM »
Ah, I can see why you feel the way you feel about it.  You didn't touch any of the better title, pretty much. 
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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1008 on: November 29, 2019, 21:58:45 PM »
Some of them:
 
- Fight for Life
- Cybermorph
- Iron Soldier
- AirCars
- Ultra Vortek
- Hover Strike
- Hyper Force
- Kasumi Ninja
- Missile Command 3D
- Defender 2000
- SuperCross 3D
- Trevor McFur in the Crescent Galaxy

And my favorite of the bunch, wait for it... CLUB DRIVE ;D Are you kidding me ;D


Some of those are pretty bad I will agree, but Cybermorph, Defender 2000, and Club Drive are some of my favourites on the system. Iron Soldier and Ultra Vortek are also very good. Most people would probably agree with you that Club Drive is terrible but I have a soft spot for it. :P

Also like Trek said, you don't have most of the really good games. AVP, Tempest 2000, Power Drive Rally, Doom, Wolfenstein, Breakout 2000, and Zero 5 are all great games. That's not all of them either. You should try some of the better games before giving up on the whole system.

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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1009 on: December 02, 2019, 05:20:10 AM »
Don't get me wrong, I played ALL of them, the whole set, I was just listing the very bad ones. Others are Ok to good, although nothing really outstanding.

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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1010 on: December 03, 2019, 10:21:36 AM »
Jeff Minter always said he was disgusted with what he was forced to do with Defender 2000.

His direct remake of the game and the plus mode on the D2K cart look great and what he wanted to do was blocked by management because he was using similar sized sprites. He was forced to make things bigger which really hurt the playability of the game.

I can't say I have ever played it but looking at it the main ship is far too big for what is going on - esp with the speed it can move at. I watched a video of a guy who beat the game and he says he looks at the radar scope the whole time because its the only way he could react in time - leaving the main game display redundant. What a waste.

What a missed opportunity that era was. Management were even sniffy about T2K at the time because it didn't fit in with what they were expecting.

Imagine what Minter and others could have gone on to do with the Atari (and Williams?) IP - remakes of Robotron, Super Breakout, Missile Command, Asteroids, Black Widow, Xybots, Gravitar et al - all with a new look and enhanced gameplay.


Robotron 64 proved there was a market for it. It wasn't a blockbuster but it did OK.

The proposed new Atari console , if it does exist, could have been a new platform for this style of game.  Not retro games - but retro/classic style games - non timesink "won and done" games.

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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1011 on: December 03, 2019, 12:12:29 PM »
Yes, Atari went from one bad decision to another.  It is my understanding that the dev kit for the Jaguar also wasn't quite finished, which contributed to the difficulties in game development.  The system is clearly capable of more but it was not really taken advantage of.  A lot of lost potential. As for Defender 2K, have you seen Protector?  A better implementation of an updated version of Defender on the system.
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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1012 on: December 03, 2019, 16:06:04 PM »
Jaguar is one of the few consoles I don't own and have never owned. It's becoming an expensive thing to buy into now so I'd find it hard to justify spending on given the library which largely isn't to my tastes. I also have Saturn T2K so that itch is scratched.

However if an opportunity came up that would let me experience it at 60Hz with RGB and be able to get the likes of T2K and Raiden then I would probably take it.

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Re: The Atari Jaguar Thread
« Reply #1013 on: December 04, 2019, 22:25:53 PM »
I understand the complaints but I still say Defender 2000 is a great game. Sure you have to keep one eye on the radar the whole time but once you get the hang of it it's a lot of fun. Just have to get in the zone 8)

 

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