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Title: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on July 27, 2013, 20:19:19 PM
Continuing with the Evolution of series, let's change gears and move away from sports games for the moment.  Let's take a look at the Evolution of Retro Pinball games!  And to start, let's look at the evolution of these games on the...

[align=center:21c06wza][size=180]Atari 2600[/size][/align:21c06wza]

[align=center:21c06wza]Video Pinball
Quick Clips - Atari 2600 - 003 - Video Pinball (http://http)

Midnight Magic
[Gameplay] Midnight Magic - Atari 2600 (http://http)

Bumper Bash
Atari 2600 Bumper Bash 1983 Spectravideo PAL [!] (http://http)[/align:21c06wza]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: onthinice on July 30, 2013, 04:39:04 AM
I was lucky to have experienced Pinball games. Nice to see the 2600 was able to adapt and improve with each release.
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on July 30, 2013, 04:46:22 AM
I've always enjoyed video pinball games.  On the 2600, Midnight Magic is a favorite of mine but Bumper Dash is no slouch.   The evolution of these games over the years is pretty cool, though, with tables becoming far more sophisticated and realistic.  That's what I'm hoping to portray here.  So, let's move on to another system. 

[align=center:18648cr1][size=180]Intellivision[/size][/align:18648cr1]

[align=center:18648cr1]Pinball
Pinball - Intellivision Lives! (http://http)[/align:18648cr1]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: onthinice on July 30, 2013, 05:03:20 AM
Never played the Intellivision Pinball. Looks really good :113:

Could have been another commercial, for why Mattel's Intellivision, looked better then Atari's game system!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 01, 2013, 22:48:57 PM
[align=center:dpemskv7][size=240]Sinclair ZX Spectrum[/size]

ZX Spectrum Longplay [077] Advanced Pinball Simulator (http://http)

Time Scanner Walkthrough, ZX Spectrum (http://http)

Pinball ZX Spectrum (http://http)

Macadam Bumber (http://http)

Pinball -- from Cassette 50 (ZX Spectrum) (http://http)[/align:dpemskv7]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 01, 2013, 22:50:40 PM
[align=center:13gmxc1z]Pinball Power (ZX Spectrum) (http://http)

Pinball Wizard (ZX Spectrum) (http://http)

Soccer Pinball ZX Spectrum (http://http)

Zipper Flipper ZX Spectrum 1983 R.E.D. Sunshine (http://http)

Microball ZX Spectrum (http://http)[/align:13gmxc1z]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 01, 2013, 23:41:22 PM
Wow, that's a lot of games on the ZX and quite varied in quality and type as well.  Really like Pinball Power and Time Scanner.  I find it curious, though, that the table itself on Time Scanner has so few colors even though there are other color being displayed on the screen for the score, etc. 
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 01, 2013, 23:53:14 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Wow, that's a lot of games on the ZX and quite varied in quality and type as well.  Really like Pinball Power and Time Scanner.  I find it curious, though, that the table itself on Time Scanner has so few colors even though there are other color being displayed on the screen for the score, etc.

Time Scanner is actually a conversion of a Sega arcade game! I really like the ST version too.

The lack of colour is down to the legendary Spectrum colour (attribute) clash. I explained it better in the Spectrum thread but basically the hardware only allows you to display 2 colours in each 8x8 square that makes up the screen, one for ink (pixels) and one for paper (background). So when something coloured moved into a square where there is already 2 colours being used attribute clash occurs and it changes colour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_clash (http://http)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2013, 00:01:36 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Wow, that's a lot of games on the ZX and quite varied in quality and type as well.  Really like Pinball Power and Time Scanner.  I find it curious, though, that the table itself on Time Scanner has so few colors even though there are other color being displayed on the screen for the score, etc.

Time Scanner is actually a conversion of a Sega arcade game! I really like the ST version too.

The lack of colour is down to the legendary Spectrum colour (attribute) clash. I explained it better in the Spectrum thread but basically the hardware only allows you to display 2 colours in each 8x8 square that makes up the screen, one for ink (pixels) and one for paper (background). So when something coloured moved into a square where there is already 2 colours being used attribute clash occurs and it changes colour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_clash (http://http)

OK then.  That explains it.  :)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 02, 2013, 00:07:28 AM
That is what makes games on the Spectrum that use a lot of colour like Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, Dan Dare 3, R-Type and Shadow Warriors more impressive as it was a real skill to do colour graphics on the Spectrum without any clashing.

A lot of coders just took the easy way out and did games in monochrome.
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2013, 01:29:02 AM
[align=center:666nwvbz][size=180]Bally Astrocade[/size]

Bally Pin
Bally Pin for the Bally Astrocade (http://http)[/align:666nwvbz]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: 64bitRuss on August 02, 2013, 01:53:13 AM
Not sure if I'm supposed to add videos to these threads, but here's an Arcade video pinball from 1985, and a good one: Pinball Action
Pinball Action (http://http)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2013, 01:55:16 AM
It's good if you can as it makes it easier to visualize the game that you are referring to and to be able to compare with other versions on other systems. 

Pinball Action looks excellent!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: 64bitRuss on August 02, 2013, 01:59:08 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
It's good if you can as it makes it easier to visualize the game that you are referring to and to be able to compare with other versions on other systems. 

Pinball Action looks excellent!
What I mean is that I didn't know if these 'evolution' threads were strictly handled by Laird and you. You might want the games posted in chronological order...I wasn't sure.

Anyway yes, Pinball Action is very good. It has 4 screens total. You have to hit the different colored drop targets to open up the corresponding colored spot, which when entered will transport you to another screen which will have a new theme. Red being a fire theme with a dragon IIRC, and so on. I want to say the cabinet had flipper buttons on the side of the console, but I may be thinking of Baby Pac-Man there. This game may have simply been sold in kit form.
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2013, 02:21:47 AM
That does sound like a really cool pinball game.  Baby Pac-Man is one that I'd love to see properly adapted to something like the 5200 or 7800 by having someone create the pinball table as a video pinball machine.  The on-screen Baby Pac-Man has been recreated but not the pinball aspect of it.

Insofar as posting video, please feel free.  Mostly it is Laird and I who post them but we don't have the monopoly on that nor do we look for chronological order.  We go forward and backward all the time.  :)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 02, 2013, 11:40:39 AM
Exactly, threads are for everyone! We would love other people to post more, makes out job easier!  :16:
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2013, 22:10:44 PM
[align=center:15yk04r0][size=180]ColecoVision[/size][/align:15yk04r0]

[align=center:15yk04r0]Roller Ball
(http://www.colecovision.dk/images/roller-ball-scr-4.png)[/align:15yk04r0]

Sorry that I can't find a video of this game. Roller Ball is a homebrew title and it requires the Super Game Module for the ColecoVision. I'd love to see this in action.
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 03, 2013, 14:18:07 PM
[align=center:27h0c270][size=240]Atari Lynx[/size]

Pinball Jam Atari Lynx (http://http)

[size=240]Atari Falcon[/size]

Atari Falcon - Pinball Dreams (http://http)[/align:27h0c270]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2013, 14:34:21 PM
I've always enjoyed Pinball Jam on the Lynx.  Spent hours playing it!  That Falcon Pinball Dreams looks pretty good.  Looks like they got the physics well too!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 04, 2013, 11:29:43 AM
[align=center:qeqxrzaf][size=240]PC Engine[/size]

PC Engine Longplay [002] Alien Crush (http://http)

PC Engine Longplay [103] Devils Crush (http://http)

[PCE longplay] Time Cruise II (http://http)[/align:qeqxrzaf]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 04, 2013, 14:38:28 PM
[align=center:2hgixlj8][size=180]Atari Jaguar[/size]

Pinball Fantasies
Pinball Fantasies - Atari Jaguar (http://http)

Ruiner Pinball
Ruiner Pinball - Atari Jaguar (http://http)[/align:2hgixlj8]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 05, 2013, 21:12:17 PM
[align=center:2lh5s40a][size=240]Systema 2000 / Hartung Game Master[/size]

(http://i.imgur.com/owxpyRM.jpg)
Pinball[/align:2lh5s40a]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 18, 2013, 18:20:37 PM
[align=center:20j05an5][size=180]Nintendo Entertainment System[/size]

High Speed
High Speed - NES Gameplay (http://http)

Pin*Bot
Pin-Bot - NES Gameplay (http://http)

Pinball
Pinball - NES Gameplay (http://http)

Pinball Quest
Pinball Quest - NES Gameplay (http://http)

Rock'n'Ball
Rock 'n' Ball - NES Gameplay (http://http)[/align:20j05an5]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 18, 2013, 18:20:53 PM
[align=center:15pk9623][size=180]More Nintendo Entertainment System[/size]

Rollerball
Rollerball - NES Gameplay (http://http)[/align:15pk9623]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 18, 2013, 18:26:28 PM
[align=center:fnwxxku7][size=240]Sega Master System[/size]

Sonic Spinball (Master System) - Walkthrough (http://http)

Casino Games Sample - Sega Master System (http://http)
Skip to 6:58[/align:fnwxxku7]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 18, 2013, 18:35:20 PM
I was wondering why you posted a casino game as that will be coming also!  :)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 23, 2013, 19:25:29 PM
[align=center:3jdxkoia][size=240]Philips CD-i[/size]

Pinball Game Sample -- Philips CD-i (http://http)

[size=240]Amstrad GX4000[/size]

[AMSTRAD GX4000] Super Pinball Magic (Gameplay Run-through) (http://http)[/align:3jdxkoia]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 23, 2013, 20:57:56 PM
Laird, looks like you posted the same video twice.  :(
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 23, 2013, 21:05:11 PM
[align=center:3vshukgy][size=180]Odyssey 2[/size]

Thunderball!
Magnavox Odyssey 2: Thunderball! [Magnavox] (http://http)

Pinball (Prototype)
Pinball! (PROTOTYPE!) for the Magnavox Odyssey (http://http)[/align:3vshukgy]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 23, 2013, 21:07:48 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Laird, looks like you posted the same video twice.  :(

Fixed!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 23, 2013, 21:23:35 PM
Glad you did!  That looks pretty cool!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on August 25, 2013, 19:32:35 PM
[align=center:n0qxxogd][size=240]3DO Real[/size]

Real Pinball - 3DO gameplay (http://http)

Battle Pinball 3DO (http://http)

Pataank - 3DO gameplay (http://http)[/align:n0qxxogd]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on August 25, 2013, 21:51:22 PM
[align=center:12uzxexh][size=180]SNES[/size]

Super Pinball: Behind the Mask
Super Pinball - SNES Gameplay (http://http)

Pinball Dreams
Pinball Dreams SNES Gameplay (http://http)

Pinball Fantasies
Pinball Fantasies Game Sample - SNES/SFC (http://http)

Super Pinball 2: Space Sister
Super Pinball 2 SNES gameplay - Showtime Table (http://http)[/align:12uzxexh]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on September 07, 2013, 18:40:11 PM
[align=center:2uzewvno][size=180]GameBoys (Original, GBC, GBA)[/size]

Pinball - Revenge of the Gator
Game Boy Longplay [047] Pinball - Revenge of the Gator (http://http)

Pinball Dreams
Pinball Dreams - Game Boy (http://http)

Kirby's Pinball Land
Game Boy Longplay [051] Kirbys Pinball Land (http://http)

Pinball Fantasies
Game Boy - Pinball Fantasies (1995) (http://http)

Pokmon Pinball
Classic Game Room - POKEMON PINBALL Game Boy Color review (http://http)[/align:2uzewvno]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on September 07, 2013, 18:45:53 PM
[align=center:1xy20gkm][size=180]More GameBoys (Original, GBC, GBA)[/size]

The Pinball of the Dead
Classic Game Room - THE PINBALL OF THE DEAD review for Game Boy Advance (http://http)

Mario Pinball Land
CGR Undertow - MARIO PINBALL LAND review for Game Boy Advance (http://http)

Pac-Man Pinball Advance
Pac-Man Pinball Advance on GBA (http://http)

Pokmon Pinball Ruby & Sapphire
Pokmon Pinball Ruby & Sapphire gameplay video (GBA) (http://http)[/align:1xy20gkm]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on September 08, 2013, 14:59:24 PM
[align=center:209pnnoy][size=240]Sega Game Gear[/size]

Wizard Pinball Game Sample - Game Gear (http://http)

Game Gear Longplay [030] Pinball Dreams (http://http)

Sega Game Gear - Sonic Spinball (http://http)[/align:209pnnoy]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on September 08, 2013, 15:08:23 PM
Makes sense to see a Sonic pinball game on a Sega system, just like a Mario pinball game on a Nintendo system.  :)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on September 14, 2013, 03:04:40 AM
[align=center:oecvt8dd][size=180]Sony PlayStation 1[/size]

Pro-Pinball: Fantastic Journey
Pro-Pinball: Fantastic Journey on PS1 (http://http)

Patriotic Pinball
Patriotic Pinball PS1,2003 (http://http)

Worms Pinball
Worms Pinball for PlayStation PSone - Never released in USA! (http://http)

Austin Powers Pinball
Austin Powers Pinball on PS1 (http://http)

KISS Pinball
PS1 Games Revisited - KISS Pinball (http://http)[/align:oecvt8dd]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on November 15, 2013, 19:46:59 PM
[align=center:32f96zws][size=240]Atari XL/XE[/size]

rocky pinball demo for Atari 8-bit (http://http)

David's Midnight Magic for the Atari 8-bit family (http://http)

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/advanced_pinball_simulator_zps39bf7034.gif)

dirty harry pinball for Atari 8-bit (http://http)

pinball game for Atari 8-bit (http://http)[/align:32f96zws]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on December 14, 2013, 19:40:06 PM
[align=center:255ehp2k][size=180]Sega Genesis/Mega Drive[/size]

Psycho Pinball
Mega Drive Longplay [145] Psycho Pinball (http://http)

Dino Land
Dino Land (Pinball Game) Of Sega Genesis (http://http)

Dragon's Fury
Dragons Fury (Sega Genesis Pinball Game) (http://http)

Cre Ball
Cre Ball (Another Sega Genesis Pinball Game) (http://http)

Dragon's Revenge
Mega Drive Longplay [260] Dragon's Revenge (http://http)[/align:255ehp2k]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on December 15, 2013, 13:05:54 PM
I edited your post as you put the same game twice - Dragon's Fury and Devil Crash (same game different name)

But I added the sequel, Dragon's Revenge, as you missed that out!  :26:
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on December 15, 2013, 14:27:32 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
I edited your post as you put the same game twice - Dragon's Fury and Devil Crash (same game different name)

But I added the sequel, Dragon's Revenge, as you missed that out!  :35:
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on December 16, 2013, 20:41:06 PM
[align=center:q83oruwp][size=240]Sega Saturn[/size]

T-9101G - Pinball Graffiti JPN Sega Saturn - Satakore.com (http://http)

Sega Saturn A - Z - Pro Pinball The Web (Gameplay) (http://http)

Digital Pinball: Last Gladiators Game Sample - Sega Saturn (http://http)

Tilt - Sega Saturn (http://http)

Sega Saturn - Kyuutenkai Fantastic Pinball - Introduction and Gameplay footage (http://http)[/align:q83oruwp]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on December 16, 2013, 20:51:29 PM
Those all look very nice! 
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on December 16, 2013, 20:52:41 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Those all look very nice!

They are! The Saturn has some of the best Pinball Games on any system!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on December 16, 2013, 20:54:01 PM
Excellent!  Saturn owners must have had a blast playing pinball on their system.
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on December 20, 2013, 15:26:02 PM
[align=center:111zpnza][size=240]Sega Dreamcast[/size]

Pro Pinball Trilogy - Sega Dreamcast (http://http)

Unreleased - Worms Pinball (Dreamcast, 2000) Gameplay Movie 1: Worms (http://http)

Neo Golden Logres Dreamcast Pinball (http://http)[/align:111zpnza]
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on December 20, 2013, 16:02:20 PM
Hmm, I can't see the embedded videos.  It says "(Embedding disabled, limit reached)" 
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TL on December 20, 2013, 18:28:29 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Hmm, I can't see the embedded videos.  It says "(Embedding disabled, limit reached)"

Weird, I see them all. Need to report this issue to Zapiy because I remember you having the same problem before.
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on December 21, 2013, 05:05:43 AM
Yep, is happening on other Evolution of threads also.  Not sure what is causing it.  The last time he changed some setting and it fixed it but I guess it was temporary.
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: zapiy on September 18, 2014, 22:14:02 PM
There have some been some fantastic games in this genre released by [member=4867]HewsonConsultants[/member]

(http://www.hewsonconsultants.com/images/21st_game_images_trans.png)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on September 18, 2014, 22:52:54 PM
Gotta love pinball, whether real or virtual!  :)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: zapiy on October 26, 2014, 13:26:39 PM
Agreed, this one has been shown previous but its awesome and a must for fans.

http://youtu.be/WYj4papkEGQ (http://http)
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: TrekMD on October 26, 2014, 20:07:52 PM
That's Dragon's Fury outside of Japan. Awesome game!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: Saturn on November 09, 2015, 06:07:33 AM
Awesome thread. I actually got my first Sega Saturn because of Last Gladiators and the fun I had with it at a friend's house on his machine. Still play it to this day on real hardware and in SSF. Great game!
Title: Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
Post by: Greyfox on November 09, 2015, 10:01:54 AM
I love video pinball, they are superb, I love all the Zen pinball titles, which have now migrated to the Ps4, so you can play all the Star Wars Tables in 108p HD :), some brilliant stuff, but a bit pricey at 9.99 per table.

I loved all the ones on the Mega-drive, it seemed to get the most original and bizarre video pinball games, making them a must play.