Title: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TrekMD on January 28, 2013, 19:34:51 PM
Post by: TrekMD on January 28, 2013, 19:34:51 PM
Continuing the "Let's compare..." next in line is Choplifter.Â
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[align=center:2bl6ly40]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWrYMaXE0fo&list=UUgeSfaLXS8Macm3ddzYF_wg&index=2[/align:2bl6ly40]
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TL on January 28, 2013, 20:23:08 PM
Post by: TL on January 28, 2013, 20:23:08 PM
Always been a big fan of Choplifter so good to see this!
I think the VIC-20 version was a bit too ambitious for the hardware. The Atari 5200 translation is surprisingly poor, especially as the XL/XE version looks so great. The 7800 version is definitely the best of the original versions for me. The Master System iteration, which is a conversion of the arcade game not the Apple II original, is superb and one of my favourite games on that machine.
I think the VIC-20 version was a bit too ambitious for the hardware. The Atari 5200 translation is surprisingly poor, especially as the XL/XE version looks so great. The 7800 version is definitely the best of the original versions for me. The Master System iteration, which is a conversion of the arcade game not the Apple II original, is superb and one of my favourite games on that machine.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TrekMD on January 28, 2013, 20:26:05 PM
Post by: TrekMD on January 28, 2013, 20:26:05 PM
Yes, it's interesting to see the difference between the original game and the arcade and the to see home versions that are translation of the arcade instead of the original. This game has just gone through the entire gamut from original home computer game, to arcade, back to home game. 
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 28, 2013, 22:41:20 PM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 28, 2013, 22:41:20 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"Always been a big fan of Choplifter so good to see this!
I think the VIC-20 version was a bit too ambitious for the hardware. The Atari 5200 translation is surprisingly poor, especially as the XL/XE version looks so great. The 7800 version is definitely the best of the original versions for me. The Master System iteration, which is a conversion of the arcade game not the Apple II original, is superb and one of my favourite games on that machine.
I can only echo these thoughts and add...
Vic 20 version does suffer from some nasty sprite flicker.C64 version looked quite poor compared to the 800 XE version.
SNES Choplifter 3 is a system fav.of mine.
Apocalypse on Amiga which was a then modern take on Choplifter, looked superb but played like a brick.
I did try the 360 demo.of Choplifter HD, hated itNot a patch on the orig.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: onthinice on January 29, 2013, 01:32:29 AM
Post by: onthinice on January 29, 2013, 01:32:29 AM
Another great title. Never played the Vic-20 version. I do like the Sega Master and 7800 versions.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: 108 Stars on January 29, 2013, 03:21:12 AM
Post by: 108 Stars on January 29, 2013, 03:21:12 AM
My SEGA-heart races here, as I have to give double credit to their systems in case of Choplifter.
First of all the SG-1000-version seems to be the best of the older generation system versions. It looks pretty good and even has music.
For the more modern systems I would also give my vote for the SMS; it has the most detailed visuals. Also, and funny enough the older versions mostly had that effect, but the 7800 and NES omitted it: The 3D scrolling blocks on the ground, that move in perspective. I made a pic of two SMS shots to show what I mean, on the left when the chopper is far away, on the right when he's past the middle of teh screen.
(http://www7.pic-upload.de/29.01.13/ke4upa6pnrgx.png) (//http)
It's strange that even the 5200 has that nice effect, but of the later versions only the SMS retains it.
First of all the SG-1000-version seems to be the best of the older generation system versions. It looks pretty good and even has music.
For the more modern systems I would also give my vote for the SMS; it has the most detailed visuals. Also, and funny enough the older versions mostly had that effect, but the 7800 and NES omitted it: The 3D scrolling blocks on the ground, that move in perspective. I made a pic of two SMS shots to show what I mean, on the left when the chopper is far away, on the right when he's past the middle of teh screen.
(http://www7.pic-upload.de/29.01.13/ke4upa6pnrgx.png) (//http)
It's strange that even the 5200 has that nice effect, but of the later versions only the SMS retains it.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TL on January 29, 2013, 03:25:19 AM
Post by: TL on January 29, 2013, 03:25:19 AM
What you are talking about I think is the parallax scrolling effect, which the 7800 does have and it's very good too.
You can see it at 0:23 in this video, the 7800 version uses Atari Fuji symbols instead of blocks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDIAxMseG0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDIAxMseG0)
You can see it at 0:23 in this video, the 7800 version uses Atari Fuji symbols instead of blocks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDIAxMseG0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeDIAxMseG0)
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 29, 2013, 10:37:22 AM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 29, 2013, 10:37:22 AM
Reading through Crash Nov.'84 issue:
Pioneer by Atlantis.Looked like a basic Scramble clone, with a Choplifter style chopper, but then reading on saw what made it different was there were humans, waving on the ground who you could winch to saftey.
Game got overall score of 67%
Any Speccy owners ever played it?.
Pioneer by Atlantis.Looked like a basic Scramble clone, with a Choplifter style chopper, but then reading on saw what made it different was there were humans, waving on the ground who you could winch to saftey.
Game got overall score of 67%
Any Speccy owners ever played it?.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: 108 Stars on January 29, 2013, 13:46:33 PM
Post by: 108 Stars on January 29, 2013, 13:46:33 PM
@Laird
Good eyes you have there, the effect is there indeed. I apologize.
BTW I know parallax scrolling, I'm just not sure this is it since it's all in the lower half of the screen; I am not sure it is parallax technically, it could be line scrolling or whatever the Street-Fighter-II-3D-floor is based on; that's why I did not use a specific term.^^
Good eyes you have there, the effect is there indeed. I apologize.
BTW I know parallax scrolling, I'm just not sure this is it since it's all in the lower half of the screen; I am not sure it is parallax technically, it could be line scrolling or whatever the Street-Fighter-II-3D-floor is based on; that's why I did not use a specific term.^^
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TL on January 29, 2013, 22:59:50 PM
Post by: TL on January 29, 2013, 22:59:50 PM
Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"Reading through Crash Nov.'84 issue:
Pioneer by Atlantis.Looked like a basic Scramble clone, with a Choplifter style chopper, but then reading on saw what made it different was there were humans, waving on the ground who you could winch to saftey.
Game got overall score of 67%
Any Speccy owners ever played it?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKH7--YY__Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKH7--YY__Q)
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 00:07:20 AM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 00:07:20 AM
Cheers Laird.
Looks like you were rescuing giants in that game.
How about some Atari love? Hijack, English software-Choplifter on a m**her f**kin train!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlEqXa0qees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlEqXa0qees)
Looks like you were rescuing giants in that game.
How about some Atari love? Hijack, English software-Choplifter on a m**her f**kin train!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlEqXa0qees (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlEqXa0qees)
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TL on January 30, 2013, 00:17:19 AM
Post by: TL on January 30, 2013, 00:17:19 AM
That game looks pretty cool! I want to try that out now!
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 00:20:43 AM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 00:20:43 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"That game looks pretty cool! I want to try that out now!
Thought you might like it.English Software came out with 'the goods' time and time again, love the idea of it being set around a train.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 00:53:08 AM
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 00:53:08 AM
I like how it crashed behind the tree.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:02:10 AM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:02:10 AM
'Stick Man Rescue' PSP/PS3 Mini
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvFzbT08Isk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvFzbT08Isk)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvFzbT08Isk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvFzbT08Isk)
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:07:34 AM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:07:34 AM
Saucerlifter (PC and now iOS)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEga8kXIp9w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEga8kXIp9w)
Chap doing voice over does sound a bit like a certain felt puppet frog!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEga8kXIp9w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEga8kXIp9w)
Chap doing voice over does sound a bit like a certain felt puppet frog!
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 01:11:49 AM
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 01:11:49 AM
Nice VTOL craft! Simple and Brilliant at the same time. Thanks for sharing Rogue Trooper!!!!
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:15:04 AM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:15:04 AM
Quote from: "onthinice"Nice VTOL craft! Simple and Brilliant at the same time. Thanks for sharing Rogue Trooper!!!!
My humble pleasure.Far better than Choplifter HD and bloody cheaper to boot.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 01:16:01 AM
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 01:16:01 AM
I may get banned but Sony PSP rules!
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:18:10 AM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 30, 2013, 01:18:10 AM
Quote from: "onthinice"I may get banned but Sony PSP rules!
IF you do, i'll be right behind you, i own 4 of the little mites.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 01:19:31 AM
Post by: onthinice on January 30, 2013, 01:19:31 AM
HA! 
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TrekMD on January 30, 2013, 02:04:43 AM
Post by: TrekMD on January 30, 2013, 02:04:43 AM
I like that Hijack game!Â
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TL on February 13, 2013, 20:03:49 PM
Post by: TL on February 13, 2013, 20:03:49 PM
I wish the Lynx version had been finished and released:
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/Choplifter2_zps8a9c6efb.jpg) (http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/Choplifter_zps6641e88d.gif)
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/Choplifter2_zps8a9c6efb.jpg) (http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/Choplifter_zps6641e88d.gif)
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TrekMD on February 14, 2013, 01:05:27 AM
Post by: TrekMD on February 14, 2013, 01:05:27 AM
It was looking nice. Is this a lost rom as well?
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TL on February 14, 2013, 01:20:01 AM
Post by: TL on February 14, 2013, 01:20:01 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"It was looking nice. Is this a lost rom as well?
Yep
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: TrekMD on February 14, 2013, 01:23:25 AM
Post by: TrekMD on February 14, 2013, 01:23:25 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"Quote from: "TrekMD"It was looking nice. Is this a lost rom as well?
Yep :-[
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on March 07, 2013, 15:21:52 PM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on March 07, 2013, 15:21:52 PM
Thread bump.
Amiga/ST Choplifter reboot type game by Rainbow Arts:
Dyter-07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1nak-OkaJw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1nak-OkaJw)
Amiga/ST Choplifter reboot type game by Rainbow Arts:
Dyter-07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1nak-OkaJw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1nak-OkaJw)
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: onthinice on March 17, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
Post by: onthinice on March 17, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
Like!!!! Kept the simple gameplay, but added a nice change of islands and sea action.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on March 18, 2013, 20:42:36 PM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on March 18, 2013, 20:42:36 PM
Quote from: "onthinice"Like!!!! Kept the simple gameplay, but added a nice change of islands and sea action.
:-) Glad someones still reading this thread.
I'll keep updating with any more gems i stumble across.
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: onthinice on March 20, 2013, 00:09:04 AM
Post by: onthinice on March 20, 2013, 00:09:04 AM
Thanks Rogue Trooper!
Title: Re: Let's compare Choplifter!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 21, 2013, 21:55:50 PM
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 21, 2013, 21:55:50 PM
Thread bump:
Glory Days II:Brotherhood Of Men (DS)-Helicopter lets you pick up POW's and drop troops in to capyure enemy HQ's, clearly inspired by Choplifter (and decent game to boot it appears).
Glory Days II:Brotherhood Of Men (DS)-Helicopter lets you pick up POW's and drop troops in to capyure enemy HQ's, clearly inspired by Choplifter (and decent game to boot it appears).