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Title: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on May 11, 2013, 22:04:59 PM
[align=center:25wt44ps]It's a long one but a very good one!  :113:

Atari Lynx Review (//http)[/align:25wt44ps]
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 11, 2013, 22:53:14 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"It's a long one but a very good one!  :113:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbBmDdhVK0I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbBmDdhVK0I)

Only watched 1st ten mins so far dude, but i'm in awe of your games collection behind you in that vid.

:-) Personally never seen the Lynx as a 'true' 16-Bit system myself, more of a hybrid, same way i view PC Engine, having said that...systems like the Lynx and PC Engine make a mockery of the whole 'Bittage' aspect anyway as the GPU's etc so powerful and you've only to look at the stunning games the Lynx pulled off to see the power it had.

Great points about ATARI listening to focus groups, i still wonder why they went with this 'research' as they must have questioned how making it so big would effect the whole portability aspect of the machine and pushed up costs-more raw materials needed, bigger die sets etc etc.also, how under appreciated the improved battery life of the MK II was, in an age where todays systems like the 3DS and Vita still struggle with the performance to battery life hit, improvements ATARI made are not to be sniffed at.
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on May 11, 2013, 22:59:32 PM
Watch the rest of it, I promise you that you are going to PERSONALLY LOVE some of the stuff I talk about!

That is only a small part of my collection behind me BTW :3:

The Lynx has a 16-bit data bus with a 16-bit graphics chip, 16-bit sound chip and 16-bit blitter so that's enough to qualify it for me. But yes it is very similar to the PC Engine in that it's a hybrid because of the 8-bit 6502 CPU.
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 11, 2013, 23:31:59 PM
Was'nt ATARI 'forced' to put up the Lynx price (by a few £'s) at 1 time, due to the value of the $ or something on the stock market? sure they did similar with the ST range, but that was due to Ram prices increasing at the time.Mind you way i'm posting tonight (missing a ? in a link, putting MD stuff in Lynx thread, i wager i could be very wrong).
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on May 11, 2013, 23:55:25 PM
Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"Was'nt ATARI 'forced' to put up the Lynx price (by a few £'s) at 1 time, due to the value of the $ or something on the stock market? sure they did similar with the ST range, but that was due to Ram prices increasing at the time.Mind you way i'm posting tonight (missing a ? in a link, putting MD stuff in Lynx thread, i wager i could be very wrong).

It was initially very expensive as I said in the video, that was blamed on the exchange rate at the time. And the early high price in the US was because a screen supplier let Atari down and they ended up paying much more for the LCDs than they originally planned.
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 12, 2013, 00:53:12 AM
I was an avid mag reader at the time of the Lynx, think i 1st saw it in that zzap 64 comsole Ker-razy feature, but i went for the sega Game Gear over it (picked up Lynx few years later), despite bing a n ATARI owner in the past (2600, 800Xl and 520STFM).Reasons were simple:

The Game Gear had Sonic+Shinobi, plus the MS converter meant i had a big range of software to choose from.The Lynx from a technical perspective just blew me away, but it so needed the software support Sega etc had.It seemed like the right hardware in the wrong hands.
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on May 12, 2013, 00:55:08 AM
Have you watched all of the video yet?
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 12, 2013, 01:00:25 AM
Nearly mate.

You mention Lee Chapman, he from Syston, Leicester per chance? IF so...mention my name, see if he remembers me. :-)
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on May 12, 2013, 01:06:45 AM
Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"Nearly mate.

You mention Lee Chapman, he from Syston, Leicester per chance? IF so...mention my name, see if he remembers me. :-)

That's him, he is a member here - Dubchaser
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Shadowrunner on May 12, 2013, 01:19:25 AM
Who's this guy rambling on about the Lynx for 38 minutes?  :)
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on May 12, 2013, 01:24:19 AM
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"Who's this guy rambling on about the Lynx for 38 minutes?  :)

Dunno, some English prick  :4:
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Shadowrunner on May 12, 2013, 01:32:43 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"Who's this guy rambling on about the Lynx for 38 minutes?  :)

Dunno, some English prick  :24:
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TrekMD on May 12, 2013, 04:26:44 AM
Very nice video!  Just finished watching all of it. :)
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 12, 2013, 14:09:47 PM
It's a really good video I must say. You sure were well-prepared and explained a lot of stuff.

As always I'd argue that the Game Gear's library was not worse than that of the Lynx, but that comes down to taste in genres. :)
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on May 12, 2013, 14:18:44 PM
Thanks! Glad you liked it, I tried to be as balanced and unbiased as possible, which is hard when you are a massive Lynx fanboy like me   :8:
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: zapiy on July 18, 2013, 14:40:16 PM
Great stuff fella..

Always good to hear a fanboys thoughts lol....
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: DreamcastRIP on July 18, 2013, 22:02:33 PM
Great video, Laird. Here's hoping it encourages some folk to get themselves a Lynx because, as you said in the video, those who already own one know what a great console it was.

I was one of those people who paid the full £179.99 launch price for a Lynx back in the day, haha!

Well said re: the prevailing perception on teh internets of the Lynx and the NES. Damn you for letting facts get in the way of the retarded received wisdoms of teh internets!

P.S. Lynx doesn't have rubberised grips underneath like Lynx II has! :10:
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TL on July 18, 2013, 22:04:52 PM
Glad you liked it!

It's got a great reception and even the highly respected Curt Vendel and Marty Goldberg messaged me to tell me that they thought my review was excellent.

 :16:
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: TrekMD on July 18, 2013, 22:17:16 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"Glad you liked it!

It's got a great reception and even the highly respected Curt Vendel and Marty Goldberg messaged me to tell me that they thought my review was excellent.

 :113:
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Gorf on July 18, 2013, 23:42:19 PM
Yikes! That was painful.....not the review which was excellent mind you but having to listen to Laird for almost 40 bloody frigging minutes!  :4:)
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Gorf on July 18, 2013, 23:45:13 PM
Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"Great video, Laird. Here's hoping it encourages some folk to get themselves a Lynx because, as you said in the video, those who already own one know what a great console it was.

I was one of those people who paid the full £179.99 launch price for a Lynx back in the day, haha!

Well said re: the prevailing perception on teh internets of the Lynx and the NES. Damn you for letting facts get in the way of the retarded received wisdoms of teh internets!

P.S. Lynx doesn't have rubberised grips underneath like Lynx II has! :10:

Paid $149.00 US

Xenophobe as my fist game with a bud...we got home and lynxed up the two Lynx's and played for about 9 hours till we beat the friggin crap out of the game( Actually in all truth it kicked our asses were it not for the continues.)
Title: Re: Atari Lynx - Console Review!
Post by: Gorf on July 19, 2013, 00:08:17 AM
Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"
Quote from: "The Laird"It's a long one but a very good one!  :113:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbBmDdhVK0I (//http)

Only watched 1st ten mins so far dude, but i'm in awe of your games collection behind you in that vid.

:-) Personally never seen the Lynx as a 'true' 16-Bit system myself, more of a hybrid, same way i view PC Engine, having said that...systems like the Lynx and PC Engine make a mockery of the whole 'Bittage' aspect anyway as the GPU's etc so powerful and you've only to look at the stunning games the Lynx pulled off to see the power it had.

Great points about ATARI listening to focus groups, i still wonder why they went with this 'research' as they must have questioned how making it so big would effect the whole portability aspect of the machine and pushed up costs-more raw materials needed, bigger die sets etc etc.also, how under appreciated the improved battery life of the MK II was, in an age where todays systems like the 3DS and Vita still struggle with the performance to battery life hit, improvements ATARI made are not to be sniffed at.

Bitness should be based on where the machine is moving the most of its data, not the main CPU. What good
is a 64 bit CPU if the rest of the system, including the bus is only 32 bits(N6Whore). Where as with the Jaguar,
the powerhouses are true 64 bits and the CPU's are only telling those powerhouses what to do. You do not need
64 bit math or 64 bits of command to the 64 bit powerhouses, just a true 64 bit bus with the main processing
powerhouses processing in 64 bits...for this reason the Jaguar is truly 64 bits. Same with the lynx....so what
the 6502 is only 8 bits, the chips that do all the work and the bus are 16 bits.

It's like riding a highway that starts out at 8 lanes and opens up to 16...or in the Jaguar's case having 16 lanes
opening up to 32 lanes all the way to 64 lanes. The N6Whore starts out at 64 lanes and drops down to a seriously traffic jammed 32 lanes.