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Retro Console Gaming => Commodore Chat => Topic started by: Alberto 2K on October 26, 2012, 12:01:34 PM

Title: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on October 26, 2012, 12:01:34 PM
Hi guys, I recently bought one of these and I would like to ask you a couple of things.

In your opinion which are the best games for the system? I did a tiny list with Frontier and Super Skidmarks as my first must have titles but I never had any of the Amiga computers so I'm a bit lost..

I read that it's possible to attach an Amiga 2000 keyboard, Amiga compatible mouse and a floppy disk drive, any of you have this set up? Is it possible to play all the amiga games or just the 1200 ones??


Thanks in advance! ;)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on October 26, 2012, 13:53:54 PM
I believe its possible to play any Amiga games on it with the right attachments but there are several Amiga experts on here so I will wait for them to answer.

Games wise anything by The Bitmap Brothers, Team 17 or Sensible Software is good for a start!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: dougtitchmarsh on October 26, 2012, 18:52:20 PM
Super Stardust is definitely worth trying for the CD32.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on October 26, 2012, 19:21:39 PM
Quote from: "Alberto 2K"
Hi guys, I recently bought one of these and I would like to ask you a couple of things.

In your opinion which are the best games for the system? I did a tiny list with Frontier and Super Skidmarks as my first must have titles but I never had any of the Amiga computers so I'm a bit lost..

I read that it's possible to attach an Amiga 2000 keyboard, Amiga compatible mouse and a floppy disk drive, any of you have this set up? Is it possible to play all the amiga games or just the 1200 ones??


Thanks in advance! ;)

My top 20 would be;

Pinball fantasies nice Aga version with cd music
Super stardust
Beneath a steel sky with speech
Simon the sorcerer with speech
Banshee
Cannon fodder great on any system!
Fightin spirit decent beu
Flink
Gloom
Guardian
Gunship 2000
Int sensible soccer
Liberation
Nick fados golf
Pinball illusions
Roadkill
Shadow fighter
Theme park
Ultimate Super skidmarks
Worms

And microcosm is worth a quick play, even if to just see the amazing intro and graphics!

I have a blog post I made ages ago which list every cd32 game made with what extras it has over the Amiga version http://theamigacd32.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://http)

Regarding the keyboard yes you can, I used to have a cdtv keyboard, mouse and disk drive hooked up looked nice all in black! Any Amiga mouse will work.
The easiest way just to play without an expensive sx1 unit is buy a disk drive that sits on top of the cd32 they are sold on eBay every now and again, and yes it will play most ECS and Aga games, but you can't just plug a disk drive in the cd32 as it doesn't have a parallel port as standard.

Edit:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Commodore-Amiga-CD32-SX1-Paravision-CD32-to-A1200-/120894817131?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item1c25e4836b (http://http)

Here's the sx1 unit which plugs into the back of the cd32, as you can see they are expensive are rarely drop below £200, but they do offer memory expansion, hdd or faster CPUs on some models....the other and cheaper option....
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search.pl?product=&company=analogic&amiga=&intf=&mid=&base=dec&pid= (http://http)
Is this analogic drive which also plugs in the back but is only that a disk drive, not on eBay ATM but go for around £50 when they are.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on October 26, 2012, 19:36:01 PM
Only ever played Alien Breed: Tower Assault on one.. Would like to pick one up myself one day..
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on October 26, 2012, 21:09:24 PM
Thank you very much for you responses pals! :)

I will take a look to some of the games of your top 20, I have some of them on the Jaguar but I'm sure these are better versions as they're the original versions, Theme Park for example is almost unplayable there when you reach high attendance... Battleship 2000 comes along with the console. :D
Those SX1-SX32 are way out of my range, with that prices is better to buy directly a 1200...

This is a really interesting console. :)


@zaipy: Some years ago the Amiga CD32 were at 80-100Ä in brand new condition on eBay, as with many other things I thought they were going to be available forever at that price... I regret a lot not buying one then as today prices are much higher...


Thanks again to all for your inputs, I appreciate them much!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on October 26, 2012, 21:28:24 PM
Zaipy, I forgot to tell you that here's a CD32 that it's still at a nice price and comes with a lot of games:

http://www.ebay.es/itm/160907829228?ssP ... 1062wt_932 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/160907829228?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_1062wt_932)

I was going to bid on it but I finally decided to buy another one as the shipping to Spain is very expensive.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on October 26, 2012, 21:35:23 PM
Thanks for your comments!
Btw Simon the sorcerer and btss for that matter are both playable without a mouse, though in the long run its well worth getting a mouse!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on October 27, 2012, 18:10:45 PM
Yeah that is some awesome stuff Jay. How you never had a huge site dedicated to retro is beyond me with all your blog sites and so on.

Anyway cheers for that eBay link fella. Whacked a bid in. See what happens.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on October 27, 2012, 21:58:26 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Yeah that is some awesome stuff Jay. How you never had a huge site dedicated to retro is beyond me with all your blog sites and so on.

Anyway cheers for that eBay link fella. Whacked a bid in. See what happens.
Lol true, I did make other sites that no longer are around sadly, nowadays I'm playing more rather than writing or learning HTML!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on October 28, 2012, 18:26:30 PM
As offered before.. you know your welcome here and more mate..

I am still winning that bid alberto... ;)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on October 29, 2012, 12:45:03 PM
Did you finally won the auction zapiy? If not take a look on eBay uk, there some of them there. :)

Are these internal HDs compatible with the CD32 or are just for the computers?

http://www.ebay.es/itm/Amiga-A600-1200- ... 799wt_1282 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/Amiga-A600-1200-4-GB-Gamers-CF-HDD-Demos-Hard-Drive-/140873208281?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item20ccb291d9#ht_15799wt_1282)


Can't wait to receive it!!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on October 29, 2012, 16:18:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NgInZCp ... ure=relmfu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NgInZCp9QI&feature=relmfu)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jFYlrbpL6E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jFYlrbpL6E)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on October 29, 2012, 16:46:49 PM
I missed out on it. Was not willing to go as high as it ended up selling for. Will keep looking, I am sure I will get a bargain.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 29, 2012, 18:52:20 PM
Some really cool looking games in that video. I imagine finding a NTSC version is pretty hard though. What exactly is the story on the CD32 in North America? I thought I read that it wasn't released in the US because of copyright but they did release it in limited numbers in Canada. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on October 29, 2012, 18:55:38 PM
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"
Some really cool looking games in that video. I imagine finding a NTSC version is pretty hard though. What exactly is the story on the CD32 in North America? I thought I read that it wasn't released in the US because of copyright but they did release it in limited numbers in Canada. Is that correct?

The CD32 is multi-region I believe, the console has a region select in the bios I think. So technically there isn't any NTSC games.

I heard that the machine was all ready for the North American release when Commodore went bust and there was loads of units stuck in a warehouse somewhere. I heard something about a number making it into Canada too.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 29, 2012, 21:17:42 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"
Some really cool looking games in that video. I imagine finding a NTSC version is pretty hard though. What exactly is the story on the CD32 in North America? I thought I read that it wasn't released in the US because of copyright but they did release it in limited numbers in Canada. Is that correct?

The CD32 is multi-region I believe, the console has a region select in the bios I think. So technically there isn't any NTSC games.

I heard that the machine was all ready for the North American release when Commodore went bust and there was loads of units stuck in a warehouse somewhere. I heard something about a number making it into Canada too.

Just checked out Wikipedia and according to them it was released in Canada but a patent lawsuit kept it out of the US. Also they too mention a warehouse full of units meant for the US. If they are multi region though I guess any console would do with a power convertor.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on October 29, 2012, 21:25:36 PM
I've seen those vids a couple of times, I think it's a nice review explaining how it can be upgraded.

Sorry to hear that zapiy, seriusly take a look on eBay UK, that's a paradise for the CD32. On eBay Spain there are just five auctions for items for this console and I'm not joking!!

@Shadowrunner:
I read that you can change the region of the game (not the video output) starting the console with a mouse plugged and pressing both buttons but I'm sure somebody will tell you better.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on October 29, 2012, 22:56:03 PM
Nice vids' that German? Bloke had a strangely relaxing voice, makes a change from a whiny yank!

Alberto...the CD32 had the same 2mb ram as the A1200.
And yes Frontier is jerky on anything less than powerful Amiga or PC.
Those hdds don't yet work in the cd32 though I think their are people trying to either replace the cd drive and boot straight from the hdd, but there's lots of modding involved, otherwise you still need a sx1/32 to attach the hdd to.
Best to just stick to cd games for the cd32 or get an A1200 and cf hdd for disk games.

There is actually a couple of NTSC only games that are probably hard to get hold of, one being Diggers, the other Oscar, both being bundled with the console in the UK, but had a retail release overseas in cardboard cases.

Edit found the NTSC Diggers box
http://cd32-allianz.de/software/review?id=103&type=CD32%20Games (http://http)

Oscar
http://cd32-allianz.de/software/review?id=238&type=CD32%20Games (http://http)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 30, 2012, 00:00:30 AM
Quote from: "Alberto 2K"


@Shadowrunner:
I read that you can change the region of the game (not the video output) starting the console with a mouse plugged and pressing both buttons but I'm sure somebody will tell you better.

Yeah after reading more they mention that mouse trick but even doing that if you try using a pal system on a ntsc tv the picture will be black and white.  Guess that means if I ever want one I have to find one of the ntsc consoles, I can just imagine what they go for on ebay! 
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on October 30, 2012, 00:29:30 AM
Don't you have TV's over there that can recieve both signals? On my TV I can just go into the menu and select NTSC so I can play my US 2600 games properly.

Or use it with a monitor perhaps?
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 30, 2012, 01:24:04 AM
They do make them but I don't think they're very common. I've never had a tv that had that option anyway.  To be honest I've never thought to look for one, maybe somebody else on here has a better idea.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on October 30, 2012, 08:17:43 AM
Well it wouldn't be possible on a standard US tv as they use 525 scanlines vs 625 pal tvs, so whilst we can reduce and play ntsc games , its not possible for them to increase without a compatible tv.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on October 30, 2012, 12:29:16 PM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Well it wouldn't be possible on a standard US tv as they use 525 scanlines vs 625 pal tvs, so whilst we can reduce and play ntsc games , its not possible for them to increase without a compatible tv.

Oh yeah I understand that but I just wondered if that had TV's there that have both.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: onthinice on October 30, 2012, 13:13:53 PM
Always wanted an Amiga CD32. Great info! I will probably never own one but it is nice to think about.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on October 30, 2012, 21:19:02 PM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Nice vids' that German? Bloke had a strangely relaxing voice, makes a change from a whiny yank!

Alberto...the CD32 had the same 2mb ram as the A1200.
And yes Frontier is jerky on anything less than powerful Amiga or PC.
Those hdds don't yet work in the cd32 though I think their are people trying to either replace the cd drive and boot straight from the hdd, but there's lots of modding involved, otherwise you still need a sx1/32 to attach the hdd to.
Best to just stick to cd games for the cd32 or get an A1200 and cf hdd for disk games.

Thanks for the input, I read too many things about Amiga computers and I'm a bit confused sometimes!  :-
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on November 01, 2012, 19:28:26 PM
Missed out on another one today.. I am determined before they go well over what i can justify paying for one.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on November 02, 2012, 23:44:40 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Missed out on another one today.. I am determined before they go well over what i can justify paying for one.
Patience mate, here are another two auctions:

http://www.ebay.es/itm/110970617062?ssP ... _500wt_949 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/110970617062?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_500wt_949)

http://www.ebay.es/itm/281015249763?ssP ... _670wt_932 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/281015249763?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_670wt_932)

I'm sure that sooner or later you will find one, you just need to wait to the apropiate prey.  :)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on November 03, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
Cheers. I will get on. Needs to be quick or it will have to wait till after Xmas.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on November 05, 2012, 11:03:34 AM
Guys, I received today the CD32 and I'm sad to say that it is not working...


The disc spins and the lens sounds lke trying to read but it doesn't read the CDs. I realized that the console I received doesn't have any screws, ANY OF THEM!!!! WTF!!! :o

Also the controller has the D-pad loose and it rotates, is this normal?? I also realized that it misses a couple of screws too...

I wrote the seller and I'm waiting for a response, I hope he gives me a solution, I'm really angry at the moment as it wasn't a bargain. >:(


BTW, this is the seller and the console I bought:

http://www.ebay.es/itm/121005176915?ssP ... 1227wt_754 (http://www.ebay.es/itm/121005176915?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649#ht_1227wt_754)


May any of you tell me who is a reputable seller for Amiga in general and CD32 in particular? I would like to avoid this situations as much as possible.

I will let you know what he says but I wouldn't recommend this seller.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on November 05, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
Wow, that is shocking!  :(

Make sure you file a complaint with eBay!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on November 05, 2012, 13:08:11 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Wow, that is shocking!  :(
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on November 05, 2012, 18:21:35 PM
That's poor. The guy maybe genuine in he may know nothing about it but to be fair I check everything before selling, even stuff i know little about.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Alberto 2K on November 05, 2012, 23:12:19 PM
Well, this guy has an Amiga related store, it's not that he don't know about it..

He even respond a couple of times (and a third response arrived saying the same!) saying that the damage could have been caused during transit, that these machines are old, the postman does not treat the package well etc... but I never saw a postman unscrewing all the screws of a console and part of the controller ones. He must think I was born yesterday or something.

He's willing to send some screws (yes!) and a lens replacement but if I accept, change it and it does not work again I'm afraid he's going to say that I damaged the console. As I said I can't trust in an Amiga store that sends the machines without screws. When I think about it I don't know if to laugh or to cry... :'(
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on November 05, 2012, 23:14:48 PM
That is terrible. Make sure you leave him negative feedback!!!!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: onthinice on November 06, 2012, 16:13:26 PM
Hope things work out Alberto.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on December 03, 2012, 21:35:13 PM
Just picked one up, just the console. No controllers or psu for £22.

Hope it works ok once I get the other bits.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on December 03, 2012, 21:50:20 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Just picked one up, just the console. No controllers or psu for £22.

Hope it works ok once I get the other bits.

Bummer because CD32 controllers are REALLY expensive from what I hear
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 03, 2012, 21:55:19 PM
The pro controllers are yes, the standard albeit crappy ones aren't too much, usually better getting a system with controllers as works out cheaper...

Bloody ebay is getting on my nerves with the stupid prices now, cd32 games on their now for £520! Who the fuck do these sellers think they are..Slightest news of a rare game and they boost the price to stupid levels...
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Greyfox on December 03, 2012, 22:50:48 PM
:D
(http://www.ripoffreport.com/Owner_c379cf19-fe93-4023-b9c7-616c46969735/Item_0158a5b3-d3d1-465e-95c6-1c9b4f6b8ad6/Attachment.ashx)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on December 03, 2012, 23:12:13 PM
Does that refer to the CD32, the controller, those sellers or all of them?  ;D
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Greyfox on December 03, 2012, 23:21:25 PM
The controller and rip off me chants only, the console itself is great, but the CDrom drive is dog slow, only 2x not fast enough .
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 03, 2012, 23:32:46 PM
To be fair 2x was the fastest drives around at the time, even the Neo Geo CD released in 1994 in Europe had a 1x drive!
But yeah disappointing C= USA dragged the rest of the company under, certainly didn't see enough support for the cd32 after the big C went, would have loved to add that 030 add on card to my setup!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on January 31, 2013, 12:47:15 PM
To save hijacking Atari threads, thought I'd start a proper CD32 thread (sorry if there's already one)
To carry on from the other thread, that most CD32 games were Amiga ports, yes that's correct in most cases but a few games were CD32 only/or hit the machine first before being ported back to the A1200.

Microcosm - CD32 Amiga only
Litil Divil - CD32 Amiga only
Castles 2 - CD32 Amiga only
Diggers - CD32 first before A1200 port
The Final Gate - CD32 Only
Flink - CD32 Amiga only.
Guardian - CD32 first before A1200 port
Labyrinth of time - CD32 Amiga only
Liberation - Captive 2 - CD32 first before A1200 port.
Nick Faldos Golf - CD32 verson only AGA version.
Pirates Gold! - CD32 Amiga only.
Ultimate Body Blows - CD32 only package.
Roadkill - CD32 first before A1200 port.
CD32 Sports Football - CD32 only
Wendetta 2175 - CD32 Only
Defender of the crown 2 - CD32/CDTV only

Other games were developed in parallel with the A1200 version I.e Banshee even though people think its still a port when it's not.

Obviously loads of games had more levels, intros, cd music and quicker loading than the Amiga original that added to the overall experience. Games like Simon the sorcerer and Beneath a steel sky added speech to the adventures that could never be done on floppy disks.

The cancelled CD32 games list has over 100 games that makes for sad viewing too.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on January 31, 2013, 12:49:58 PM
I was about to suggest this so well done Jay  8)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on January 31, 2013, 13:00:07 PM
Here's a quote from a mag who saw footage of the CD32 version of Magic Carpet, there was a prototype of a A1200 version minus the texture mapping, hence the reason for a CD32 only version which uses the Akiko chip.

It does make you wonder if Bullfrog did pull off some amazing feat to get it running on the CD32, sadly until footage or a build ever gets released we shall never know. After Commodore went bankrupt in 94 Bullfrog stopped all Amiga development straight away (Mindscape published the CD32 ports of Theme Park and Syndicate in early 95) so the game was never complete enough to release.

"MAGIC CARPET - Bullfrog

From what we have seen, this is going to be one of the most visually stunning of the first batch of releases for the CD32. This is a shoot-em-up seeing the hero flying on the back of a magic carpet blasting the hell out of everything in his path, a-la Space Harrier. What makes Magic Carpet stand out is the spectacular fractal-based texture-mapped landscapes giving the graphics a stunningly realistic quality.

What makes Magic Carpet different from most of the other CD32 titles is that this game will NOT be released on any non-CD Amiga as it relies heavily on the new Akiko chip for converting PC-style graphics to the Amiga. A few very impressive stills from the game in action can be found on the CD give you a taster of what the action should be like."
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 31, 2013, 14:41:16 PM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Here's a quote from a mag who saw footage of the CD32 version of Magic Carpet, there was a prototype of a A1200 version minus the texture mapping, hence the reason for a CD32 only version which uses the Akiko chip.

It does make you wonder if Bullfrog did pull off some amazing feat to get it running on the CD32, sadly until footage or a build ever gets released we shall never know. After Commodore went bankrupt in 94 Bullfrog stopped all Amiga development straight away (Mindscape published the CD32 ports of Theme Park and Syndicate in early 95) so the game was never complete enough to release.

"MAGIC CARPET - Bullfrog

From what we have seen, this is going to be one of the most visually stunning of the first batch of releases for the CD32. This is a shoot-em-up seeing the hero flying on the back of a magic carpet blasting the hell out of everything in his path, a-la Space Harrier. What makes Magic Carpet stand out is the spectacular fractal-based texture-mapped landscapes giving the graphics a stunningly realistic quality.

What makes Magic Carpet different from most of the other CD32 titles is that this game will NOT be released on any non-CD Amiga as it relies heavily on the new Akiko chip for converting PC-style graphics to the Amiga. A few very impressive stills from the game in action can be found on the CD give you a taster of what the action should be like."

Talking of Bullfrog, was'nt there talk of an enhanced, AGA version of Syndicate for the A1200 (running in higher res, more colours etc) which was then canned as it ran too slow (mind you not sure if they did the MCD version of Powermonger, but despite MCD having a faster CPU than the MD, game ran slower than the cart version), this was going to resurface on CD32 and use the Akiko chip?.

Had a brief browse over a few non-released CD32 games:

Lost Eden

Mega Race-MCD got, but looked grainy due to limite colours (plus game not much cop)
Pitfall:Mayan Adventure (guess would have been like Jaguar version, std version just running in 256 colours etc)

Prince Of Persia:S.E (hopefully better than MCD version, which was over-shadowed later by far superior cartridge version)


Agression AGA specific ver. and CD32 Specific version

Dracula CD32 (lucky escape if MCD version is anything to go by)

Inferno CD32 (saw very mixed reviews on PC)

King Of Thieves AGA/CD32 specific versions

TFX AGA.


Got good few Amiga mag scans on HDD/DVD, inc CD32 gamer, will have a browse.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 31, 2013, 15:27:29 PM
Found a few scans of interest, inc interviews with the CD32 designer/V.P of Engineering at the time at CBM, Lew Eggebrecht.

He talked of: Expecting 3rd parties to to add V.R applications and headsets to the CD32, said the greatest challenge of developing the CD32, was acieving cost targets, he saw CD32 as a replacement for the CDTV and it's main competition came from Nintendo+Sega, the MCD being seen as THE device it had to beat (with the AA Chipset+32 Bit CPU giving CD32 between 3-5 times the performance of the MCD).

He also talks of the decision to limit number of early developers for CD32 to 'those who'd ommit resources and had been a long time faithful Amiga developer' (Mike explain why Mike Singleton said whilst he'd love to develop for CD32, he had yet to see 1).

Archer Maclean said the hardware had the potential to do some stunning stuff and he'd def.be looking at working with it (**did he ever auctually start any CD32 specific games though?).


1 of the coders behind Microcosm said, in terms of downsides of CD32' ..you have to keep things Exec.legal, which slows things down a bit.Most games throw the Amiga O/S out the window and generate their own, but we have to stick with this'.

Else here i see:

CD32 Gamer giving Rise Of The Robots 90% at review, Microprose just porting over Xcom, not optimising code, so game crawls along, poor scrolling etc, D.I.D talking of A1200 Inferno being on 9 Floppies, but CD version coming, C.U Amiga talking of AGA TFX in terms of:

Speedy, light sourced, texture mapped F-15's, rolling countrysides+fractual clouds.

So does seem expectations on CD32/A1200 to deliver PC-like gaming experiences was high.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on January 31, 2013, 16:44:26 PM
Yeah a 256 colour high res port of Syndicate for the CD32 was promised too, turned out 2mb ram wasn't enough (needed 4mb)
So I think a lot of hype and developers giving false hope even before the CD32 came out of what it could and couldn't do.

Oh did more digging on Magic Carpet, read game was roughly 30% complete on CD32 running through Akiko chip with texture mapping at only 8fps when development stopped, so far from being playable, but at least proved being possible, who knows if they could have got that speed up enough is something we don't know, but it goes with the other story's that the Akiko chip was good but needed a faster CPU (030 25-40mhz) to get decent speed texture mapped games.
There is a prototype 030 card for the CD32 that would have gone in the back, but never saw the light of day when Commodore went bust.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on January 31, 2013, 17:32:23 PM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Yeah a 256 colour high res port of Syndicate for the CD32 was promised too, turned out 2mb ram wasn't enough (needed 4mb)
So I think a lot of hype and developers giving false hope even before the CD32 came out of what it could and couldn't do.

Oh did more digging on Magic Carpet, read game was roughly 30% complete on CD32 running through Akiko chip with texture mapping at only 8fps when development stopped, so far from being playable, but at least proved being possible, who knows if they could have got that speed up enough is something we don't know, but it goes with the other story's that the Akiko chip was good but needed a faster CPU (030 25-40mhz) to get decent speed texture mapped games.
There is a prototype 030 card for the CD32 that would have gone in the back, but never saw the light of day when Commodore went bust.

Interesting to hear of CD32 Magic Carpet, game originally written for Pentium, PC's i believe.

Dunno IF you saw it on early pages of the Saturn thread on here, but (just to recap), despite being easier to code for (less custom hardware effects) than the Playstation and thus 'easier' to convert PC code to, inital coding of Saturn Magic Carpet had a frame rate of 3 FPS, they then looked at how Saturn hardware 'worked' and recoded game for it's specifics, ensuring game was'nt as CPU intensive as it was and engine was'nt drawing stuff you never saw on-screen and they had frame rate of between 12-20 FPS, depending how chaotic screen was.


Sounds like they took a similar approach with CD32, code for hardware strength's (which is way it should be), but your talking time and resources.Wonder if that 8 fps was best engine was achieving at that point? i.e it would have slowed to a crawl on later, more chaotic levels and thus work abandoned?.

Magic Carpet was also rumoured to be coming to 3DO and Jaguar CD or so some places claim, also any early EDGE readers might recal seeing an early/beta version of the game being in 3rd person, so it looked like a Space Harrier type affair.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on February 01, 2013, 12:15:47 PM
In same C+VG (Dec'94) issue i found the stuff for Laird (Jaguar review thread) i see:

Embryo A1200, 82% CD32 version planned.

Novastorm PC CD 87% MCD+CD32 versions planned.

Megarace 3DO 72% (PC CD 91%, MCD 75%) but no mention of a CD32 version planned.

Football glory Amiga 88% CD32 ver.planned

Magic Carpet PC 96% No other versions planned.

Dreamweb A1200 86% CD32 version planned.
Which would have cast of professional luvvies and voice-over men reading the script.

Also talking of magazines/CD32, there was 'talk' of Rebel Assault coming to CD32 as well as MCD (probably handled it far better, MCD colour pal.really not suited to this game), also that Biosphere started out on CD32, but then switched to PC and was re-named Genewars.

Also some German mag was claiming CBM were trying to secure Day Of The Tentacle on CD32.

Few more C+VG related things, different issue:

Bubble+Squeak, 84% they say was developed soley for CD32, yet reading review,only benifit appears to be 256 colours.

Gunship 2000, 91% 256 colours, faster, smoother update.

Striker-NO improvements on CD32, no even CD music, 75%
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on February 01, 2013, 23:02:45 PM
Yeah I remember well all the CD32 versions planned,so many cancelled games must be one of the highest for a console!
Will try and find a list somewhere.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on February 01, 2013, 23:07:41 PM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Yeah I remember well all the CD32 versions planned,so many cancelled games must be one of the highest for a console!
Will try and find a list somewhere.

Probably second only to the Jaguar!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on February 01, 2013, 23:19:04 PM
http://web.archive.org/web/20080116153652/http://cd32.amiga32.com/ (http://http)

Found a list here, though it only has 70-75 games listed, I have seen one that has around 100.
Again makes for glum reading, and kinda makes you glad the CD32 still got 160+ games considering it was only on the market 7 months before Commodore went belly up.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on February 02, 2013, 15:46:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXrCyXGx4X8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXrCyXGx4X8)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: DreamcastRIP on February 02, 2013, 15:59:52 PM
Possibly one of the cheekiest adverts in gaming history in terms of both the ad's message and, more so, it's chosen location!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on February 06, 2013, 20:04:52 PM
I remember that well! Sega definitely had the last laugh though!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on February 16, 2013, 11:51:27 AM
Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"
Possibly one of the cheekiest adverts in gaming history in terms of both the ad's message and, more so, it's chosen location!

SEGA tried a similar approach years later, but f*cked it up, big time.They sent emails to various magazines at the time of the DC, 'suggesting' some Sega fan had pulled off a nifty bit of graffiti on  Sony's HQ.

A photoshopped image of said building with 'Sony Playstation best before 14/10/99' was included, however SEGA had used the HQ building of Sony MUSIC, NOT SCEE, DOH!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on February 16, 2013, 11:53:50 AM
Mevlut Dinc of Vivid Image had a CD32 game in the works, Hodja, claimed it was the most ambitious game he'd planned, it was then moved to PS1 development, where he planned it to be the 1st real-time 3D adventure on the format, but as he had that and Street Racer 2 on the go, both at the same time, it was shelved.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Rogue Trooper on May 18, 2013, 17:34:35 PM
We've been talking in past of 3D performance of early 32 BIT consoles, until now i'd never seen claims for what the CD32 was capable of, but EDGE had it down (at the time) as 1,000 Polys persecond (10X10 Pixel triangles).
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on June 06, 2013, 21:25:30 PM
Early look at The Guardian from The One:

(http://i.imgur.com/uD3oaQX.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/PWbEJOa.jpg)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on June 07, 2013, 20:18:55 PM
Whoops! I forgot to post the other 2 pages:

(http://i.imgur.com/ruUnDt3.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/8HJqyY0.jpg)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on June 15, 2013, 13:57:35 PM
Big feature from The One:

(http://i.imgur.com/mDYOJcz.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/WgX7Jmv.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/8U5ppWg.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/GYeHrPJ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/k8ofpXV.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/CNTIoP3.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/7D4tu67.jpg)(http://i.imgur.com/BsRwrFd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/e8pBq7F.jpg)(http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4883985_f520.jpg)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on June 15, 2013, 15:05:12 PM
Cheers for that Laird, been a while since I've read them...well 20 years I suppose!
Again sad reading all the games that never happened, would have loved Lionheart and No Second Prize on CD32!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on June 16, 2013, 16:07:03 PM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Cheers for that Laird, been a while since I've read them...well 20 years I suppose!
Again sad reading all the games that never happened, would have loved Lionheart and No Second Prize on CD32!

Yeah I thought you might appreciate that when I came across it!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: DreamcastRIP on September 16, 2013, 21:50:55 PM
Loving this cheeky magazine advert!

(http://www.retrogamingaus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Amiga-CD-32-System-Ad-UK.jpg)

(click to enlarge)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: onthinice on September 22, 2013, 03:42:56 AM
Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"
Loving this cheeky magazine advert!

(http://www.retrogamingaus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Amiga-CD-32-System-Ad-UK.jpg)

(click to enlarge)

Never realized how much it looks like the Genesis/Mega Drive. Cut the system in half leaving the dome with the 32bit and what does it look like?

Maybe this is the love child of the 16-bit Sega and the Sega CD?
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on September 23, 2013, 19:41:49 PM
Amiga CD32 reviews from C&VG:

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/SCAN13_zps1581a9b2.jpg)
(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/SCAN12_zpsf99d2dd9.jpg)(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/SCAN11_zpsb91b2811.jpg)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on February 22, 2014, 01:49:40 AM
Hope to have one of these inbound very soon.. :113:

Can not wait.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Bobinator on February 22, 2014, 03:01:41 AM
Speaking from an outside perspective, I think the whole problem with these is that there's not a whole lot of reason to own one besides convenience. Sure, you've got less loading times and none of that disc swapping that gets me all grumbly when I play Amiga games, but that's pretty much the only reason.

I won't deny that the new music on some of the enhanced versions is pretty great, and some of the FMV cutscenes, as badly animated as they tended to be. But it's sort of like the Sega CD... a lot of the new games on there were just the old games, just with music and an FMV cutscene or two. And that's fine and all, but that's pretty much like 90% of the library. It's a shame it never really caught on before they got more exclusives. More stuff on the level of, say, Sonic CD, or even an FMV game or two would have been pretty nice.

I will say, though, the stuff they picked to make into CD versions were generally good picks, so a lot of the library is pretty fun to play through. Not sure who the dumbass who made Dangerous Streets the pack-in was, though.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on February 22, 2014, 13:09:54 PM
[align=center:3gd5kwyk]The CD32 certainly got some crappy fighters!

Retrogaming in HD: Ultimate Body Blows - Amiga CD32 gameplay (http://http)

Retrogaming in HD: Shadow Fighter - Amiga CD32 gameplay (http://http)

Dangerous Streets - Amiga CD32 gameplay (http://http)[/align:3gd5kwyk]
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Bobinator on February 22, 2014, 13:23:38 PM
You think that an Amiga upgrade that utilized a controller with more than one button for once would be great for fighting games.

...You'd think.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on February 25, 2014, 19:28:21 PM
[align=center:1u3nhn3n]This is a very good video I came across that actually shows what the system can do in the right hands:

Amiga CD32 Showcase (http://http)[/align:1u3nhn3n]
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: dougtitchmarsh on February 25, 2014, 21:28:17 PM
Some great games in there I've never tried. Will have to start looking out for some of them. Thanks for the share Laird.  :113:
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on February 26, 2014, 01:14:04 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"
[align=center:220m6c5x]This is a very good video I came across that actually shows what the system can do in the right hands:

Amiga CD32 Showcase (http://http)[/align:220m6c5x]

Nice one i will get a few of these when i get my CD32.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on March 20, 2014, 20:59:16 PM
[align=center:32lrn220]COMMODORE AMIGA CD32 ( SYSTEM/CONTROLLER/GAMES) PART 1 - a review by the RETRO GAMBLER (http://http)

COMMODORE AMIGA CD32 ( MORE GAMES) PART 2 - a review by the RETRO GAMBLER (http://http)[/align:32lrn220]
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 20, 2014, 22:12:55 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"


Nice one i will get a few of these when i get my CD32.

Did you get one yet?

Brutal Sports Football hasn't been mentioned yet I think, one of the games on CD32 that actually used more than one button and the only football game where it is not only possible to use a players head as the ball but also win the game by killing all the other team lol  :24:

Need to get my A1200 setup and buy a CD drive, not a CD32 I know but its close....

Skip to 1:30 for gameplay (I thought the video had no sound, but no its just a full intro with not a peep from the speakers lol)

Brutal Sports Football for the Commodore Amiga CD32 (http://http)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TL on March 20, 2014, 22:41:27 PM
Fixed the video link for you.

Brutal Sports Football on the CD32 is very similar indeed to the excellent Jaguar version, great game.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: guest5175 on April 17, 2014, 23:34:04 PM
I suppose I should read through the whole thread first but since I didn't :P , I have always been fascinated by Amiga but never owned one. I assume the CD32 is the best way to go in case I ever decided to jump into it?
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on April 17, 2014, 23:49:50 PM
I guess it depends what you want out of it. The games are supposedly the better versions.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: guest5175 on April 18, 2014, 00:07:21 AM
Yeah I don't need another computer for processing anything else so it would be solely for games.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 07, 2014, 08:26:25 AM
More CD32 love coming from these unofficial conversions with new amazing looking level select, control screens, some with added video intros etc

http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspot.co.nz (http://http)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Lorfarius on September 07, 2014, 17:01:10 PM
Its a funny system, often too expensive to convert into a proper A1200 and there's not all that many games to get the full benefit out of buying one.  The controller is awful so its always best to get one from another system add to that by the time you pay out for one you might as well start looking at a HD loaded A1200.  Even after all that I've still owned 2 throughout the years!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 07, 2014, 17:16:20 PM
Quote from: "Lorfarius"
Its a funny system, often too expensive to convert into a proper A1200 and there's not all that many games to get the full benefit out of buying one.  The controller is awful so its always best to get one from another system add to that by the time you pay out for one you might as well start looking at a HD loaded A1200.  Even after all that I've still owned 2 throughout the years!

Well at the time it was the only Amiga CD system to play aga games, well until the unoffical cd drive for the a1200 that still couldnt play all the games and at a combined price of what i paid for my cd32 and sx1....it all depends on which way you look at it!
And buying a new controller has no relevance as you would have to buy one if you owned a A1200 too!

I think in terms of having amiga console that can play amiga games from cd with added intros etc without fiddling around with whdload files etc is good enough for some people, its nice the system still gets the love for stuff like this.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Lorfarius on September 07, 2014, 17:44:44 PM
I don't know why people think there's a lot of messing with WHDLoad?  Its' very easy to run and you can just get full game packs these days.  If you have over 4MB you can easily run anything straight of a HD.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 07, 2014, 18:36:49 PM
Quote from: "Lorfarius"
I don't know why people think there's a lot of messing with WHDLoad?  Its' very easy to run and you can just get full game packs these days.  If you have over 4MB you can easily run anything straight of a HD.
I never said alot of messing, just saves going down that route for some people, dont get me wrong i use whdload myself, but there is something nice booting a cd and playing from that, each to their own etc

But anyway this is CD32 thread, the person has added a Lemmings compilation with new cdxl intro for those interested!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on September 07, 2014, 20:57:11 PM
CD32 looks cooler anyway lol :113:

(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2014/079/0/c/commodore_amiga_cd32_product_shot_recreated_in_3d_by_zgodzinski-d7ax8sj.jpg)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 07, 2014, 23:58:57 PM
Nice render!
I remember being a little dissapointed when they showed the final design off as the mags were showing this off in early 1993..not sure about the joystick though!

(http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amigacdc.jpg)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on September 08, 2014, 02:17:52 AM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Nice render!
I remember being a little dissapointed when they showed the final design off as the mags were showing this off in early 1993..not sure about the joystick though!

(http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/amigacdc.jpg)

Its not mine lol Google is my friend.....

That design there though, urgh dont like that at all :13:
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Bobinator on September 10, 2014, 05:28:00 AM
Good garbagio, how did they expect you to hold that controller? My hand hurts just looking at that.

Also, if the controller WAS released by that, Sega would have probably sued them into individual atoms[/i[ for ripping off their controller so throughly. That's blatant, yo.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 10, 2014, 08:24:53 AM
Haha! Yeah it was just a mockup by Amiga Format, i liked the idea of that cd drive though, obviously Commodore went the cheapest (though most reliable too) route with the lid drive.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AirZonk on September 26, 2014, 18:25:33 PM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
More CD32 love coming from these unofficial conversions with new amazing looking level select, control screens, some with added video intros etc

http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspot.co.nz (http://http)

I am bit confused as to how these work. Can I just burn then to a CDR? If so, will they work on my NTSC CD32 system?
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 26, 2014, 18:37:59 PM
Quote from: "AirZonk"
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
More CD32 love coming from these unofficial conversions with new amazing looking level select, control screens, some with added video intros etc

http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspot.co.nz (http://http)

I am bit confused as to how these work. Can I just burn then to a CDR? If so, will they work on my NTSC CD32 system?
Yeah just burn the iso to a cdr, not sure about ntsc machines, best to ask on their blog.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 26, 2014, 19:19:51 PM
Quote from: "AirZonk"
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
More CD32 love coming from these unofficial conversions with new amazing looking level select, control screens, some with added video intros etc

http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspot.co.nz (http://http)

I am bit confused as to how these work. Can I just burn then to a CDR? If so, will they work on my NTSC CD32 system?

You actually own an NTSC CD32, Wow! I don't know how many of them are out there but it's gotta be pretty rare!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 26, 2014, 19:25:22 PM
It had a limited release in Canada so I'm guessing its one of those.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AirZonk on September 26, 2014, 19:53:05 PM
IIRC correctly Commodore had a warehouse full of the NTSC CD32 systems, but couldn't sell them in USA for some reason. Years later a huge batch of them appeared on eBay. I forget what I paid, but it was a pretty good deal.

A lot of the PAL games don't work properly on it (cut off portion of screen) and some don't run at all.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on September 26, 2014, 22:13:48 PM
I prefer the rumour that the NTSC CD32s were seized by Alien Space Pirates and made to work on a evil galleon of doom instead of the truth of Commodore being a massive bunch of douchebags and not being allowed too import them to the USA but hey I'm just a nutjob!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 29, 2014, 23:45:54 PM
If anyone is wondering how much a new NTSC CD32 will cost you these days, here's one that just ended on the weekend. It's not cheap!

CD32 (http://http)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on September 30, 2014, 07:47:49 AM
They are getting more expensive all the time so I need to jump one ASAP lol.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on September 30, 2014, 12:33:50 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xebHY2_wUbI/VCanGPrbHvI/AAAAAAAAFuQ/t3drirVVcIs/s1600/earok160.jpg)

This is a must have...HERE (http://http)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 30, 2014, 15:19:14 PM
Yeah those guys have done some great packs over the last month.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on September 30, 2014, 20:08:20 PM
Tell me about it. I need to get a decent printer lol.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Greyfox on October 01, 2014, 02:08:40 AM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Tell me about it. I need to get a decent printer lol.

use the one at work silly ;)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on October 01, 2014, 07:36:45 AM
Lol I do for the odd one or two. Not loads though.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: EchoPark on November 15, 2014, 04:36:38 AM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
More CD32 love coming from these unofficial conversions with new amazing looking level select, control screens, some with added video intros etc

http://unofficial-cd32-ports.blogspot.co.nz (http://http)

Cheers for the link, I've heard of the comp cds for the CD32 but only on the forums I lurked in and no one ever posted a link and what nots. I'm only just getting back in to wanting to try and find my Amiga CD32 for my office, I would love to set up the 1200 but alot of my stuff needs to head to storage and I always loved having the CD32 when I was a kid, I mostly just played Jetstrike and BaseJumpers. If I can't find my CD32, may have to jump on the interwebs and look for a decent one to replace it.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on November 17, 2014, 09:37:18 AM
I really want to get one now but the prices have gone through the roof of late.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on November 17, 2014, 10:53:01 AM
Yeah they are stupid money now, for years they went for £25-£40 and now they are £80-£120, retro gaming bumping the prices up!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on December 29, 2014, 23:28:17 PM
I have nearly bagged one of these a couple of times this year and for various reasons they have fell through..

2015 will be the year though.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: avick on December 30, 2014, 08:14:09 AM
I might be looking to offload my CD32 if you're interested.  Got some more retro gaming projects on the horizon that I need to fund.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on December 30, 2014, 09:36:22 AM
Yeah at the right price I am fella,
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Arethius_RGC on December 30, 2014, 16:31:09 PM
I love the CD32, the controler is actuallky not that odd but the Competion Pro is recommended.

The main issue with the console is that it is no console but a consolised A1200.

The storage of your progress is stored in the internal memory which is the RAM and there not that much space.
It happen quite frequnetly that you have to delete your progress in order to launch a game that requires more ram.
That is the biggest issue et the most stupid mistake you can make for a console... Even Atari didi not made this mistake...

I am actually quitte puzzle how they did not thought about that... Now you can buy a SX1 or a promodule then add a Hard Drive and even so I do not know of this will save your progress....

Does anyone has a expension pack for AmigaCD32  and a Hard drive ? Can you test it for me I would be curious about the results.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 30, 2014, 18:17:34 PM
Its still a console, just as a ps4 is a console.

Yes the nv ram of only 1k was a mistake, but more cost cutting by Commodore in its final year, and memory cards were too expensive too use in 1993.

Only CD32 games that were programmed to save to a hdd or floppy drive will allow to i.e Castles 2, otherwise it still tries to save to the nvram.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Arethius_RGC on December 31, 2014, 08:25:54 AM
Ok thank you for the answer at least I got one.

Is there a list of those gamzs some where ?


Send cia Iphone/ Tapatalk
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 31, 2014, 11:41:03 AM
Quote from: "Arethius_RGC"
Ok thank you for the answer at least I got one.

Is there a list of those gamzs some where ?


Send cia Iphone/ Tapatalk
There's no list of which games give you an option to save to floppy/hdd, i know from memory its not very big only a handful.

I did start a list of CD32 games a few years ago which is not complete, but shows what extras were on the disc, memory block size needed etc

http://theamigacd32.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://http)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Arethius_RGC on December 31, 2014, 13:07:30 PM
nice list :) thank you
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on December 31, 2014, 19:39:42 PM
Great list Justin, you really have created some great resource over the years fella.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on January 10, 2015, 21:18:33 PM
Hey, just bagged myself another CD32! Looking forward to burning some of those multi game discs over on amiga forum. All Lemmings on one CD yes please!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on January 11, 2015, 09:41:05 AM
Nice one, where did you get that from pal?
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on January 11, 2015, 13:42:44 PM
Ebay, cost £90 but its hard to pick one up much cheaper nowadays, so i thought sod it!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: avick on January 11, 2015, 17:52:14 PM
If anyone else is looking for one, you can have mine for £90 and I'll even throw in 6 DVD's of goodies!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Greyfox on January 12, 2015, 11:43:20 AM
I think Zapiy is in the position to get one of these..sounds like a good deal, what accessories do you have for it? any pictures always goes a long way :)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on January 12, 2015, 11:57:51 AM
Been offered it mate, sadly I can not justify spending more on retro gear at present.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on January 12, 2015, 17:19:23 PM
Been offered it mate, sadly I can not justify spending more on retro gear at present.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TrekMD on August 16, 2015, 14:18:13 PM
The guys from GameSack have done a review of the CD32 so here is the video for your enjoyment...

[align=center:1kdg2wtd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J_f24jjVIE[/align:1kdg2wtd]
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Greyfox on August 16, 2015, 16:29:32 PM
This is definitely one I'll be watching, I'm curious to see their take on the Amiga cd32. As if Amigajay wants to step, they didn't have many NTSC versions of the console also to note that a lot of the games version original Amiga floppy disk based games, so a bit of background will be required about that too.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: guest5733 on September 25, 2015, 20:53:25 PM
Is there any advantage of a CD32 with floppy drive vs an a1200 other than the CD32's CD drive?

I remember years ago reading about some CD'S that were formatted to run amiga games from the CD32's. Anyone know about those?

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Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on September 25, 2015, 22:01:58 PM
Yo.

Not posted for a while but I think i can offer some input here.

The gamesack review annoyed me a little as although they were right in their criticism of the quality of the games against what the hardware was capable of and its relative obscurity I think they didnt really explore the reasons why. These were mainly around lazy developers unhindered by a lack of quality control  simply repackaging floppy disk games onto CD, and a pretty bizarre advertising campaign (below) coupled with the fact Commodore went bust almost immediately after launch.

So, Amiga + CD Drive or CD32?

Amiga + CD Drive every time. The CD32 does have 1 custom chip over the Amiga but so few games require it I think its a none issue and as a cost comparison an Amiga computer with CD is much more affordable.

That said if you want to pay, the CD32 does have expansions that were released (by 3rd parties, as if Commodore ever knew what to release lol) such as SX1 and SX32 turned it into a fully fledged Amiga computer though best of luck getting either of those boards for a reasonable price (£3.5k for a '030 SX32 on ebay at time of writing).

I do like the console, add a 3rd party pad such as the Competition Pro and its a simple and enjoyable to way to play many old Amiga games.

However even if the mishandled launch, manufacturers bankruptcy and woeful overall catalogue were not working against it I dont think it would have been more successful than it was. The Saturn and Playstation were rumoured and around the corner so console gamers were waiting for those, Amiga owners (like me!) were more interested in expanding their computer than buying a console.

I think the system, handled better and released earlier, could have been as successful other hybrid machines such as the Sharp X68000 but we will never know.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on September 25, 2015, 22:05:00 PM
Yeah the cost of a CD32 with a SX1 module will set you back the best part of £300 if your lucky. I want to be lucky lol but I think I need to settle for a nice A1200. :21:
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on September 26, 2015, 08:26:14 AM
Wish i kept my SX-1, but sold it years ago to fund something at the time. I know back then CD drives for the A1200 werent compatible with all CD32 titles, i dont know if they are now, but yeah its cheaper to get a A1200 for a WHD retro machine, though if you just want some games a CD32 with those multidisk cds are a cheaper way to get into Amiga gaming.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Ben on September 26, 2015, 14:57:32 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"

The gamesack review annoyed me a little as although they were right in their criticism of the quality of the games against what the hardware was capable of and its relative obscurity I think they didnt really explore the reasons why.

I agree with you on that, but they're still 100 times better than the AVGN who will deliberately misrepresent consoles to make his videos work as rants.  I think the GameSack guys try to go into a console blind and that's good sometimes, sometimes not.  I remember a video awhile back where Dave got stuck in a game and gave up rather than look up info online, I'm not sure when they are trying to re-create experiencing a console like back in the day or are just tight on time.  Metal Jesus is probably my favorite reviewer because of that, he will consult people who know more than him about obscure consoles and try to give historical background.  He did one of the more even handed Jag reviews, hopefully he'll get around to the CD-32 at some point.

I enjoyed the video overall though, it's definitely the best CD32 review I've seen.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 05, 2015, 17:39:57 PM
Couldnt see a CD32 thread so i thought id start one.

Anyone own on of these and still using it from time to time?

Ive started a new blog to cover remaking some CD32 jewel case covers for the original games and the unofficial ports.

http://cd32covers.blogspot.co.uk (http://http)

There is also links there to other CD32 sites inc the blog that is doing the unofficial downloads.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TrekMD on December 05, 2015, 23:12:43 PM
Merged your thread with the original CD32 thread.  :) 
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Greyfox on December 06, 2015, 13:51:34 PM
Great little site Justin , cheers for creating it :)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on December 06, 2015, 18:50:09 PM
Great work fella.. You are doing some great stuff again.. :113:
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: Arethius_RGC on December 07, 2015, 05:12:20 AM
Nice thanks for sharing.


Prťsident of the Retro-gaming Connexion.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 07, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
No worries, i love doing them!

I emulate most other platforms but the CD32 isnt the same without CD audio etc and im loving all these fanmade releases with extras and unreleased games.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: MadCommodore on December 21, 2015, 23:06:48 PM
Two must have top quality CD32 games are Lotus Trilogy (the Lotus Turbo Challenge racing games) and Defender of the Crown II (which also works on CDTV). Cannon Fodder is quite fun too with a mouse.

IDK if anyone mentioned it but the CD32 needs an Amiga 4000 not 2000 keyboard because it has a PS2 port not 5 pin DIN like Amiga 1500/2000. Any Amiga mouse and disk drive will work with it too. Remember though that the CD drive takes a few kb of memory so some Amiga 1200 games may not work.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 23, 2015, 18:51:57 PM
28 Reasons why the CD32 had a jolly old 2015! Thanks to everyone involved for keeping the CD32 alive!
Here's to a just as good 2016 of releases!

This year we had (hum to the 12 days of xmas if needs be!) 20 Amiga ports, 3 unreleased games, 2 new home brew games, 2 non Amiga game ports and 1 enhanced CD32..ggamee!

Feb
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* The Legend of Kyrandia - Amiga 500 Port
* Inherit the Earth - Unreleased full English talkie version.

May
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* Jaguar XJ220 - Amiga 500 Port
* Solomon's Key 1 & 2 - Unofficial port of Atari ST game/Rewrite of NES game.

June
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* The Game - new homebrew game.
* Big Red Adventure + Nippon Safes, Inc - Amiga CD port / Amiga 500 port.
* Turrican Anthology - Amiga 500 ports.

Aug
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* Final Odyssey / The Strangers - Amiga CD ports. [Keyboard required]
* Mutant League Hockey - Unreleased A1200 version.
* Kloks' Megapack: Volume 1 - Aunt Arctic Adventure / Duck Tales / Jumping Jack So n / Nebulus / Ninja Warriors / Prince of Persia / Toki - Amiga 500 ports.

Sep
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* Jump, Block, Jump - New homebrew game demo.

Oct
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* Rise of the Robots: Special Edition - Enhanced version with various changes.

Nov
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* Putty Squad - Unreleased A1200 version.
* Aladdin - Amiga 1200 port.
* Jim Power - News of a physical release by Piko

Dec
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* Klok's two game pack - Micro Machines / Marble Madness - Amiga 500 ports.
* Reshoot-A - News of a new physical CD32 game for 2016!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on December 27, 2015, 15:28:29 PM
When you put it like that chap, yes indeed it had an awesome year.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 28, 2015, 19:53:31 PM
Yeah it certainly has, btw a big 2015 collection disk has just been released too, along with Lion King.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on April 09, 2018, 18:43:07 PM
Collection of old adverts for the CD32 i put together here.

https://issuu.com/amigajay/docs/cd32 (https://issuu.com/amigajay/docs/cd32)
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: TrekMD on April 09, 2018, 23:50:49 PM
Really cool!
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: zapiy on April 10, 2018, 11:55:21 AM
I really love them mate.. Nice idea to have loads like that in one place.
Title: Re: Amiga CD32!
Post by: AmigaJay on December 06, 2018, 09:26:23 AM
Couldnt find the thread on my previous CD32 releases, guess it got deleted in the purge, anyway here is my final releases put together as a 3 set Anthology (12 discs), which so far includes around 500 Amiga games, 200 PD games, 400 scene demos amongst other stuff, i won’t be releasing any new seperate discs from now on in, i will just add and update these discs every now and then.

All the iso files, manuals, and artwork to print out is included, all free to download! - https://cd32covers.blogspot.com (https://cd32covers.blogspot.com)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rQrehZG9-fw/W-GonAsL6oI/AAAAAAAAnqc/eAoKdr0kgdkOPW_wUz0sfuxpeTrBP0brgCLcBGAs/s1600/44723381_1711661808960584_6875075578022592512_n.jpg)
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Post by: zapiy on December 08, 2018, 22:21:23 PM
Looks like an epic addition fella, truely awesome work.