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Title: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Carlos on July 03, 2015, 18:19:50 PM
Prototype SNES PlayStation Found In The Wild, Unicorn And Big Foot Expected Next (http://http)

(http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/prototype_snes_playstation_found_in_the_wild_unicorn_and_big_foot_expected_next/attachment/0/630x.jpg)

(http://images.nintendolife.com/news/2015/07/prototype_snes_playstation_found_in_the_wild_unicorn_and_big_foot_expected_next/attachment/1/630x.jpg)

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Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on July 03, 2015, 18:45:38 PM
I saw this earlier!  This is really cool to see.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: Shadowrunner on July 03, 2015, 19:04:35 PM
Yes, this has been flooding my Twitter feed all day! Pretty cool, hopefully he can find a compatible power adapter and test it out.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 03, 2015, 20:58:34 PM
Yeah amazing find, btw its a PlayStation not a snes! Of course it can play snes games, but its Sony console that would have also played titles not released on the snes cd drive, multimedia stuff ala cdtv being mooted.

Cant wait to see it boot if or when he gets it going and anything loads!
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on July 03, 2015, 21:11:00 PM
So do any CD games actually exist? And is there any hardware beyond the CD drive added like extra RAM or custom Sony chips?
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: JoeMusashi on July 03, 2015, 21:45:43 PM
Wow! Quality! So this is the Playstation prototype right?

I love it when stuff like this appears. This is quite an icon of modern history and has a great story attached to it.
I see its turned that lovely shade of shitty brown too...
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 03, 2015, 22:29:32 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
So do any CD games actually exist? And is there any hardware beyond the CD drive added like extra RAM or custom Sony chips?
Well some devs have stated games were quite far in production i.e ports 7th Guest etc of course if any data is still around is another question, this guy said a cartridge and cd came with it, so until he gets it going who knows whats on them.

Im not 100% on the seperate Sony PlayStation combo specs, but if its the same as the Sony snes cd drive it wouldnt have had extra chips, the latter Philips deal would have included a 32-bit risc cpu and more ram.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: Vadergb on July 04, 2015, 00:27:13 AM
Looks legit, I want to see if it powers up. Strange that no dev units are floating around from this time too, but the end of the Sony/Nintendo deal would of probably assigned most the the development to the bin.

I expect it will be on eBay soon, It's best destination would be a gaming museum.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: Carlos on July 04, 2015, 08:52:21 AM
I am a little suspicious of this TBH, I like it don't get me wrong, I like it- but with the techniques that hobby bodgers can adopt with 3D printing etc I am left a little unconvinced.  :39:
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: Carlos on July 04, 2015, 08:53:34 AM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Yeah amazing find, btw its a PlayStation not a snes!

changed the title Jay  8)
Title: Re: Prototype Sony SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on July 04, 2015, 14:33:20 PM
Quote from: "Retrotext"
I am a little suspicious of this TBH, I like it don't get me wrong, I like it- but with the techniques that hobby bodgers can adopt with 3D printing etc I am left a little unconvinced.  :39:

Who knows?  I guess, time will tell.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on July 04, 2015, 15:34:31 PM
There's a video now...

[align=center:2b2egl06]http://youtu.be/dCV6RusogAk[/align:2b2egl06]

Source:  Retro Gaming Mag (http://http)
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Carlos on July 06, 2015, 17:51:40 PM
some interesting comments here...
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1 ... prototype/ (http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2015/07/04/rare_sony_nintendo_playstation_snes_prototype/)
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on July 06, 2015, 18:59:19 PM
I wonder how long it will take to find out if it's real or fake.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: zapiy on July 06, 2015, 23:33:36 PM
It looks flipping awesome either way.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Ben on July 07, 2015, 02:29:19 AM
If it is legitimate, I think I get why Nintendo bailed on this project. Where is the name, Nintendo, anywhere in prominent view on this thing?!  It makes it look like Sony were just muscling them out of the console business.  It kind of reminds me of that scene in the Woody Allen movie, Broadway Danny Rose, when his client tells him he has to make a change of management.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 07, 2015, 09:35:43 AM
Quote from: "Ben"
If it is legitimate, I think I get why Nintendo bailed on this project. Where is the name, Nintendo, anywhere in prominent view on this thing?!  It makes it look like Sony were just muscling them out of the console business.  It kind of reminds me of that scene in the Woody Allen movie, Broadway Danny Rose, when his client tells him he has to make a change of management.
Nintendo bailed out of the contract because Sony wanted a higher share of all Snes CD games, Nintendo wanted all the rights to cartridge games and CD games, in the contract Sony outdid what Nintendo thought they were signing. (Nintendo later went with Philips, which again turned into nothing).
This prototype is the Sony machine out of the deal, that could also play snes games, and would have played other multimedia titles that werent heading to the snes cd drive for the snes, its not a Nintendo machine, which is i think why some people are getting confused in all this!
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on July 10, 2015, 13:22:12 PM
Just saw this at Retro Gaming Mag's site:  Sony President Releases Comment on Recent Retro Discovery (http://http).
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 10, 2015, 13:54:07 PM
Yeah read his comment the other day, i don't know the douchebag who wrote the article you linked doesn't believe it because its says Playstation all in one word on it, so? The original photo's from 22-23 years ago were the same, its not been photo shopped and our memories erased, jeez these guys!
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on July 13, 2015, 01:49:10 AM
Gemma has done an interview of the owner of this unit.  Here is the video with the interview done via Skype.  Here's a link to her article on the subject:  The elusive SNES-CD surfaces to shock gamers across the world (http://http)

[align=center:23ol1w1z]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXO0Ir9wUps&list=TL1R5XG9_mc_0[/align:23ol1w1z]
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Papa on July 14, 2015, 00:22:27 AM
I read somewhere that Final Fantasy VII was going to be one of the first games for the system.  It looks and feels to me like what a Super Nintendo with those duel 32-bit RISC chips would crank out.  I think that what Nintendo did later in the N64 was truer to the nature of gaming and supporting quality games.  In my opinion Sony has always been about mass production of media and having do-all machines.  Nintendo as a company with quality minded software would have taken a back seat to the those newfangled compact disk thingies that people were going berserk about.  Then Sony brings out the Playstation , which you got if you wanted a gaming rig and a CD player (and a VCD player in the eastern world, with the VCD module) in one.  Next was the PS2 which was your first DVD player...and it played games, sure.  And the PS3 for Blue Ray (because we all knew that HD-DVD was never going to make it) aaaaand a few pretty nice games.  Now you get the PS4 for it's DLC connection (which is cheaper than a PC and more powerful than a smart phone or Android).  Nintendo would have been going against their own creed as well as being the new dust on the shelf next to everyone's CD collection.  Cartridges are better, last longer, are solid state and the Nintendo 64 is a blast to play to this day!  If I'm going to play a PS1 game it's going to have the resolution cranked up and be on PC with an emulator.   

I think what Nintendo did back then was for the gamers and themselves.  I think what they're doing today is pretty sad. 

It's probably a real prototype, but like the interviewer said, I would like to see it boot up.  There should be some type of info on it's voltage somewhere on the system. I really don't think it would hurt to try an SNES power supply with it, as that would have been a smart thing to use considering they already had aftermarket ones and replacement ones out everywhere.  I wouldn't want it fried either, though... 

Very interesting!  :41:
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 14, 2015, 10:17:45 AM
Quote from: "Papa"
I read somewhere that Final Fantasy VII was going to be one of the first games for the system.  It looks and feels to me like what a Super Nintendo with those duel 32-bit RISC chips would crank out.  I think that what Nintendo did later in the N64 was truer to the nature of gaming and supporting quality games.  In my opinion Sony has always been about mass production of media and having do-all machines.  Nintendo as a company with quality minded software would have taken a back seat to the those newfangled compact disk thingies that people were going berserk about.  Then Sony brings out the Playstation , which you got if you wanted a gaming rig and a CD player (and a VCD player in the eastern world, with the VCD module) in one.  Next was the PS2 which was your first DVD player...and it played games, sure.  And the PS3 for Blue Ray (because we all knew that HD-DVD was never going to make it) aaaaand a few pretty nice games.  Now you get the PS4 for it's DLC connection (which is cheaper than a PC and more powerful than a smart phone or Android).  Nintendo would have been going against their own creed as well as being the new dust on the shelf next to everyone's CD collection.  Cartridges are better, last longer, are solid state and the Nintendo 64 is a blast to play to this day!  If I'm going to play a PS1 game it's going to have the resolution cranked up and be on PC with an emulator.   

I think what Nintendo did back then was for the gamers and themselves.  I think what they're doing today is pretty sad. 

It's probably a real prototype, but like the interviewer said, I would like to see it boot up.  There should be some type of info on it's voltage somewhere on the system. I really don't think it would hurt to try an SNES power supply with it, as that would have been a smart thing to use considering they already had aftermarket ones and replacement ones out everywhere.  I wouldn't want it fried either, though... 

Very interesting!  :41:

I don't know where you read about FF7, FF6 only came out in 1994, this machine was due out in 1993...
What Nintendo did with the N64 imo was against what gamers wanted, at the time gamers wanted CD audio and cut scenes and more levels, Nintendo made more profit and had more control with production of carts, imo against what gamers and the like wanted and imo the start of the downfall of 3rd partys from Nintendo's machines ever since.

HD-DVD was actually selling better than Blu-ray until the PS3 came out, i liked it better because you could have the DVD version on the flip side, now you just get a DVD copy in the same box as the Blu-ray!

Each to their own playing PS1 games now, i prefer the original pixelated look, but the N64 is even worse playing now without HD filtering etc, so blurry and low res it hurts your eyes.

Regarding Nintendo now, sure they lack 3rd party support, but at least they are sticking to their guns and have a games console on the market, the PS3/4 , XB1 are just PC's in small cases with games installing, patches etc, awful imo.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on July 14, 2015, 10:27:50 AM
I think Sony us being given an unwarranted hard time over this from some people. Each generation of the PlayStation has being one of the top 2 consoles of its time.

Nintendo cocked up the contract with Sony, dumped them very acrimoniously and thought they could just write off whatever Sony had planned. Arrogance in itself and a lot of industry insiders where happy to see Sony arrive and offer competition.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 14, 2015, 13:01:47 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
I think Sony us being given an unwarranted hard time over this from some people. Each generation of the PlayStation has being one of the top 2 consoles of its time.

Nintendo cocked up the contract with Sony, dumped them very acrimoniously and thought they could just write off whatever Sony had planned. Arrogance in itself and a lot of industry insiders where happy to see Sony arrive and offer competition.
Don't get me wrong i loved the first Playstation, but the direction Sony has taken the PS3 and now PS4 with its PC style has ruined the console experience imo, yes the XB1 has to install too, but it was the PS3 that started console game installing as mandatory because they wanted to shove its its Blu-ray device down peoples throats, same for DVD in the PS2, this is why they have higher consoles sold than would have been without these media players.
Yes Nintendo treated Sony (and Philips) badly as well as most developers truth be told, but I'd rather have the industry it was compared to one we know have, which like it or not can mostly be attributed to Sony, which they themselves treated customers badly with the PS3 debacle, i no longer buy any 'console' where games installing or patching takes place, i like to play a game as soon as i buy it not wait an hour for it to install and download upgrades and patches!
Anyway enough of my rant going off topic slightly!
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Papa on July 15, 2015, 01:48:31 AM
Maybe I read it here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_VII)

..Where they clearly state that it was slated for an SNES release.  A game of that size and scope would be a CD game and so it would have been on the Sony disk player (had they went that route).  I believe that cartridges are far superior to CD, DVD whatever disk crap is out there.  A disk scratches too easily, needs too many moving parts to synchronize properly (the eye goes out, the fan cooling the system dies, the motor dies, etc...).  My carts all still work perfectly, whereas I'd be lucky to get a four year old DVD to not skip or stop all together.  I watch VHS, listen to cassettes and records, and program on and play Atari.  To each his own, sure, but I'm not just making crap up here.  Final Fantasy VII was to be a flagship title for the the up and coming Sony disk system on the Super Nintendo.  It was actually moved up to be on the N64 but Sony brought out the Playstation and Square sided with them.  It's also probably one of the biggest reasons the N64 has only a couple of RPGs.  I play games on a CRT.  They last for decades and never need backlights replaced ( We don't mind recapping things when necessary, sure).  I think modern screens look like crap, last for far too short a time, and use too much electricity.  Getting a modern screen to display black properly or not blur when scrolling horizontally is a chore in itself. 

Of course I'm currently playing Final Fantasy VII on a Voodoo 3500 PC with Sound Blaster Live.   I skipped over the PS version back in the day in favor of the PC one, as I did with many games that came out for both.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 15, 2015, 13:50:52 PM
Well no mention of FF7 on SNES CD on that link, but as you stated not one of the first games on the system as FF7 wasn't even started until 1994...the SNES CD project was canned in late 1993 (PSX came out late 1994) so again FF7 wouldn't have even been an option for the SNES CD.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on July 16, 2015, 09:36:46 AM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"

Don't get me wrong i loved the first Playstation, but the direction Sony has taken the PS3 and now PS4 with its PC style has ruined the console experience imo, yes the XB1 has to install too, but it was the PS3 that started console game installing as mandatory because they wanted to shove its its Blu-ray device down peoples throats, same for DVD in the PS2, this is why they have higher consoles sold than would have been without these media players.
Yes Nintendo treated Sony (and Philips) badly as well as most developers truth be told, but I'd rather have the industry it was compared to one we know have, which like it or not can mostly be attributed to Sony, which they themselves treated customers badly with the PS3 debacle, i no longer buy any 'console' where games installing or patching takes place, i like to play a game as soon as i buy it not wait an hour for it to install and download upgrades and patches!
Anyway enough of my rant going off topic slightly!

Ah not that off topic (-; Installing games for me because of patches or upgrades is a godsend, the stuff that can get fixed is invaluable but where the practice falls down is when games are obviously released unfinished and no amount of patching can fix that - Halo Master Chief Collection anyone? Also computer gamers have been waiting for games to load or install for years (tape drives anyone?) so are console gamers just too impatient lol   :33:

My CD collection dates back to the mid 90's so 20 years - works fine. DVD the early 00's - works fine. PSOne games - fine. PS2 - fine. XBox - fine. XBox 360 - fine. XBoxOne - fine. Incidentally the other media I have on various formats from cassette, floppies, cartridge, vinyl, VHS, miniDisc, UMD..... All work fine.

My point is I think if you are lucky to get a DVD older than 4 years old to work your equipment is not good enough, or you really dont look after your discs. I have cartridges, I dont regard them as an indestructible tour de force but I look after them like I do any of my media.

You comments on televisions arn't really accurate either, my 9 year old Tosh LCD is fine - blacks and horizontal scrolling et al. The Sony Trinitron CRT I use for the older stuff also works fine.

I'm not sure what your issue is with this Sony PlayStation/SNES prototype, but you dont need to make things up if you dont like it  :113:
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on July 16, 2015, 11:18:01 AM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"

Ah not that off topic (-; Installing games for me because of patches or upgrades is a godsend, the stuff that can get fixed is invaluable but where the practice falls down is when games are obviously released unfinished and no amount of patching can fix that - Halo Master Chief Collection anyone? Also computer gamers have been waiting for games to load or install for years (tape drives anyone?) so are console gamers just too impatient lol   :21:


It may feel like a godsend to some, but in reality games are thrown out on time and patched afterwards, this is something that would never have happened years ago, sure you had the odd game with a bug, but most on the whole were completed and tested, nowadays because of the ease of patching its like 'oh we can get people to download a 3gb patch on day one no-one seems assed either way!'

And yes loading to me is different to installing and upgrading/patching, even with installs there is loading to be done so its not like it removes it completely, had it done so then it wouldn't be so a bigger issue, but because blu-ray drives are so damn slow and of course as mentioned above Sony wanted to force its new media down console owners throats for a costly 425 with the PS3 its forced devs to make mandatory installs or have really long loading times, at least the Xbox 360 didn't make you, bar a couple of releases at the end of its life cycle, now of course the XB1 is blu-ray the same fate is with Xbox owners, as i said as long as Nintendo stay true to what a games console is then i will stick with them.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on July 16, 2015, 11:54:41 AM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
It may feel like a godsend to some, but in reality games are thrown out on time and patched afterwards, this is something that would never have happened years ago, sure you had the odd game with a bug, but most on the whole were completed and tested, nowadays because of the ease of patching its like 'oh we can get people to download a 3gb patch on day one no-one seems assed either way!'

And yes loading to me is different to installing and upgrading/patching, even with installs there is loading to be done so its not like it removes it completely, had it done so then it wouldn't be so a bigger issue, but because blu-ray drives are so damn slow and of course as mentioned above Sony wanted to force its new media down console owners throats for a costly 425 with the PS3 its forced devs to make mandatory installs or have really long loading times, at least the Xbox 360 didn't make you, bar a couple of releases at the end of its life cycle, now of course the XB1 is blu-ray the same fate is with Xbox owners, as i said as long as Nintendo stay true to what a games console is then i will stick with them.

Well..... Thats more along the lines of looking at modern gaming and what that entails. I agree the lackadaisical attitude to developement many modern publishers have their attitude to 'patch to it later' is spoiling gaming but I dont let it spoil my experience - I rarely buy things new on release so I have time to assess wether the game is worth getting or not. I think the blame for that rests with the gamers as much as the publishers as most people simply accept this status quo - one person alone not buying games because of unfinished games (me!) will not change things. And I agree updates/patches are not the same as loading but its the waiting that is the same and that is what I was (trying to) compare. Far Cry 4 installed once on my XOne and thats it. If I turn my XOne off/on again mid game, the game is still running and I go straight back into it, handled well installing games is not the ballache I think some make it out to be.

The answer to all of this is of course digital delivery from source - and we know that goes back to the early 80's and the like of Atari's Gameline delivery games down your phone directly onto a cartridge (was that the first such system?). Skips the issue of media completely and puts the game on the fastest available medium to play.

Unfortunately only PC gamers are currently getting the best of that solution - Steam prices and SSD HDDs beat hands down the PS4/XOne business model and design. I'm not being fanboyish there, just pragmatic and impartial as after all I am a XOne gamer not a PC gamer.

For me the issue of what media a modern game should be on should not exist, but the attitude of all the games companies towards pricing of their digital content stops any progress on that front.

Blimey I've gone on a bit there, maybe we should flip this into a 'Where is gaming going thread' as I'm just as much interested in looking to the future as still enjoying the past.  :113:
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on November 07, 2015, 00:52:29 AM
Well, it appears this was real after all:  We turned on the Nintendo PlayStation: It's real and it works (http://http).
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Shadowrunner on November 07, 2015, 03:46:08 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Well, it appears this was real after all:  We turned on the Nintendo PlayStation: It's real and it works (http://http).

Cool, great story. Nice to know it's real.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on November 07, 2015, 08:48:04 AM
I dont know why people thought it was fake, thats todays society i suppose.

Shame there is no software to show, hopefully one day something gets leaked and they can get something working or more likely a fully working unit turns up.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on February 04, 2017, 19:13:03 PM
This is a video posted just a couple of week ago that gives an in-depth look at the story behind the creation of the Nintendo Playstation as well as the story behind the father & son team who unearthed it for the rest of the world to see.

https://youtu.be/aRail-6p--U
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on May 09, 2017, 00:25:50 AM
This is finally working!

https://youtu.be/gaIfPuziJ-0
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: onthinice on May 11, 2017, 16:24:02 PM
I learned a lot from those two videos.

Sony should market this and hire after market developers to support the system. Nintendo could release cart games again. Making a profit off of cartridges without producing the hardware.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on May 11, 2017, 23:46:07 PM
That is one nice dream! 
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: onthinice on May 12, 2017, 13:59:05 PM
 :) Who is dreaming? LOL! Maybe a little.

Watching the video seemed like these fellows were common folk. The son admitted having work done to get it running detracts from the originality. Like the snub to certain people that wanted to buy the system.

Seems the major value to this system is ownership. The two fellows are getting star treatment by just owning it. Sell it and it is all over.

If I am wrong on any of my information, sorry. It was said that development of CD games would not have been on par with the Sega CD.

My take is over time developers always get the best out of a system. Was it to late? Not sure. By 1995 some amazing games were still being made for the SNES and Megadrive/Genesis. So if this had started in 1993 and been on market by 1994 it might have still sold.

I would buy a remake if new games were being made. Look at the after market 8 and 16 bit systems. They already play SNES games. Maybe the next FC Twin or Retron will include cd or dvd technology. It would make the X SNES worth more if newly developed games could be played on it.

Sorry for the ramble. Really neat prototype but when the common game player can not enjoy it, for me at least the interest goes out the door. I do have a short attention span. ;D
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Shadowrunner on May 12, 2017, 15:09:18 PM
The thing I find the most interesting about this is just imagining how different things would be if this had been released. Without the Playstation that Sony launched on their own the Saturn wouldn't of been rushed to market and the Sega CD and 32X would have probably had a much longer life. The 3DO would have lasted a lot longer and the Jaguar would have had a much better chance. Who knows where we would be today and who would be the big players in the industry.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: onthinice on May 12, 2017, 15:22:36 PM
Agree. Maybe the 3DO M2 would have seen the light of day as an actual system
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Shadowrunner on May 12, 2017, 15:28:35 PM
Good point. As a 3DO fan I was very disappointed when the M2 was cancelled.
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: AmigaJay on May 12, 2017, 15:29:41 PM
Yes whilst the prototype (dev kit) is nice, hardware is nothing without software and this has none, plus its not like a lost bit of software that could be released decades later, even if they found  7th guest or whatever snes cd game it was, nobody could play it on real hardware.
So nice as it is, its no more than say a Panasonic M2, well actually its less than that, that actually has a few games the few owners can play!

[member=4393]Shadowrunner[/member] yeah would be interesting to wonder what if, i think Sony would have eventually got a decent machine in there, heck they were trying for years with various machines, MSX, CDi etc so if the Nintendo situation didn't cause it they would have muscled in a generation later
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on May 12, 2017, 21:25:38 PM
Yes, fascinating how one decision can shape what happens so much.  This device is another example of that and it is quite fascinating. It's cool to see it working, though!
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Shadowrunner on February 13, 2020, 16:00:38 PM
Well, it's been a few years but the owner of this prototype has decided to sell!

 Nintendo Playstation  (https://comics.ha.com/itm/video-games/nintendo/nintendo-play-station-super-nes-cd-rom-prototype-sony-and-nintendo-c-1992/a/7224-93060.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515)

It's only at $30,000 right now but I'm sure it will go a lot higher.

Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on February 13, 2020, 22:39:50 PM
I'm not surprised.  I met him and his son at PRGE 2 years ago.  I got to see this thing "live and in real color."  Right now it's "only" at $145,000!
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Shadowrunner on February 14, 2020, 15:08:56 PM
That went up fast, with the 20% buyers premium it's now at $432,000!
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on February 14, 2020, 17:42:41 PM
Dang I last saw it at $360,000!   That is absurd! 
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: Shadowrunner on February 14, 2020, 20:20:35 PM
From what I've read about this, the seller already turned down a private offer before it went to auction for over a million dollars!

The crazy thing about this is that there's no proof this is the only one left, and most likely it's not. The auction listing itself says that there were 200 of these prototypes made. I've already seen a couple industry veterans on Twitter chiming in that they have seen a few of these over the years. How long till someone else digs theirs out?
Title: Re: Prototype Sony PlayStation X SNES!
Post by: TrekMD on February 14, 2020, 20:57:00 PM
If this one sells into for an absurd price, it is likely another one will pop up soon!