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[align=center:1aub338p][size=140]The Angry Video Game Nerd now has a working Jaguar CD, prepare yourself for this . . .[/size]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?fv=fezuYstS0Q8 (//http)

[size=140]What do you all think about the Jaguar CD?[/size][/align:1aub338p]

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I'm sorry but... such fucking arseholes aren't they? its like they didn't EVEN BOTHER to try and learn the controls to battle morph and started trashing it. What would happen if I did that to Star Fox? Complaining that its going to fast and they can't work out the point of the mission, I mean I can't believe THEY are actually dumb enough to go online and commit work like that to the public, its just so amateurish and actually pathetic. I can't say anything about blue lightening or highlander but neither Battle Morph or Hover Strike are that bad and they just completely misunderstand the fact that the jaguar cd is 18 years old or more. Fucking tossers

sorry but that's really fcuked me off

Quote from: "dcultrapro"I'm sorry but... such fucking arseholes aren't they? its like they didn't EVEN BOTHER to try and learn the controls to battle morph and started trashing it. What would happen if I did that to Star Fox? Complaining that its going to fast and they can't work out the point of the mission, I mean I can't believe THEY are actually dumb enough to go online and commit work like that to the public, its just so amateurish and actually pathetic. I can't say anything about blue lightening or highlander but neither Battle Morph or Hover Strike are that bad and they just completely misunderstand the fact that the jaguar cd is 18 years old or more. Fucking tossers

sorry but that's really fcuked me off

Yep, same. I left a really annoyed comment on the video telling them it was one of the worst videos I had ever seen and it was full off nonsense. I said that if they didn't understand the games then they should have just read the instructions. I also commented that saying Star Fox is better than Battle Morph is one of the most laughable things I have ever heard and that their claim to owning every single Jaguar CD game is massively off the mark.

I did forget to tell them that they could have just pressed a button to skip the FMV on Blue Lightning, or indeed just turned it off from the options, instead of moaning about "having" to watch it. I really expected better from James, he wasn't even doing it as AVGN.

yeah it was just a rubbish unfunny scathing bitch/moan at the console almost to provoke angry responses... and that guy with him was actually REALLY annoying after a while. I mean fair enough Highlander has divided fans of the CD Drive and I can't comment on its quality as I haven't played much of it but it just looked to me like an amateurish attack on the system in general that was actually really badly researched. I might do a video sometime about the Jaguar/CD giving people the real story on it and explain how battlemorph works etc so people don't take this crap seriously. Its actually laughable that the guy posted it the way it was

here is my comment I posted on their video:

"ok so the points made AGAINST Battle Morph are: the ship doesn't control v well, the missions are unclear & have no point etc... why the fuck can't people learn to play a game for a few minutes before bad mouthing it? Its like if I went & played starfox & it pissed me off because I couldn't control it so I go online & do a scathing video review of it saying how shit I think it is. The ship has several speeds that you can choose to fly at & the missions are explained in the briefing.. real pros"

Morons parroting the same BS that other morons have parroted down the years and so the circle of fail continues.

It wouldn't be so bad if so many other ignorant morons didn't take the words of said morons as being gospel. One only has to view discussions of retro games on the internet forums of today to see the same old moronic BS being parroted ad infinitum by subsequent generations of gamers.

Morons talking moronic BS that other morons actually believe without question because they're morons. What a wonderful world this is...

I watched 1st 10 minutes and just came away thinking video was clearly made and put out to get a response, it's not a review or unbiased look at the platform, just 2 people sat there coming across as lazy, smug and rather spoilt in places.

So, we get it, Jaguar CD, not that realiable, your Starfox fans, ok established that, now how about the hardware, did you guys appreciate what designers were trying to do, with open 3D worlds, did you perhaps make note of the way that Battlemorph used the CD storage medium over cart Cybermorph or perhaps compare the texture mapped 3D of Hover Strike to 3D games on PS1/Saturn and make note of what could be achived on Jaguar?.

Of course not, it was never the intention, it's easy to pour scorn on hardware you by admission have very little exp.of and are unwilling to spend time on, constructive critiscm i would have welcomed as i've bitched on here enough times how over sensitive controls can ruin a game, but in this video, i never got the feeling it was an objective look.

The guy clearly is'nt stupid, some of vids i've previousily seen were quite funny, but this? very, very dissapointing.He did'nt offend me with it, i just found his approach rather pathetic, he had the chance to do something special with it, instead took a cheap shot, just for laughs and it fell flat on it's face.

As for Highlander CD:

65,000 colour backdrops, pixel-perfect Z-buffering, game enviroments base on locations that appeared in cartoon and an impressive range of scenary.Game desrves some credit here.


Maybe chap outta rename himself to the IGNORANT Video Game Nerd?

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"As for Highlander CD:

65,000 colour backdrops, pixel-perfect Z-buffering, game enviroments base on locations that appeared in cartoon and an impressive range of scenary.Game desrves some credit here.


Maybe chap outta rename himself to the IGNORANT Video Game Nerd?

The backgrounds on Highlander are simply stunning, especially once you get outside the camp. I am actually in contact with the coder of Jaguar Highlander and owner of what used to be Lore Design.

This video seems to be getting a very negative response on other forums too, its just an embarrassment.

Quote from: "The Laird"This video seems to be getting a very negative response on other forums too, its just an embarrassment.

The question is, does the Angry Video Game Nerd even care about the reaction? 

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Quote from: "The Laird"This video seems to be getting a very negative response on other forums too, its just an embarrassment.

The question is, does the Angry Video Game Nerd even care about the reaction?

The reaction, was what he wanted from that Video, clearly meant to get a response from the Jaguar community, lot of hits etc.Cheap tactic.

Slight tangent, but related, this 'knocking' of the Jaguar, seems in vogue again on various sites, not just AVGN Jaguar CD piece, but on RG it popped up again with a claim Jaguar 3D really was shocking in realation to frame rates.

Got me thinking, why then was'nt the Amiga/ST era for example also brought up? things like F-19 on the A500, fantastic for the time clocked in between 7-25 FPS, running it on an A3000 got you 25 FPS on average, Zeewolf on an A1200 was 17 FPS, in 32 colours (these speeds from developers themselves), yet they never seem to get the attention the Jaguar does.

The CD32 or 3DO frame rates in things like Guardian or Star Fighter never seem to be put under the spotlight quite like the Jaguar does.

Of course not, because they are not shit machines with rubbish games like the Jaguar 

Or so we are told by people who have probably never even played 10% of the systems library if any games at all.

Quote from: "The Laird"Of course not, because they are not shit machines with rubbish games like the Jaguar 

Or so we are told by people who have probably never even played 10% of the systems library if any games at all.

It's bollox though, is'nt it? IF your going to view past hardware on how it's 3D fares today, then you need to put everything under that microscope:The SNES FX chip, MD SVP, 32X, CD32, A500/1200, Atari ST/Falcon/Jaguar+Jag CD The 3DO, PS1+Saturn.

Yet these internet experts are more than happy to gloss over games on systems they loved.



All were early steps along the path of using  polygon's for 3D graphics, which were replacing thinkes like wireframe 3D, Vectors etc.

A friend of mine actually did tests through a capture card to find out the frame rates of 3D games on the Jaguar and found that on average Hover Strike CD ran at around 25fps and only dropped to around 17fps when there was loads on screen. He was adamant that this could be improved if he had the source code to it as it was much better than the 12-20fps of the cart version even though it had better textures and extra graphical effects, showing they were still learning the machine.

Incidentally he is the one who is programming this incredible looking 3D game for the Jaguar (shame this video is now several years old as its improved since this was made)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4K7ABfzMeA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4K7ABfzMeA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf0GdXhFl78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf0GdXhFl78)

Quote from: "The Laird"A friend of mine actually did tests through a capture card to find out the frame rates of 3D games on the Jaguar and found that on average Hover Strike CD ran at around 25fps and only dropped to around 17fps when there was loads on screen. He was adamant that this could be improved if he had the source code to it as it was much better than the 12-20fps of the cart version even though it had better textures and extra graphical effects, showing they were still learning the machine.

Incidentally he is the one who is programming this incredible looking 3D game for the Jaguar (shame this video is now several years old as its improved since this was made)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4K7ABfzMeA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4K7ABfzMeA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf0GdXhFl78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf0GdXhFl78)

Sweet.Jaguar Cd games showed just what was possible when hardware in the right hands, yet today? system gets viewed with such scorn, crazy situation.

Well according to James and Mike this game, an on-rails shooter with a low frame rate and very basic flat 3D polygons . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TF5evojYA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TF5evojYA)

. . . . is better than this game with a full fly anywhere 3D environment, texture mapping, transparancies and morphing effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxs89mZWig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxs89mZWig)

 :o :o :o

Quote from: "The Laird"Well according to James and Mike this game, an on-rails shooter with a low frame rate and very basic flat 3D polygons . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TF5evojYA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TF5evojYA)

. . . . is better than this game with a full fly anywhere 3D environment, texture mapping, transparancies and morphing effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxs89mZWig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPxs89mZWig)

 :o :o :o

And if RG's Smurph finds Jaguar and Saturn games to have shocking frame rates, perhaps he'd better open his eyes to frame rates on games on later, far more powerful hardware....


Xbox Project Gotham Racing 2 frame rate locked at 30 FPS

Xbox 360 Forza Horizon frame rate  locked at 30 FPS.

Might have been sprite based, but Super Burnout on Jaguar was 60 FPS.

Xbox+360, both  far more dedicated 3D machines, yet comprimises had to be made.

Capcom's latest Devil May Cry game, frame rate halved from previous games, no more 60 FPS action here, down to 30 FPS.


And going back to the era of Jaguar hardware, looking at C.U Amiga's review of Tornado:

'....On 4000/040, with ALL detail turned OFF, visibility set to MINIMUM, game runs smoothly, on A1200 with MOST of the detail turned OFF, your talking a FRAME EVERY 2 SECS.'

Yet that's NOT considered 'shocking' over on RG?.

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"... Yet that's NOT considered 'shocking' over on RG?

To quote from my previous post in this thread,

QuoteMorons parroting the same BS that other morons have parroted down the years and so the circle of fail continues.

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"... Yet that's NOT considered 'shocking' over on RG?

To quote from my previous post in this thread,

QuoteMorons parroting the same BS that other morons have parroted down the years and so the circle of fail continues.

The few times i glance over the pages of RG forum these days, i'm honestly left wondering just how few games on so few systems these guys have played, or wether it's just selective memory syndrome.

I mean, to give another example of what i'd class as a shocking frame rate, Zeewolf, great on A1200, fine initally once you started playing on an A500, but soon as you started firing, ohhh dear..slow mo.time, now given your going to be doing a lot of shooting....


Also, things like N64 Perfect Dark, which i loved, really did suffer in the frame rate dept, as did PS2 Shadow Of The Col.

Think pretty much every system i've owned has had games where designers really been asking too much of the hardware and even the best looking 3D games, by the very nature of how 3D evolves each generation, really do not hold up by todays standards.

But to see the Saturn+Jaguar singled out on RG is poor going, as is Guardian Heroes just for being sprite based, it's like the main stream press slagging off Retro compilations as the games don't look great.


Is there so little understanding left these days?.

IF AVGN is that big a fan of: 1)Starfox and 2)Slagging off 3D on Retro hardware, then he'd best try Guardian on CD32 next.

Main Programmer, Mark Sibly was a huge Starfox (Starwing) fan, so much so, game was originally called Sibwing.

It, (like Battlemorph) gives player total freedom to fly where they want and game has no ending i believe, so IF AVGN wants basic gameplay features such as this, sure he'll have a field day and IF Smurph wants to leave a comment? it runs at 17 FPS.Shocking eh? :-)

It'd be interesting to see him try a CD32, sure. Problem is, over here, 9 times out of 10, nobody actually knows what it is. I'm pretty sure they didn't even manufacture them over here.

Quote from: "Bobinator"It'd be interesting to see him try a CD32, sure. Problem is, over here, 9 times out of 10, nobody actually knows what it is. I'm pretty sure they didn't even manufacture them over here.

There was an NTSC CD32, they found a warehouse full of them in Canada some years ago now.

Commodore were an American company but released the CD32 first in Europe as the Amiga brand was much stronger here.

Unfortunately Commodore went bankrupt before they were able to launch the system in North America.

Quote from: "Bobinator"It'd be interesting to see him try a CD32, sure. Problem is, over here, 9 times out of 10, nobody actually knows what it is. I'm pretty sure they didn't even manufacture them over here.

:-) well, his piss 'n' moan about having a broken Jag CD got him sent a free one so all he needs to do is a rant about 'Like OMG man, i cannot believe we never even got the CD32 over here, man, all we got was that piece of shit, Jagwarr CD and that sucked, man an like i'd soo be up for reviewing it, man, like it'd be awesome...' and no doubt he'll get sent one.

No offence meant to our US brothers and sisters there...just taking mickey out of AVGN.

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Maybe AVGN and Real Life Cartman need to team up.

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"... Is there so little understanding left these days?

Ignorance is bliss. Welcome to teh internets!

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"... Is there so little understanding left these days?

Ignorance is bliss. Welcome to teh internets!

Certain 'Wahhh' type thread on RG did make me chuckle, so-someone has done exactly the same thing to someone on there, but this time on his certain something and now it's sooo unfair?.......

so has anyone seen any responses from the AVGN regarding his latest, shitty, amateurish work on the Jaguar? I'd be interested to hear what he has to say but I'm guessing he won't reply as he knows his channel is a joke and is mostly there to gobble up viewers for his shitty stereotypical antagonistic videos about his opinions

In keeping with the theme of Jaguar being slagged off by morons, few 'pointers' from EDGE AVP Review, 4/10 score.

The gripes with the Jaguar game they listed were:

1)The front end is incredibly slow (data being uncompressed from cart)-was it? been years since i played it, but don't recal it being more than 5-10 secs or so.

2)Game has no real Strategy-It's not an RTS EDGE.

3)When an Alien dies, it's corpse is left behind and creates an obstacle-Hello? never seen films, read any Graphic Novels? Alien blood eats through hulls etc, you don't want to be walking over a corpse.

4)In Doom you never know whats behind the next corner, in AVP it's usually nothing-Utter crap.

5)Some atmospheric music would be nice-Samples from films created a fantastic atmosphere as it was, game did'nt need music.

6)AVP is a lumbering imitation of Doom-No, your looking at it as a DOOM clone, thus totally failing to grasp what game is about.

Utter fail!

Music would have ruined the atmosphere of AVP

And the loading times are not that bad at all, certainly no worse than a CD system.

yeah that's pretty bad to be fair, I mean the comment about not knowing what's coming round the corner and about the bodies causing damage after you kill an enemy are utterly stupid to say the least!

I thought the idea about the Alien bodies added a layer of depth no other Alien game had before or since which made it really interesting to play and I love the atmosphere in the game coupled with not knowing whats coming.

I mean in what reality would an alien warn you that its approaching. There was nothing scarier to me than going through a doorway, turning round to check and seeing an alien storming after you silently!

You should do a video reply to his video Ultrapro!

I would LOVE to see that 

to AVGN? I am actually REALLY tempted you know... sort of an "In retaliation to the AVGN's unfounded, slanderous and inept assumptions/accusations regarding the Jaguar CD" maybe not quite that long lol... but you get the idea

Quote from: "dcultrapro"to AVGN? I am actually REALLY tempted you know... sort of an "In retaliation to the AVGN's unfounded, slanderous and inept assumptions/accusations regarding the Jaguar CD" maybe not quite that long lol... but you get the idea

Something like that!

It would be perfect for the RVG channel!!!

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"In keeping with the theme of Jaguar being slagged off by morons, few 'pointers' from EDGE AVP Review, 4/10 score.

... 6)AVP is a lumbering imitation of Doom-No, your looking at it as a DOOM clone, thus totally failing to grasp what game is about.

Anybody who views AVP through the prism of being a Doom clone is indeed a total moron.

So what with the release of 9 Lives I thought I would find out who here is actually lucky enough to own a Jaguar CD and if so what are you favourite games for it?

 

I own two Jag Cd's (Bought both combined for under 100 bucks lol).
Favorite games? I love BlackOut Cd! haha j/k
I'll admit I love Blue Lightning and Battlemorph as a tie. I also enjoy Baldies and Myst as a tie.

Lame games? Maybe.

I also own two Jag CD units. Just in case one breaks I have a spare 
Battlemorph, Hover Strike UL, and Impulse X would be my favorite games. I need to get Primal Rage and Iron Soldier 2 and I will have them all.

Primal Rage and Iron Soldier 2 are both great games, but go for a lot of money these days. I still have my original IS2 from when I was younger but sadly the box got lost somewhere along the line 

One of my Jag CD favourites that I come back to again and again is actually one of the pack-in titles - Vid Grid:

[align=center:16qqbuty]VID GRID ATARI JAGUAR CD (//http)[/align:16qqbuty]

Sorry to change the subject slightly but I got a Jag CD off ebay yesterday and it should be delivered tomorrow. I'm very excited as I never thought I'd ever own a Jag CD...I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve!

Laird - the podcast we recorded has been completed now and I'm just waiting for it to be uploaded, will let you know when it's live. Thanks again for helping out.

Again - another slight subject change: I hear a lot about a negative/toxic community around the Jag but I'm yet to see any of it...can anyone elaborate? Or is it a can of worms I'm best ignorant to?

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Sorry to change the subject slightly but I got a Jag CD off ebay yesterday and it should be delivered tomorrow. I'm very excited as I never thought I'd ever own a Jag CD...I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve!

Laird - the podcast we recorded has been completed now and I'm just waiting for it to be uploaded, will let you know when it's live. Thanks again for helping out.

Again - another slight subject change: I hear a lot about a negative/toxic community around the Jag but I'm yet to see any of it...can anyone elaborate? Or is it a can of worms I'm best ignorant to?

1. Excellent news!
2. Yep I know, I was with Katsu at the weekend
3. Visit Atari Age if you dare, you are deffo best off out of it.

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Sorry to change the subject slightly but I got a Jag CD off ebay yesterday and it should be delivered tomorrow. I'm very excited as I never thought I'd ever own a Jag CD...I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve!

Laird - the podcast we recorded has been completed now and I'm just waiting for it to be uploaded, will let you know when it's live. Thanks again for helping out.

Again - another slight subject change: I hear a lot about a negative/toxic community around the Jag but I'm yet to see any of it...can anyone elaborate? Or is it a can of worms I'm best ignorant to?

Congrats! Make sure the laser transport is not smashed down., laser lens is clean and that you just set the discs in the unit itself and dont press down on them and you should be good to go!

As for the toxic jag community, i wont go into tons of detail but as laird said, check out AA and lurk if you want. Asking questions gets you flamed and if you dont like cheap shitty homebrew games made by reboot you are ridiculed relentlessly and ganged up on/trolled.

Best to just avoid it all together and enjoy discovering the titles on your own or through great videos like above and you'll have such a better view/appreciation of the system if you do this.

Nice tip there rush6432 and Tomleecee, I wait with baited breath to hear what you think of the CD unit and what games you have/play on it. I am jealous man

If anyone really is interested in getting one of these i think you can get them from best electronics in the states here for $135 refurbished. Granted shipping might get you a bit if you're not in the states but its better than paying 250-300 for a unit honestly.

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Sorry to change the subject slightly but I got a Jag CD off ebay yesterday and it should be delivered tomorrow. I'm very excited as I never thought I'd ever own a Jag CD...I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve!

Laird - the podcast we recorded has been completed now and I'm just waiting for it to be uploaded, will let you know when it's live. Thanks again for helping out.

Again - another slight subject change: I hear a lot about a negative/toxic community around the Jag but I'm yet to see any of it...can anyone elaborate? Or is it a can of worms I'm best ignorant to?

I rarely play my Jag CD, I don't like the games much, and I have them all. Some people really like the games, to each their own. I hope you enjoy yours. I do like Robinson's Requiem and the glitchy Baldies.

Thanks all for your replies and comments. On the Jag CD, I suppose my real excitement comes from the fact that I never thought I'd own one and then suddenly an unboxed unit with two games (vid grid and Blue Lightning) appeared on ebay. I think it'd only been active for about an hour and was priced at £150 buy it now...so I did. The last one I saw on ebay was a boxed one with a few games that I bid £230 on...and it eventually ended up selling for over £350. There was also one on Gumtree recently but the guy wanted over £500 for it! I've been in contact with the seller who seems like a genuine guy and I've seen pics of the Jag CD working so I have no reason to think I've been tricked!

Thanks for the advice on Atari Age. I've had a look and there are some interesting forum threads on there, but I agree that there is some 'throat jumping' when people ask innocent questions.

Again, off topic slightly (although I did see those videos some time ago and thought they were great) - does anyone know if NTSC Jag CD games work in a PAL system? Someone's selling Battlemorph on ebay uk but it says it's an NTSC copy...

The only game nbot working ona PAL system is Dragon's Lair.

Battlemorph is region free so to say. THe selelr may have bouht it in the US but it does not made it a NTSC Game.

Thanks for the pointer! I shall be making a purchase then...

I know this is shameful self promotion and I'm not sure how that sits with the moderators (sorry if it's not allowed), but here's a look at the Jag CD and the Virtual Light Machine I posted on my site:

http://www.atarijaguar.co.uk/2014/04/the-jaguar-cd-has-landed.html (//http)

http://www.atarijaguar.co.uk/2014/04/virtual-light-machine.html (//http)

Let me know what you guys think!

I moved your posts again as you keep putting them in the normal Jaguar thread instead of the much more relevant Jag CD thread

Oh...sh*t! My bad! I didn't even see the Jag CD thread, sorry about that! Duly noted, I'll be sure to put things in the right place from now on

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Thanks for the pointer! I shall be making a purchase then...

I know this is shameful self promotion and I'm not sure how that sits with the moderators (sorry if it's not allowed), but here's a look at the Jag CD and the Virtual Light Machine I posted on my site:

http://www.atarijaguar.co.uk/2014/04/the-jaguar-cd-has-landed.html (//http)

http://www.atarijaguar.co.uk/2014/04/virtual-light-machine.html (//http)

Let me know what you guys think!

I bought my first Jag CD about 3 years ago, and I was just as excited as you are now! Battlemorph is an awesome game too, hope you enjoy it 

Coming to this way late but the only disappointing thing about the Jag CD to me was the small amount of games released for it (ok and Space Ace...and Myst. Sorry but I can't stand Myst when compared to more entertaining games like Return To Zork. At least the JCD ver. of Myst is the best with the high color and full screen but it's really too bad Return To Zork wasn't finished and released with a similar treatment).

Unfortunately for me my JCD has crapped out (not the standard typical problem with the motor getting stuck) so if anyone knows of someone that can take a look at them I would be happy to find out. I'm afraid it might be kaput but I don't want to give up on it so I can finally play Robinson's Requiem and revisit some BattleMorph.

RE: BM from the beginning of this thread, I know it is blasphemy but I prefer BM to both Starfox and Starfox 64. I like exploring around all of those different worlds. SF is ok and obviously is more action oriented but when S64 attempts their "free range" stuff, it's really clunky and just doesn't work at all. Sure it looks nicer being fully T-mapped but I have had more fun playing BM than S64 (I own both). Also to a comment earlier in the thread, BM does have an ending. I would say it's the best end sequence (including the last level here, not just the final FMV) next to AvP as it makes you sweat it out to finish it.

That's cool arcadehero, and welcome, glad to have another Jaguar fan that's for sure

I know alot of Jag fans absolutely love Battlemorph, and while it's not my favorite game I will readily admit that it's certainly well-programmed and a deep gameplay game. It's not really comparable to a rail-shooter like Starfox64 (which I really like alot), but for some reason I've seen that comparison over and over again. The really great thing is, that you are allowed to prefer BM over SF64 without worry of being attacked personally for it. Welcome to RVG!

Quote from: "64bitRuss"The really great thing is, that you are allowed to prefer BM over SF64 without worry of being attacked personally for it. Welcome to RVG!

Amen!

I suppose the comparison is made because there isn't anything like BM really (ok, maybe kinda sorta Descent but that is stretching things a bit) and the fact that in Atari's mind it was their "Starfox" killer. I guess where they are the same is that you are flying a futuristic craft over an alien world and you blow stuff up. Of course, we'll never know how BM might have been with space sequences

That said, for on-rails action, I *do* like Starfox and S64. I just get annoyed in 64 during free range mode since I feel like it's trying to do something like BM but it is clunky in comparison since the game was obviously designed for the straightforward action parts.

[align=center:1grzu3i9]Robinson's Requiem on the Jaguar CD is superb, especially when you compare it with the other versions:

Robinsons Requiem Atari Jaguar- He keeps shooting me god*(&)it! (//http)

Robinson's Requiem sur 3DO (//http)[/align:1grzu3i9]

Sorry to change the direction of this thread again...but I don't suppose there are any users on here who might have a Memory Track cart for sale? Loving the Jag CD but having to restart the games every time I play is becoming tiresome in the extreme!

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Sorry to change the direction of this thread again...but I don't suppose there are any users on here who might have a Memory Track cart for sale? Loving the Jag CD but having to restart the games every time I play is becoming tiresome in the extreme!

I don't have one for sale but, have you checked Best Electronics to see if they have any?

Than

Quote from: "TrekMD"

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Sorry to change the direction of this thread again...but I don't suppose there are any users on here who might have a Memory Track cart for sale? Loving the Jag CD but having to restart the games every time I play is becoming tiresome in the extreme!

I don't have one for sale but, have you checked Best Electronics to see if they have any?

Thanks TrekMD - I never thought to check Best Electronics. I've also found one for around £60 at Telegames but it seems a bit steep for what is essentially a memory card. Some joker has one on eBay for nearly £100...where do they get these obscene prices from?!

Yeah, prices for Jaguar stuff have been going up.  B&C has them for $89.95: http://www.myatari.com/atarijag.txt (//http)

Wow! 

They really have gone up in price, I paid £10 for mine!

Good luck guys, the jaguar is the next neo geo of ebay

Quote from: "The Laird"Wow! 

They really have gone up in price, I paid £10 for mine!

£10?!?!?  How long ago what that?  Even when I got mine several years back, I paid more than that!

Well, I had almost given up on the idea of owning a JCD unit but when I get my pension with a lump sum, I just might look again :63:

Laird, did you ever get that dude in R's Requiem? It was frustrating watching you die again and again lol

Quote from: "Cryptic33"Well, I had almost given up on the idea of owning a JCD unit but when I get my pension with a lump sum, I just might look again :63:

Laird, did you ever get that dude in R's Requiem? It was frustrating watching you die again and again lol

That's not my video mate ;-)

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Quote from: "Cryptic33"Well, I had almost given up on the idea of owning a JCD unit but when I get my pension with a lump sum, I just might look again :63:

Laird, did you ever get that dude in R's Requiem? It was frustrating watching you die again and again lol

That's not my video mate ;-)

Oh sorry, I should have known better ;) MC3D

[align=center:1uns97ae][size=140]Some great videos of the Jaguar CD game World Tour Racing:[/size]

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - USA Race (//http)

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - Clean Racing (//http)

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - Exciting Ending (//http)

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - Aggressive AI (//http)[/align:1uns97ae]

Quote from: "The Laird"[align=center:1xsm6dpf][size=140]Some great videos of the Jaguar CD game World Tour Racing:[/size]

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - USA Race (//http)

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - Clean Racing (//http)

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - Exciting Ending (//http)

Behind The Retro Wheel Series with "JaguarGod" - World Tour Racing - Aggressive AI (//http)[/align:1xsm6dpf]

That's the best footage I've ever seen of that game and clearly the Jag stands up well as a gamers console
Thanks Laird, great videos.

Great videos!  Thanks for posting these!

Really enjoyed those videos of World Tour Racing...that's a game I really want to get hold of, along with Iron Soldier 2. Maybe when I win the lottery

Anyone else noticed how many Jag CD games have Rob Brydon in them? Battlemorph and Blue Lightning both do...are there any others?! 

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Really enjoyed those videos of World Tour Racing...that's a game I really want to get hold of, along with Iron Soldier 2. Maybe when I win the lottery

Anyone else noticed how many Jag CD games have Rob Brydon in them? Battlemorph and Blue Lightning both do...are there any others?!

Both WTR and IS2 are excellent.

I have never heard about Rob Brydon being in any Jaguar games! The FMC voiceovers in Battlemorph are Scottish and I thought the Blue Lightning ones were by the same woman who voiced Skylar? I happen to know Fred Gill who owned ATD and programmed both BattleMorph and CyberMorph so can ask him about it when we next speak.

Those are the only 2 Jag CD games by ATD, so doubt he would be in any others if he is in those 2.

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Quote from: "Tomleecee"Really enjoyed those videos of World Tour Racing...that's a game I really want to get hold of, along with Iron Soldier 2. Maybe when I win the lottery

Anyone else noticed how many Jag CD games have Rob Brydon in them? Battlemorph and Blue Lightning both do...are there any others?!

Both WTR and IS2 are excellent.

I have never heard about Rob Brydon being in any Jaguar games! The FMC voiceovers in Battlemorph are Scottish and I thought the Blue Lightning ones were by the same woman who voiced Skylar? I happen to know Fred Gill who owned ATD and programmed both BattleMorph and CyberMorph so can ask him about it when we next speak.

Those are the only 2 Jag CD games by ATD, so doubt he would be in any others if he is in those 2.

Woah! Some new information for The Laird! Haha! Yeah, the 'scottish' voice over on battlemorph is Rob Brydon. I recognised his voice instantly as I'm a big fan of his impressions in The Trip (and I checked the credits on the box and in the game), and he's also in the credits for Blue Lightning. Mad eh?!

http://www.atarijaguar.co.uk/2014/04/jag-star.html (//http)

I will definitely need to ask Fred about this!!!!

Quote from: "The Laird"I will definitely need to ask Fred about this!!!!

Please do...I'd be interested to know more. I tweeted him, but as per usual celebrities don't reply to riff-raff

Rob Brydon confirming via Twitter that he did indeed star in Battlemorph!

Quote from: "Tomleecee"Rob Brydon confirming via Twitter that he did indeed star in Battlemorph!

Hahahaha! That is excellent!!!! 

Brilliant stuff.

Nice, very nice. 

[align=center:md5gmu1j]Blue Lighting (Atari Jaguar CD) (//http)[/align:md5gmu1j]