Retro Video Gamer

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Been looking at one of these for a while.

Any owners?

That is the exact package I bought last year.

The PAL version of the TurboGrafx 16 which itself is the American version of the PC Engine.

Its grey instead of black and drops the 16 but plays all the same games.

It has amazing quality video output too which is a massive bonus and the pack-in game Blazing Lazers is one of the best shooters I have played.

See my games thread here too: http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7 (//http)

Up until last year I had a Core Grafx II.
Great system, looks brilliant just didn't have the time for it. 

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Wow, i am soooo jealous.

Take it you sold it?

Yep, with 30 hu-cards and a home-made (not by me) scart connection.

Gutted..

that's a thing of beauty you sold - I love Hu Cards - cool even today

Here is a crappy pic of my Hu-Card collection that I took a while back:

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Very nice pics!

Just bumped this topic for UltraPro as he has joined the TurboGrafx owners list here!

I used to be an owner of one. Bought it brand new shortly after it came out but foolishly sold it a few years later when girls and drinking seemed more important. If I could go back in time I'd smack myself in the back of the head and say neither are worth it! LOL  Oh well maybe some day I'll get another one.

They look pretty cool, and I've played a few games for the system on emulation. Now you guys here have got me needing another piece of retro hardware. My wife won't be happy with you...

Quote from: "Shadowrunner"I used to be an owner of one. Bought it brand new shortly after it came out but foolishly sold it a few years later when girls and drinking seemed more important. :-

If you do go for one then you should take up the same deal I found for UltraPro, see his thread in the marketplace.

unboxing vid for those of you interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiVkalp2uME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiVkalp2uME)

yeah got mine on Thursday! very happy with it so far, I played the following games briefly:

Alien Crush
Splatterhouse
Dragon Spirit
Galaga '90
Blazing Lasers
Bonks Adventure
Legendary Axe
Vigilante
JJ and Jeff
Victory Run

Waiting for the following to arrive:

Military Madness
Keith Courage In Alpha Zones
Dungeon Explorer
Side Arms

Side Arms is apparently being posted today and Military Madness has apparently been shipped to the wrong address and somehow its on its way to Canada... somehow I think the seller is just lying and either didn't have it or double booked it.

Not sure whats happening with my Dungeon Explorer but thats one of the ones I'm looking forward to the most

I really like Dragon Spirit so far and love Blazing Lasers. Legendary Axe was winding me up a bit but looks good so far.

Does anyone have any other suggestions I could look into maybe picking up sometime? I know I'm probably going to get Devils Crush eventually, any others?



Did anyone see this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIDGSt1qfQk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIDGSt1qfQk)

EPIC or what?

That guy got a great score there!!!

Especially the Blockbuster Video rental case, I know a few people who have the Jaguar version of them.

In terms of recommendations, yes definately get Devil Crush as it's far superior to Alien Crush.

The TurboGrafx/PC Engine is the shoot 'em up machine, I swear half its library is this genre. You have a few good ones already but I also recommend R-Type, Ordyne, Psychosis, Fantasy Zone, Space Harrier and Air Zonk, which the game that Zaku on the Lynx was based on.

Also Legendary Axe II is better than the first one, there is a second Bonk game, Parasol Stars, Bomberman, Final Lap Twin, Pac-Land and Ninja Spirit is one of the best games on the console.

Another game I think you will really like, although its a bit weird is Veigues: Tactical Gladiator as I know you love your Transformers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPTK2Reobf0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPTK2Reobf0)

cool thanks for the suggestions, that tactical gladiator one, is it possible to get a US version? Just had a brief look and couldn't see many available, I'll have another look later on

Quote from: "dcultrapro"cool thanks for the suggestions, that tactical gladiator one, is it possible to get a US version? Just had a brief look and couldn't see many available, I'll have another look later on

Yep, I picked it up quite cheaply

how bout this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Grafx-1 ... 9cc&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-TurboGrafx-16-Veigues-Tactical-Gladiator-Video-Games-/130795977164?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1e740c39cc&_uhb=1)

Also I just bought a cart only Ninja Spirit so that should be good. And my Keith Courage arrived today, can't wait for Dungeon Explorer!

Quote from: "dcultrapro"how bout this one?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Grafx-1 ... 9cc&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-TurboGrafx-16-Veigues-Tactical-Gladiator-Video-Games-/130795977164?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item1e740c39cc&_uhb=1)

Also I just bought a cart only Ninja Spirit so that should be good. And my Keith Courage arrived today, can't wait for Dungeon Explorer!

Seems like a decent deal, I think mine was £10 (also loose)

been looking at that Veigues game and it looks a bit clunky/irritating as you seem to take lots of hits and don't seem to be able to avoid them too well, have you played this much? Do you actually enjoy it as much as some of the other titles? I just don't want to grab things that will tick me off as I will regret spending the money lol

Victory run looks nice but I can't get my head around the gears controls, I change to second and accelerate, then as soon as I try to go up another gear it goes funny as if I put it up a gear to high and the engine can't handle it, how do you do it? I must be doing something wrong

Quote from: "dcultrapro"been looking at that Veigues game and it looks a bit clunky/irritating as you seem to take lots of hits and don't seem to be able to avoid them too well, have you played this much? Do you actually enjoy it as much as some of the other titles? I just don't want to grab things that will tick me off as I will regret spending the money lol

I havn't played it loads, its a game I need to play some more I think before I do a review. I thought it was really fun from what I played, you just have to get used to the way it controls with the different body parts and tactics.

Quote from: "dcultrapro"Victory run looks nice but I can't get my head around the gears controls, I change to second and accelerate, then as soon as I try to go up another gear it goes funny as if I put it up a gear to high and the engine can't handle it, how do you do it? I must be doing something wrong

If you rev the car too much you break the gear, which is far too easy to do. You can repair it again after you finish a stage. It's an annoying feature that ruins the game a bit, I don't think Victory Run is very good.

aah ok so I must've broken a gear, but I didn't see anything that would clearly explain that during the game, maybe I will try it again and see if I notice anything. I'm probably gonna stop buying bits for a while because its just too easy to do and I end up spending loads of money I don't have!!

Victory run takes some getting used to but can be fun when you get the hang of it. For changing gears just wait until your speed isn't increasing anymore before going up to the next one. After a while you should learn what speed that happens at and then you can start changing gears just before it maxes out which will save some time.

oh ok so the speed levels off BEFORE the gear gauge gets to the red is that right? one of the many pains of having a cart only game and no manual lol

It's inevitable that you will hit the red, just try not to stay there for too long in one gear. 3rd gear is the best but obviously you can't use it forever or it will wear down so when you hit a straight section try to get up to 4th. Just takes some practice 

I like Final Lap Twin and World Court Tennis because of the RPG elements. I agree about Parasol Stars and of course Pac-Land. I prefer Bonk over Bonk II. JJ and Jeff is fun for a little while. Maybe it is more a filler cart if you collect. I used to play Victory run but always prefered Final Lap.

assuming I get my Military Madness, Sidearms, Ninja Spirit and Dungeon Explorer I will probably stop there for a while unless I see Devils Crush for very cheap lol, I might also pick up Outrun if I see it

I have been looking for a reasonably priced copy of Chase HQ. Always thought that was fun game.

Quote from: "onthinice"I have been looking for a reasonably priced copy of Chase HQ. Always thought that was fun game.

Same, I really want the TG version

I know the Super Nintendo version was supposed to be super but from what I have seen the TG vesion has it beat by a mile.

Here is a full list of official TurboGrafx releases with a rarity rating:   

    Aero Blasters NEC R-5
    Air Zonk TTI R-5
    Alien Crush NEC R-3
    Andre Panza Kick Boxing NEC R-2
    Ballistix NEC R-5
    Battle Royale NEC R-3
    Blazing Lazers NEC R-4
    Bloody Wolf NEC R-4
    Bomberman NEC R-4
    Bomberman '93 NEC R-7
    Bonk 3: Bonk's Big Adventure TTI R-9
    Bonk's Adventure NEC R-3
    Bonk's Revenge NEC R-4
    Boxy Boy NEC R-3
    Bravoman NEC R-4
    Cadash Working Designs R-5
    Champions Forever Boxing NEC R-4
    Chase H.Q. NEC R-5
    Chew Man-Fu NEC R-7
    China Warrior NEC R-3
    Cratermaze NEC R-4
    Cyber-Core NEC R-5
    Darkwing Duck TTI R-5
    Davis Cup Tennis Hudson R-1
    Dead Moon NEC R-6
    Deep Blue NEC R-4
    Devil's Crush NEC R-5
    Double Dungeons NEC R-3
    Dragon Spirit NEC R-4
    Dragon's Curse NEC R-5
    Drop Off NEC R-6
    Dungeon Explorer Hudson R-1
    Dungeons & Dragons: Order of the Griffon TTI R-6
    Falcon TTI R-3
    Fantasy Zone NEC R-2
    Final Lap Twin NEC R-1
    Galaga '90 NEC R-1
    Ghost Manor TTI R-4
    Gunboat NEC R-1
    Hit The Ice TTI R-3
    Impossamole NEC R-4
    Jack Nicklaus Turbo Golf Accolade R-1
    Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu TTI R-6
    JJ & Jeff NEC R-2
    Keith Courage in Alpha Zones NEC R-1
    King of Casino NEC R-3
    Klax TENGEN R-6
    Legend of Hero Tonma TTI R-4
    Legendary Axe II, The NEC R-4
    Legendary Axe, The NEC R-2
    Magical Chase NEC R-9
    Military Madness NEC R-5
    Moto Roader NEC R-3
    Neutopia NEC R-3
    Neutopia II NEC R-6
    New Adventure Island TTI R-3
    Night Creatures NEC R-6
    Ninja Spirit NEC R-2
    Ordyne NEC R-2
    Pac-Land NEC R-3
    Parasol Stars Working Designs R-4
    Power Golf Hudson R-1
    Psychosis NEC R-4
    R-Type NEC R-2
    Raiden NEC R-4
    Samurai Ghost TTI R-6
    Shockman NEC R-4
    Sidearms Radiance Software R-2
    Silent Debuggers NEC R-4
    Sinistron NEC R-3
    Soldier Blade NEC R-6
    Somer Assault NEC R-4
    Sonic Spike Volleyball NEC R-3
    Space Harrier NEC R-3
    Splatterhouse NEC R-4
    Super Star Soldier NEC R-4
    Super Volleyball NEC R-2
    Takin' It To The Hoop NEC R-2
    Talespin NEC R-4
    Tiger Road NEC R-4
    Time Cruise TTI R-3
    Timeball NEC R-5
    Tricky Kick NEC R-2
    Turrican Accolade R-4
    TV Sports Basketball NEC R-3
    TV Sports Football NEC R-2
    TV Sports Hockey NEC R-2
    Veigues Tactical Gladiator NEC R-2
    Victory Run NEC R-2
    Vigilante NEC R-2
    World Class Baseball NEC R-2
    World Court Tennis NEC R-2
    World Sports Competition TTI R-4
    Yo Bro NEC R-4

I'm still waiting for the following:

Sidearms
Military Madness
Ninja Spirit
Dungeon Explorer (PAL)

can't wait to get them. I must say I've not bee blown away by Splatterhouse so far, I find it fairly linear and frustrating so far... might warm to it though. Tempted to pick up Devils Crush too but we shall see

Quote from: "dcultrapro"I'm still waiting for the following:

Sidearms
Military Madness
Ninja Spirit
Dungeon Explorer (PAL)

can't wait to get them. I must say I've not bee blown away by Splatterhouse so far, I find it fairly linear and frustrating so far... might warm to it though. Tempted to pick up Devils Crush too but we shall see

What happended about that Jap Dungeon Explorer? Did you sent it back?

And you don't mean PAL as there technically are no PAL TurboGrafx games, you mean US or TG 

yeah good spot, I meant the compatible version, NOT JAP lol. Yes I have the JAP card and will probably sell it again on Ebay unless anyone here wants it?

ok so my Ninja Spirit and Dungeon Explorer arrived today, and I ordered a tap and extra controller at surprisingly reasonable prices!! tempted to buy bomberman now, I assume thats turbotap comaptible? loving Side Arms and a bunch of the other titles so far!!

Quote from: "dcultrapro"ok so my Ninja Spirit and Dungeon Explorer arrived today, and I ordered a tap and extra controller at surprisingly reasonable prices!! tempted to buy bomberman now, I assume thats turbotap comaptible? loving Side Arms and a bunch of the other titles so far!!

Bomberman is yes, so is Dungeon Explorer.

yeah, dungeon explorer is why I purchased the stuff for multiplayer, and I think Devils Crush is two player as well? Though I don't know how that would work!

Quote from: "dcultrapro"yeah, dungeon explorer is why I purchased the stuff for multiplayer, and I think Devils Crush is two player as well? Though I don't know how that would work!

It is but I think you can use 1 controller. Ordyne and Aero Blasters are both very good multi-player shooters.

Thanks for the rarity list Laird. It is know wonder I own so few games. Most of the ones I want are the most rare ones. 

regarding the rarity, is it the HIGHER the number the rarer or the other way round?

Yep the higher number is more rare. Wish Power Golf was higher.

so dungeon Explorer is a 1 on the scale? I'm surprised by that, hey ho! I can't see a CD Expansion for my TGX16 anywhere, did they even ever exist? lol

Yes. They are very expensive.

The Duo was the combined card and cd system. The Turbo CD is the attached base. Working Designs made some really good games before jumping to the Mega/Sega CD. I have heard the Cinemaware classic It Came from the Desert is another must own cd title.

Quote from: "dcultrapro"I can't see a CD Expansion for my TGX16 anywhere, did they even ever exist? lol

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thanks bud lol, though I meant more along the lines of I don't see them on sale anywhere but nice to see what it looks like!!

Ok so I just hooked up the new controller and the turbo tap, its awesome! I played a two player Devils Crush game by myself and tried Dungeon Explorer with 2 pads as well. can't wait to play this with someone who actually wants to play on it with me lol!! I need to check what other games I own are two player as well

Quote from: "dcultrapro"thanks bud lol, though I meant more along the lines of I don't see them on sale anywhere but nice to see what it looks like!!

Ok so I just hooked up the new controller and the turbo tap, its awesome! I played a two player Devils Crush game by myself and tried Dungeon Explorer with 2 pads as well. can't wait to play this with someone who actually wants to play on it with me lol!! I need to check what other games I own are two player as well

I played Dungeon Explorer in 2-Player with my brother, it's certainly a lot easier!!!

yeah I actually can't wait to try games like this in multiplayer. think when my mate Mobius is down I will try and pester him to play them in multiplayer with me, he and I have always been co-op campaign buddies since the Dreamcast/xbox so hopefully it won't be too tough to convince him lol

This is my HuCard collection as it stands, about 20 of them are boxed.

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awesome! I don't see Devils Crush there though, you do have that don't you?

Might do some pics of my stuff soon

Quote from: "dcultrapro"awesome! I don't see Devils Crush there though, you do have that don't you?

Might do some pics of my stuff soon

Not the TurboGrafx version no, I have it on the Mega Drive so am not that worried.

aaah yes I remember seeing it on your MD nevermind!!

Quote from: "dcultrapro"aaah yes I remember seeing it on your MD nevermind!!

There is a 3rd game in the series that is just on the MD too, Dragon's Revenge.

Nice set of HuCards! Now I want to play Galaga '90 again.

Quote from: "tomwaits"Nice set of HuCards! Now I want to play Galaga '90 again.

Me too! I might have to stick it on this weekend, probably my second favourite TG game.

Turbo Grafx my arse its a PC Engine...right I'm off to post in the Genesis section  :P

Quote from: "AmigaJay"Turbo Grafx my arse its a PC Engine...right I'm off to post in the Genesis section  :P

Basement dwelling nerds in Spain got to play with a 'female friend' courtesy of Commodore's 16-bit successor to the C64!

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "AmigaJay"Turbo Grafx my arse its a PC Engine...right I'm off to post in the Genesis section  :P

Basement dwelling nerds in Spain got to play with a 'female friend' courtesy of Commodore's 16-bit successor to the C64!

The successor to the C64 was the C128 not the Amiga...

Quote from: "AmigaJay"

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "AmigaJay"Turbo Grafx my arse its a PC Engine...right I'm off to post in the Genesis section  :P

Basement dwelling nerds in Spain got to play with a 'female friend' courtesy of Commodore's 16-bit successor to the C64!

The successor to the C64 was the C128 not the Amiga...

He said 16-bit successor

Haha I KNEW you would pick up on that when I typed it!

Quote from: "AmigaJay"Haha I KNEW you would pick up on that when I typed it!

LOL! Props to you LadyFriendJay    for having a sense of humour about it though, aka being adult about it, by not taking it as a personal attack on you because I dared jesting about a company you enjoy/enjoyed owning products by. If only the rest of the internet were thus...

Quote from: "dcultrapro"can't wait to get them. I must say I've not bee blown away by Splatterhouse so far, I find it fairly linear and frustrating so far

Great comparison video!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJ5zrG8G44 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIJ5zrG8G44)

Great video Laird! Splatterhouse for the Turbo seems to me to have held up well against the arcade.

have to give it another go soon but so far I find it more irritating than enjoyable.

I've done my Turbografx system overview vid I just need to upload it for Zap to look at I guess. I'm not sure how great it is, its 20 mins or so but I think its ok, I spend about 7-10 mins talking bout it then another 8 or so showing games

Quote from: "dcultrapro"have to give it another go soon but so far I find it more irritating than enjoyable.

I've done my Turbografx system overview vid I just need to upload it for Zap to look at I guess. I'm not sure how great it is, its 20 mins or so but I think its ok, I spend about 7-10 mins talking bout it then another 8 or so showing games

Sounds really good mate!

I should post my views on the PC Engine since I'm getting it out again right now (the PC Engine I mean heh heh). It's a marvellous machine that was so far ahead of its time and in its original 1987 Japanese incarnation is one of the most beautiful looking systems ever made. I don't know how many hours I played Space Harrier on it, or Klax, or Out Run, or Pacland... Then there were shoot em ups like Gradius and R-Type (I preferred Gradius), and too many others to mention. I'll never sell it simply because it's not worth it: too many great titles/conversions and it doesn't take up much space. Only criticism is too many shoot-em-ups that become very familar once you've played a few of them. I just wish a few other games had been ported from the arcade, like Paperboy, Xybots and Marble Madness, because the PCE had the potential to be the definitive arcade conversion specialist for the 80s.

Quote from: "Spector"I just wish a few other games had been ported from the arcade, like Paperboy, Xybots and Marble Madness, because the PCE had the potential to be the definitive arcade conversion specialist for the 80s.

Very true, the Mega Drive kind of took over in that respect.

I am still surprised though at the amount of games Sega licensed for release on the PCE given they had consoles of their own at the time.

Quote from: "dcultrapro"have to give it another go soon but so far I find it more irritating than enjoyable.

I've done my Turbografx system overview vid I just need to upload it for Zap to look at I guess. I'm not sure how great it is, its 20 mins or so but I think its ok, I spend about 7-10 mins talking bout it then another 8 or so showing games

No need to get my approval fella. I trust your judgement, so go for it.

ok thanks I will upload this tonight

Thanks Ultrapro for the coming upload!

most welcome!

on a seperate note, my Military Madness arrived yesterday finally, need to check it out tonight and see how I like it. Its one of the handful of multiplayer ones I have and really want to play with a friend sometime!

Alright, keep us updated.

ok here you go guys hope its ok and not too boring lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLMXX_ParhQ& (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLMXX_ParhQ&)

Mate, that video was brilliant!  8)

X2

Sterling job DCpro , very interesting video and well spread out, didn't find it boring at any part ..which is hard to do these days . Congrats on a job well done.

wow... thanks guys I'm glad you liked it, I really wasn't feeling 100% when I did it so I was worried it would be poo lol. I might share it round on some sites etc.

thanks again guys much appreciated

Quality video. Great stuff.

Damn you DCUltrapro, I've been resisting buying the TurboGrafx and now having watched your video I want one all over again. 
Nice video, great job.

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"Damn you DCUltrapro, I've been resisting buying the TurboGrafx and now having watched your video I want one all over again. 
Nice video, great job.

The video did its job then!

Excellent! Great choice of games. Hope to see more of the Turbo in the future.

OK you win. I just bought a Turbografx on Ebay for myself for xmas. I didn't know I needed one until I came here.
Oh and by the way I'm telling my wife it's all the fault of you guys here at RVG that I spent more money on these old consoles.

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"OK you win. I just bought a Turbografx on Ebay for myself for xmas. I didn't know I needed one until I came here.
Oh and by the way I'm telling my wife it's all the fault of you guys here at RVG that I spent more money on these old consoles. ???

£65 for "new" boxed Pal turbografx with Blazing Lazers game and all leads.

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"£65 for "new" boxed Pal turbografx with Blazing Lazers game and all leads.

Thats not too bad I suppose, but I could have got you a better deal had you told me from the same place dcultrapro got his. I did mention this to you before 

Anyway it's a great system so hope you enjoy it!

What can I say, I'm an impulsive buyer 

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"OK you win. I just bought a Turbografx on Ebay for myself for xmas. I didn't know I needed one until I came here.

Your re-education is progressing well, young grasshopper! 

I blame this site also!

thanks guys for the positive feedback so far! Check out my latest videos on youtube including Stellar Assault on 32x AND Alien Crush on TGX


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxnBwkjqQo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyxnBwkjqQo)

Great stuff, I look forward to seeing more of these!

And my TurboGrafx has arrived today and has been set up and tested 

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"And my TurboGrafx has arrived today and has been set up and tested  8)

Congratulations on your new console dougtitchmarsh!  Happy gaming!

So far the best thing about the console is that having only one game to play means I don't have to make decisions about what to play. So today I am playing BlazingLazers and tomorrow I will be playing BlazingLazers and well you get the idea...

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"So far the best thing about the console is that having only one game to play means I don't have to make decisions about what to play. So today I am playing BlazingLazers and tomorrow I will be playing BlazingLazers and well you get the idea... ;)

Buy, buy, buy, Galaga '88 (or Galaga '90 as it was renamed in the West) as you like classic old-school shmups!

Galaga '90 is on a list of wants for the TurboGrafx and I will be looking at the top games list on this site for it as soon as I have some spare cash again

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I still waiting on this to be released.

Quote from: "onthinice"(http://i13.servimg.com/u/f13/17/65/85/95/bonk_r10.jpg)
I still waiting on this to be released.

I never knew about this 

There actually seems to be quite a few unreleased games for the TurboGrafx, here is another one:

(http://archives.tg-16.com/archive-three/TP-11-16.jpg)

Where did you get yours from titch?

Quote from: "zapiy"Where did you get yours from titch?

He told me he got it on eBay, quite a pricey deal too. The best place to get them are Video Game Source in Germany, this is where dcultrapro got his after my recommendation.

This exact deal in fact! (//http)

Hi Zapiy, I got mine from this ebay listing (//http)
I couldn't afford the extra for the bundled deal Laird is linking to so I only have 1 game for now.

Mentioned in previous threads how, at the time the media 'scared me off' buying a PC Eng, saying it would need mods/convertors etc to get good picture from it.

Just found another example of these media Claims.

Edge, (early days issue) their 'Tech View' feature on the PC Engine:

'...SCART versions need a colour booster to compensate for poor RGB quality, without it colours are usually very dark.'

This is cobblers though, right?

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"Mentioned in previous threads how, at the time the media 'scared me off' buying a PC Eng, saying it would need mods/convertors etc to get good picture from it.

Just found another example of these media Claims.

Edge, (early days issue) their 'Tech View' feature on the PC Engine:

'...SCART versions need a colour booster to compensate for poor RGB quality, without it colours are usually very dark.'

This is cobblers though, right?

Sounds like total bollocks to me

TOTAL bollocks I would say. First of all you don't NEED scart for the NEC the composite/RCA cables are perfect imo the picture is ace on both my LCD and my old trinitron 22". most tvs back then AND in the last two years should come with at least one RWY input as standard so theres no reason to change it to Scart really

It's not about SCART though. It's about RGB SCART.

Ok well however you look at it the picture you get from the default setup of the tgx its perfectly fine, might  not be rgb but its certainly the clearest native console signal i've seen. I've not tried rgb scart so i dont know how successful it is. Be interested to hear if anyone else has had success im that regard

I'm still very much learning, when it comes to the PC Engine, but are these specs correct:

up to 64 sprites on screen, 7.16 Mhz CPU, resolution of 256X224 in most games ( 384X256 in R-type), up to 256 colours on screen from palette of 512 and more sound channels than MD?.

Just 'let down' (i.e not TRUE) 16-Bit hardware as the CPU was an 8 Bit chip?.

If so, hot damn, no wonder the games look so stunning.

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"If so, hot damn, no wonder the games look so stunning.

Indeed. PC Engine was an absolute beast for certain game types. It absolutely killed Sega's true 16-bit Mega Drive for sprite scaling, for instance, despite Sega's console being released a full year later. I kinda equated it with the Atari Lynx in that both had an 8-bit CPU but also featured banzai tripped out custom chips to make them fly. Truly wonderful machines the pair of them.

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"I'm still very much learning, when it comes to the PC Engine, but are these specs correct:

up to 64 sprites on screen, 7.16 Mhz CPU, resolution of 256X224 in most games ( 384X256 in R-type), up to 256 colours on screen from palette of 512 and more sound channels than MD?.

Just 'let down' (i.e not TRUE) 16-Bit hardware as the CPU was an 8 Bit chip?.

If so, hot damn, no wonder the games look so stunning.

Yes that is correct. The other limitation is that it can only do a single background plane, which makes parallax scrolling difficult.

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"If so, hot damn, no wonder the games look so stunning.

Indeed. PC Engine was an absolute beast for certain game types. It absolutely killed Sega's true 16-bit Mega Drive for sprite scaling, for instance, despite Sega's console being released a full year later. I kinda equated it with the Atari Lynx in that both had an 8-bit CPU but also featured banzai tripped out custom chips to make them fly. Truly wonderful machines the pair of them.

Really ahead of their time by the sounds of it, more i read on PC Engine, more impressed i am by it.

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"If so, hot damn, no wonder the games look so stunning.

Indeed. PC Engine was an absolute beast for certain game types. It absolutely killed Sega's true 16-bit Mega Drive for sprite scaling, for instance, despite Sega's console being released a full year later. I kinda equated it with the Atari Lynx in that both had an 8-bit CPU but also featured banzai tripped out custom chips to make them fly. Truly wonderful machines the pair of them.

The reason for that is that the PC Engine has custom hardware for high speed animation so it can update the images quicker thus making it seem much smoother.

Anybody recommend a good place to get a few games for my TurboGrafx?
Ebay seems a bit sparse on games for sale.

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"Anybody recommend a good place to get a few games for my TurboGrafx?
Ebay seems a bit sparse on games for sale.

Yes eBay!!!! 

But you will need to change you search to include eBay US, the PAL TurboGrafx plays all North American HuCards.

Both Ultrapro and I bought nearly all our games from the US, it works out pretty cheap with the favourable exchange rate too.

yeah I just buy the carts on their own mostly and they are nearly all from the US or US format shipped form another country. Just filter the region code after you search turbografx and then click games

I also recommend searching for both "Turbo Grafx" and "Turbografx" as you will get different results.

I am moving closer to picking one of these up..

Quote from: "zapiy"I am moving closer to picking one of these up..

Well move a bit quicker then

So I was browsing ebay last night and came across a TurboGrafx in really good condition and ending soon so I threw in a last second bid and I won! Complete impulse buy LOL! It was a good deal though so I'm quite happy about it 
Comes with 2 games too, Cratermaze and Deep Blue.  I really don't know anything about those games and not expecting much but they will give me something to play till I get a few other games.

Quote from: "Shadowrunner"So I was browsing ebay last night and came across a TurboGrafx in really good condition and ending soon so I threw in a last second bid and I won! Complete impulse buy LOL! It was a good deal though so I'm quite happy about it 
Comes with 2 games too, Cratermaze and Deep Blue.  I really don't know anything about those games and not expecting much but they will give me something to play till I get a few other games.

Well done!

I have reviewed both games on here. Deep Blue is shite but Cratermaze is brilliant!

Cool, I'll check out your reviews 

definitely pick up Blazing Lazers, Alien/Devil Crush, Dragon Spirit, Ninja Spirit and Side Arms, they are my personal favourites! congrats on the pick up

Quote from: "dcultrapro"definitely pick up Blazing Lazers, Alien/Devil Crush, Dragon Spirit, Ninja Spirit and Side Arms, they are my personal favourites! congrats on the pick up

Thanks! Those are definitely some of the games I plan to get.

Very Nice!!!! Enjoy the system Shadowrunner!

Quote from: "onthinice"Very Nice!!!! Enjoy the system Shadowrunner!

Thanks! Can't wait 

I might have one of these minus the step down tranny.. Any advice on what one i sould get?

No idea mate, any should do really.

so does anyone ever see the CD drive for the TGX online at all? I'd be interested to hear if it goes for more or less than a Jaguar CD add on! I'd also love to know if it works with the console I have due to region and the various models etc... I'm guessing it does. How many titles released on the CD by the way? Anyone?

Here is a list of Turbo CD games:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_Engine_CD_games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PC_Engine_CD_games)

They pop up on eBay from time to time, expect to play about the same as a Jag CD for one, maybe a little less.

wow thats a long ol list thanks bud! I assume Japanese games wont work on the American CD drive? I assume also that they didn't do a localised one for the EU?

There's no region protection on the CD games so if you do ever manage to find a CD player any game should work on it. The CD games don't seem to be very expensive either so I guess that partly makes up for the high cost of the CD add on.

Just read a little more on wikipedia and there is one slight exception.
They released multiple CD system HU cards that need to be inserted in the system to play the CD games. There are Japanese and American versions of these cards except for the arcade CD card which was only released in Japan. What this means is if you wanted to play arcade CD games you would need to buy a HU card adapter so that you could use the Japanese card in your system. Crystal clear right? lol yeah it's a little confusing.

Quote from: "Shadowrunner"Just read a little more on wikipedia and there is one slight exception.
They released multiple CD system HU cards that need to be inserted in the system to play the CD games. There are Japanese and American versions of these cards except for the arcade CD card which was only released in Japan. What this means is if you wanted to play arcade CD games you would need to buy a HU card adapter so that you could use the Japanese card in your system. Crystal clear right? lol yeah it's a little confusing.

I seem to remember very few games use that card and there is an American arcade card that allows you to play pretty much everything.

All of the Arcade Card, Super CD Card, and CD-ROM System Card variations are pretty confusing. I think the Arcade Card was Japan only, and there are two versions depending on whether you have a Duo (Arcade Card) or a CD add-on unit (Arcade Card Pro). You need a JPN console or a PCE->Turbo HuCard adapter to play Arcade Card games.

The best Arcade Card games are Sapphire (rare shmup - $$$) and Strider (new cutscenes and an extra stage), but here's a full list:

Arcade Card Games:
Battlefield '94 In Super Battle Dream
Fire Pro Female Wrestling (WOWOW vs. JWP)
Garou Densetsu 2/Fatal Fury 2
Garou Densetsu Special/Fatal Fury Special
Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire
Jong Shin Densetsu
Kabuki Itouryodan
Mad Stalker Full Metal Force
Madou Monogatari I Honou no Sotsuenji
Ryuuko No Ken/Art of Fighting
Strider Hiryuu
World Heroes 2

Super CD games with Arcade Card enhancement:
3 x 3 Eyes Sanjiyan Hensei
Atlas (The) - Renaissance Voyager
Brandish
Eikan Wa Kimini
Formation Soccer '95
Gulliver Boy
J. League Tremendous Soccer '94
Linda Cube
Mahjong Sword Princess Quest Gaiden
Popful Mail
Princess Maker 2
Private Eye Doll
Sexy Idol Mahjong Fashion Monogatari
Sotsugyou II Neo Generation
Super Real Mahjong P II & III Custom
Super Real Mahjong P V Custom
Tanjou Debut
Vasteel 2
Wrestling Angels Double Impact


Also, for full compatibility on my Duo-R, I have both an Arcade Card and a CD-ROM System Card v1. Some of the early CD games won't work with the Super CD standard that's built-in for Duo consoles so you have to 'downgrade' to the original CD card to run a few of the early games.

Thanks for clearing that up Tom and yes very confusing!

ok so a card would be needed to play SOME games... but not all the regular ones right? What the hell is the card needed for? Damned confusing lol

Basically, there are three 'levels' of CD-Rom cards. They hold the boot code for CD games and offer different amounts of extra memory for the CD titles... like the RAM expansion carts for Saturn.

The first version were CD-Rom System Cards. These were made for the add-on CD drives for the PC Engine / TG-16 and only support games with a 'CD-Rom System' logo on the package. Some type of CD-Rom HuCard is required to boot CD games from an add-on drive.

The second round were Super CD Cards. These had more memory on the HuCard and were required to play 'Super CD' games. Duo-R or Turbo Duo consoles have the equivalent of a Super CD Card built-in, add-on CD drives needed a HuCard upgrade. This is backwards compatible with almost all of the 'CD-Rom System' games.

The last round were Arcade Cards. These had even more memory and supported the Arcade Card exclusive or Arcade Card enhanced games that I c/p'ed. It's a HuCard upgrade for any of the NEC consoles. They're backwards compatible with all 'Super CD' and almost all 'CD-Rom System' games.

I would so love one of these bad boys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0167Mn7c3E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0167Mn7c3E)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46CT0xz1UYY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46CT0xz1UYY)

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-C ... 596&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-CD-system-video-game-console-complete-with-5-games-/111017219478?pt=Video_Games&hash=item19d9245596&_uhb=1)

This kind of belongs in the Auction Watch thread but since we have been talking about the CD add on here and how rare they are I thought I would post it in this thread.
This is complete with the Turbografx system and some games but should still give an idea of how much they go for.

Bagged one of these beauties now, boxed and mint condition for £40 with 4 games.

Legendary Axe,
Cratermaze,
Vigilante,
Victory Run,

Not played them yet.. Are they any good?

Good score! All good games too. Looks like the Turbografx club is getting pretty big around here  

Sure is i could not cope with all the chit chat and had to get onboard.. Hope to have a bash tomorrow if not on Monday as i am off work for a couple of days.

Just got Victory run for the TG, was playing yesterday. As I only got the Hu-Card and no instructions I'm not sure what I have to do lol.

Quote from: "dougtitchmarsh"Just got Victory run for the TG, was playing yesterday. As I only got the Hu-Card and no instructions I'm not sure what I have to do lol.

Same, I thought I was doing things wrong when my car kept breaking. Then I looked it up online and found out this was pretty normal! It's just not a particularly great game.

I'm going to put yet another plug for Good Deal Games (since I'm friends with Michael, who own the site).  You should check out his TurboGrafx 16 section of the store and the homebrew games he sells there:  Good Deal Games (//http).

Quote from: "TrekMD"I'm going to put yet another plug for Good Deal Games (since I'm friends with Michael, who own the site).  You should check out his TurboGrafx 16 section of the store and the homebrew games he sells there:  Good Deal Games (//http).

Shame they are all CD games 

Quote from: "The Laird"

Quote from: "TrekMD"I'm going to put yet another plug for Good Deal Games (since I'm friends with Michael, who own the site).  You should check out his TurboGrafx 16 section of the store and the homebrew games he sells there:  Good Deal Games (//http).

Shame they are all CD games 

He said something else is coming in a few weeks but I don't know if it is also on CD.

Quote from: "Shadowrunner"http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-C ... 596&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Turbo-Grafx-16-CD-system-video-game-console-complete-with-5-games-/111017219478?pt=Video_Games&hash=item19d9245596&_uhb=1)

This kind of belongs in the Auction Watch thread but since we have been talking about the CD add on here and how rare they are I thought I would post it in this thread.
This is complete with the Turbografx system and some games but should still give an idea of how much they go for.

Well this ended last night at $260 or around 170 pounds. Too much for me!

Yeah that is a bit rich for me too, one day though  . . . . .

Was a big surprise to see this, an article about the PCE/TG in The Guardian, an upper-class British broardsheet newspaper. Very well written too, except the little Jaguar jibe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/ga ... ime-forgot (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/apr/02/turbografx-16-machine-that-time-forgot)

Brilliant stuff fella. Nice find BTW.

Thank you! Very nice article!

Now, is the Amiga the best thing since Thundercats lunchboxes? I have to say a Thundercat lunchbox would be cool to own

Quote from: "The Laird"Was a big surprise to see this, an article about the PCE/TG in The Guardian, an upper-class British broardsheet newspaper. Very well written too, except the little Jaguar jibe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/ga ... ime-forgot (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2013/apr/02/turbografx-16-machine-that-time-forgot)

Yeah the Jaguar Jibe is bit sad to read really, shows totally lack of understanding on part of the writer, i mean say the GX4000 was used instead of Jaguar, it's regarded as poor, but boasts decent games in it's selection (Navy seals, Switchblade, Robocop 2 etc very well recived).


Really wish Jurnos would check a story before they make reference to a system, Tempest 2000 alone won awards, Jaguar Doom rated as best cart version, Jaguar Syndicate again best cart version as is Wolfenstien.Dissapointing part to an otherwise excellent article.

One of these on my hit list but its gotta be boxed and mint.

C&VG takes an early look at the Turbo Express handheld:

(http://i.imgur.com/aCTt08i.jpg)

Interesting that they slammed the PCE GT/TurboExpress for having what the writer claims to be a screen that sufferes from blurring. In the gamesTM vol.I bookazine I have the article covering this handheld console states that the screen doesn't suffer from blurring at all.  :-

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"Interesting that they slammed the PCE GT/TurboExpress for having what the writer claims to be a screen that sufferes from blurring. In the gamesTM vol.I bookazine I have the article covering this handheld console states that the screen doesn't suffer from blurring at all.  :-

From what little i know on the subject of printing deadlines, there's supposed to be substantial cost's involved if printing deadlines are missed-know ages ago RG Magazine dropped a feature at the last minute (think it appeared in a future issue) and had to use a piece from Gamestm to fill the void as it were.This was years ago, so could'nt go into more details...

C+VG reviewers from the 8/16 Bit days often admitted writing reviews based on:P.R releases and blurb on packaging.

Might there also be a possibility of the hardware using screens from different suppliers? kinda like way orig Xbox has 2 (possibly more ?) different HDD's.I know the PSP uses different screens as my Phat does'nt suffer from the screen blur i've seen on many others.

You've also got the question of who wrote which article, lot of the stuff i read in Gamestm raised an eyebrow, when it was regarding retro.Some of the Clash Of The Titan wins that went to C64, i could'nt believe and i was a C64 owner, plus as many will know, the worst conversions feature was often absurd (yeah, slag the 2600 for poor version of Tempest or Double Dragon).


Plus i'll never forget Mega for claiming MCD had no custom chips, was just a dumb CD drive.Thunderhawk etc must have meant someone had an eggy face....

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"Might there also be a possibility of the hardware using screens from different suppliers?

While that possibilty does exist I've certainly never read of it in the case of the PCE GT/TurboExpress's screen and I've read a fair number of articles about the system over the years.

QuoteYou've also got the question of who wrote which article, lot of the stuff i read in Gamestm raised an eyebrow, when it was regarding retro.Some of the Clash Of The Titan wins that went to C64, i could'nt believe and i was a C64 owner, plus as many will know, the worst conversions feature was often absurd (yeah, slag the 2600 for poor version of Tempest or Double Dragon).

Plus i'll never forget Mega for claiming MCD had no custom chips, was just a dumb CD drive.Thunderhawk etc must have meant someone had an eggy face....

I consider this to be by far the more likely explanation.

To be clear, I'm not referring to mere differences of opinion between one magazine article writer and another, e.g. one reviewer loving a game whereas another reviewer in a different magazine give the same game a lukewarm write-up. That sort of thing is to be expected as the terms of reference are subject by their very nature. What I'm referring to here are matters of an objective nature where both reviewers simply cannot be both correct.

The only possible caveat I can think of in this specific instance is that I've read on numerous occasions that while the PCE GT/TurboExpress's screen doesn't suffer from blurring it does in fact suffer from a 'shimmering' effect when playing certain more fast-moving games. Maybe to some people they incorrectly use the term 'blurring' because, to their eyes, shimmering looks like blurring. Pure speculation on my part, obviously.

As for your other point about said Imagine Publishing publication having so often singled out Atari 2600 games within that specific negative context when there have been countless other equally dire games on myriad other console brands, then it does seem rather peculiar to me. The more seasoned gamers among us could perhaps be forgive for wondering whether such decisions are taken with one eye on not wishing to upset certain companies who pay to advertise in such magazine/s.

I just found this really bizarre demo on You Tube:

Lady Gaga Poker Face TurboGrafx 16 Pc engine conversion (//http)

[align=center:1f3i16fh]Splatterhouse (TurboGrafx-16) James & Mike Mondays (//http)[/align:1f3i16fh]

Yep, that does look like Jason. Best way to get around the license, use a similar character and call it something else. 

The original Splatterhouse on the PCE/TG is a superb game, far better than the NES version that's for sure!

[align=center:3pl50686]Christmas Turbografx Reviews (Blazing Lazers, Battle Royale, Legendary Axe II) - Pat the NES Punk (//http)[/align:3pl50686]

[align=center:2yjjcdhg]551 Combined TG16 - TG16CD - PC engine & PCE CD box scans (//http)[/align:2yjjcdhg]

Some really fantastic artwork in there! 

Time to get back into some TurboGrafx gaming me thinks.

I never liked the US Turbografx boxart, always prefered the original PCE JP boxart, though i liked the colour coding boxes!

Awesome little system with the perfect mix of 8 and 16 bit. I have to agree about the US box art, but still one of my favourites

The boxes are just the right size for what is inside. No wasted space.

I always liked the artwork of the US Turbo. I remember stores renting NES games but not TG-16. So putting screenshots on the back of the box was a nice touch and it let you see what you were getting beforehand.

Top Hat Gaming Man has released a video looking at the PC Engine and its games.  Is the system worth playing today?

Has anyone seen this version of the PC Engine before?  It's called the Turbo Grafx 16 Vistar.

I'll share with you some pics of my shmups for Pc Engine:

(https://i.ibb.co/ctXLQ7C/PC-ENGINE-SHOOTER-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pZryd9R)

(https://i.ibb.co/2nKJn2j/PC-ENGINE-SHOOTER-2.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NVYRVhL)

That's a nice collection!

Wow, that's really nice!

Thanks guys! =)