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Title: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on November 28, 2018, 19:57:46 PM
Normally I post this in the staff area but I think the feedback from all the users in this regard is best.

Forums I feel need to constanly revolve, I think we may need to streamline the amount of boards, merge a load of them and hope this entices more to post.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: TrekMD on November 28, 2018, 23:31:04 PM
You have to wonder if that is what is keeping folks from posting.  Is the number of boards too much?  Or is it something else?
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on November 29, 2018, 08:41:57 AM
Not sure, eitherway I do now think streamlining is the best option but I would like some feedback.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Shadowrunner on November 29, 2018, 17:14:01 PM
There are a lot of boards, but after taking a quick look I'm really not sure how you could change it. I suppose you could combine all the retro console and computer sections into just one for each and remove all the individual topics.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: AmigaJay on November 30, 2018, 08:44:02 AM
Not sure cutting down on threads will help (maybe it will who knows) personally i visit and if i see something i can contribute to i will, again from my point of view most of the regulars are Atari fans, so unless its the Lynx, i havent owned any of their other machines, and if its Amiga talk i tend to just keep to EAB.

Its not just this retro forum that has talk drop, all forums in general have, i used to post loads in the Retro Gamer forum, but its been quiet for the last couple of years and only mostly the dweebs hang on that people got annoyed with and left! And just a sign of the times that more groups have opened on FB too.

Have you thought about opening a FB group? Might seem sacralege to some, but maybe something like what Indie Retro News do, have a group but post links from the main site into the group, so the site remains but the chat side gets moved?

Just an idea, personally i’ve come off all SM sites now, but i’m one of the dying breed, but i dont care, i would rather die happy and ignorant!
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 01, 2018, 00:05:39 AM
I am hearing ya mate, I think your right, we have groups on facebook also, I am just not the type to sit on there either, I guess I am old fashioned that way..
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: DeadVoivod on December 01, 2018, 06:33:15 AM
Like me, I’m not on FB, have never been and probably will never be.

The thing what I do, basically with any forum, just click on the unread messages, I don’t even know how many subcategories there are, although I know there are quite many. Perhaps overwhelming.

Btw, makes me ask one question. After submitting my post in the forum, it takes me back to forum category you are posting in. I find that quite annoying, as I’m always reading my post after I submit it, and this way, I always have to go to that thread again, scroll down, etc. can you not change that? So that after submitting my post, it’ll stay in that thread which I posted in instead of leaving.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 01, 2018, 11:22:33 AM
Let me see if thats possible fella.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 01, 2018, 11:28:24 AM
Test as made a change.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Cryptic33 on December 01, 2018, 13:08:17 PM
Hi,

I won’t say too much here but I was a bit shocked by the email. By that, I mean it saddened me to hear about the deterioration of health. I started chemo on the 19th of November 2018, yeah two weeks ago and it ain’t nice. I’ll leave that subject there, just saying sorry about the news.

Ok, let’s move on. I see a number of posts above with interesting suggestions regarding the future of the forum. I can only give a personal view which is, for some time I was a bit overwhelmed by the volume of topics and number of boards. That said, most forums are the same. Would I streamline? On balance, no, because forums are the way they are. I have never classed myself as a “gamer” but an enthusiast. I have an interest in several areas but obviously, I am much more interested in Jaguar topics on the whole.

So, what does this mean going forward. I think that I and many others have come to view RVG as an invaluable resource that I can visit as and when I want to read more about something I probably saw on SM and feel reassured that the staff and members here are exceptional in their knowledge. One thing you can’t get away from is human nature. SM has boomed because most people are inherently lazy, I include myself in this. Thus, if we can get almost instantaneous answers to questions with little effort, then that is the option we choose. Let’s face it, how many times have you seen a question posted which we know could have been answered more quickly via a google search or wiki than posting on a forum.

I believe, you have some incredible archival topics, interviews etc, that make this site worth preserving in some form. I looked recently, via a google search, at the well known AA forum for a little info on pro controllers. Sure enough, google did it’s job. I did not post on the forum as I didn’t want to get involved in a conversation, just a couple of points I wanted clarified. So, you see a lot of people will blatantly use forums to glean information. It is for that very reason that some topics are accessible only to members. Which magazine do the same thing. Maybe this is the inevitable future that RVG will become a resource library of sorts, I don’t know.

Again, it is also clear from the email that some members are loyal to this site and you simply can’t put a price on that. I have always been grateful for the support and wonderful work that is published here. This is why I have problem supporting this site with a contribution each year (you’d have to remind me though) to help keep it going. Your mass mails remind me that I haven’t been here in a while and prompt me to make an effort and will do what I can.

Good luck with whatever decisions you make, you have my full support.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Greyfox on December 01, 2018, 13:25:59 PM
Okay, thought id jump in here too, been speaking Lorfarus on messages about the conferlidity of the forum with all its sections on the forum which is simply choking the ease ability of the site.


So outlining a list of points for consideration here. Rough draft so to speak.

First there is too many sections with subcategories that people will not post in, these section should now be unified into one, so Retro gaming consoles / one thread per machine (Megadrive) / snes and so on as well with home computers, no more sections for each machine, have them as posts. Archive the rest

Dump threads more than 12 months old from the site or created an archived section for them, so that recent and present content is found in the other section of the forum.

Simply just breaking down the sections is what we feel the main problem here. I also think that front page need what's been post recently, maybe it's there already? I don't know?

I just that 30 plus sections need to be now about 15, but we need to work out what gets archived or stays put.

Hope this helps in the decision for the new push on the forum.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: HomerRamone2084 on December 01, 2018, 14:41:40 PM
I keep promising myself to visit more but then forget  :-[

I'll put a better effort in - every little helps right ?

There are indeed a lot of topics and subtopics - but is this is the really reason for lack of activity though.
Looking down the list all subsections have activity this year. But possibly this is a little misleading.
Looking deeper again in retro console for example at a glance all subtopics have activity here too.
However a closer look at the last post in each shows they are not as busy as it seems.
Using the last post and counting those this in 2018 we see:
Atari - lots.. a page full in fact !
Coleco 4 topics.
Mattel 3 topics
NEC 2 topics
Nintendo 9 topics
Sega 14 topics
SNK 2 topics
Xbox 6 topics
Other 8 topics

Could look in the other areas and maybe trim them - but its hard to say wether or not this will promote activity.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: TrekMD on December 01, 2018, 16:23:23 PM
Cryptic, I know chemo is tough but you'll pull through.  Hopefully, it does the job and you'll be OK after it.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 01, 2018, 20:49:36 PM
Thanks for posting you lot, yeah life has been hard but we keep ticking, just kinda finding it difficult knowning the forum was fading.. action is needed, lets see what we can do.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Spacedeck on December 02, 2018, 00:27:05 AM
As others have pointed out, the forum is cluttered and needs looking at.  I like the archiving old threads idea if they haven't had a response in 12 months, if someone posts in the thread while archived, move it back over to the main section.

Myself, I do visit the place, albeit not always logged in.  Plus I don't play retro games all that often at the moment, so that plays a part in why I have nothing useful to add to any threads.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 02, 2018, 00:32:24 AM
I have made lots of changes, I know some will be liked and others not so much.

Would appreciate some feedback on what we have now, do you like the descriptions, the names of the boards and the order?

Gone from 42 boards to 17.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Saturn on December 02, 2018, 00:34:38 AM
Hi, no fb here or other online mainstream social sites, just not enough hours in the day. Hoping to be back more soon but busiest time of year for me through like, May. Not an excuse but still can't squeeze in enough time for everything.
Will try to be here. I miss it all.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Shadowrunner on December 02, 2018, 00:52:29 AM
I like the changes. :)
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 02, 2018, 00:58:51 AM
Thanks mate, feels a bit like I just went into a barbers will a rock n roll hair style and just came out with a skin head lol.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Shadowrunner on December 02, 2018, 01:00:59 AM
Lol It's different but nice and simple.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 02, 2018, 01:15:32 AM
Exactly what I was hoping for, not sure it will increase activity but you never know.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Greyfox on December 02, 2018, 01:19:17 AM
Digging the easiness of it now, it was a little frustrating navigating through reams of post to lock in, this is now been cut in half, thanks for the efforts on this @zapiy 
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 02, 2018, 01:25:24 AM
No worries bud, I’m actually certain it never really worked when we did it like that. Simple is best even if it does not promote activity. 
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: TrekMD on December 02, 2018, 03:55:50 AM
Well, it is far simpler.  Hopefully it helps. 
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 02, 2018, 10:31:54 AM
One can hope fella.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Carlos on December 02, 2018, 16:48:10 PM
nice work guys.

I'm back its been a while eh?
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: TrekMD on December 02, 2018, 18:22:05 PM
Good to see you back!
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 03, 2018, 11:04:51 AM
Hey Carlos, thanks for coming back bud, hope the changes work. I am finding I am posting more myself as I don't need to over think where to post.  Strange. lol
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: Carlos on December 03, 2018, 20:00:43 PM
its all nice and clean.
You cannot be all things to all people, so crack on.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: DeadVoivod on December 04, 2018, 06:07:28 AM
Test as made a change.

Fixed.

Great, thanks!!
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: ArcadeAction on December 04, 2018, 16:20:10 PM
Wishing good health to all this time of year.

I much prefer a traditional website forum setup instead of how Facebook works. Social media is focused on the "here and now", and old posts (even day old ones) on Facebook are sort of lost forever to me as it doesn't really occur to me to search a FB page for past posts.

I like the categories here and the choices that have been made to serve the discussion.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: davyk on December 08, 2018, 14:14:33 PM
Creating a thread in the forums for each article and providing a link from the article might get people to comment as well.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: zapiy on December 08, 2018, 22:17:43 PM
Thats my next plan mate, certainly for the main articles and interviews, not the reviews thou as that would be a huge undertaking.
Title: Re: Forum Changes
Post by: davyk on December 09, 2018, 12:51:27 PM
That makes sense.

My Asteroids article got over 600 views for example  - I'd imagine even 5-10% might have posted if there had been a link to a discussion thread.  Hard to say of course.
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