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OK, so to continue with the comparison videos, here is another classic compared:  Donkey Kong!  The video just needs D1K added!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxXwJVkZT4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSxXwJVkZT4)

WOW! There sure are a lot of versions there!!! 

Here are a few un-licensed versions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9WmuvP81XQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9WmuvP81XQ)
Killer Gorilla - BBC Micro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKINyiqUdVc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKINyiqUdVc)
Donkey King - Dragon 32

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFglKUn- ... re=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFglKUn-ioI&feature=related)
Donkey King - Tandy CoCo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_h9b0GdbFY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_h9b0GdbFY)
Kong - Sinclair ZX80

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXXmPpB ... ure=fvwrel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXXmPpBzkk&feature=fvwrel)
Crazy Kong - Sinclair ZX81 / Timex 1000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auAtyiiMJwQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auAtyiiMJwQ)
Donkey Kong - Commodore VIC-20

(http://www.atarimania.com/st/screens/kid_kong_munsie_3.gif)
Kid Kong - Atari ST

Brilliant stuff.. Would DK be one of the most replicated games ever?

Looks that

Quote from: "zapiy"Brilliant stuff.. Would DK be one of the most replicated games ever?

Looks that way!  Here is D1K so we are complete:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di2_E4oecVs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di2_E4oecVs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a44g-fGszAo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a44g-fGszAo)

Time well spent!!! Great videos!!!

Quote from: "zapiy"Brilliant stuff.. Would DK be one of the most replicated games ever?

That and Pac-Man.


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Quote from: "zapiy"Brilliant stuff.. Would DK be one of the most replicated games ever?

That and Pac-Man.

Breakout and Space Invaders would like a word

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Quote from: "zapiy"Brilliant stuff.. Would DK be one of the most replicated games ever?

That and Pac-Man.

Breakout and Space Invaders would like a word

LOL  I'm sure!

LOL! True.


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SubQmod did an arcade perfect port of Donkey Kong for the Jaguar by converting the original source code over. I got to play it at Jagfest in 2010 but he sadly never released it and just disappeared from the community. I remember that he actually asked Nintendo's permission to release it and they refused so I suggested he change the Mario sprite to Bentley Bear, change a few other graphics and call it Crystal Kong! He was going to actually do this and I never heard from him again.

Quote from: "The Laird"SubQmod did an arcade perfect port of Donkey Kong for the Jaguar by converting the original source code over. I got to play it at Jagfest in 2010 but he sadly never released it and just disappeared from the community. I remember that he actually asked Nintendo's permission to release it and they refused so I suggested he change the Mario sprite to Bentley Bear, change a few other graphics and call it Crystal Kong! He was going to actually do this and I never heard from him again.

That's too bad.  DK would be an easy game for the Jaguar to handle.    Is there any video of this conversion?

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Quote from: "The Laird"SubQmod did an arcade perfect port of Donkey Kong for the Jaguar by converting the original source code over. I got to play it at Jagfest in 2010 but he sadly never released it and just disappeared from the community. I remember that he actually asked Nintendo's permission to release it and they refused so I suggested he change the Mario sprite to Bentley Bear, change a few other graphics and call it Crystal Kong! He was going to actually do this and I never heard from him again.

That's too bad.  DK would be an easy game for the Jaguar to handle.  :(

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Quote from: "The Laird"SubQmod did an arcade perfect port of Donkey Kong for the Jaguar by converting the original source code over. I got to play it at Jagfest in 2010 but he sadly never released it and just disappeared from the community. I remember that he actually asked Nintendo's permission to release it and they refused so I suggested he change the Mario sprite to Bentley Bear, change a few other graphics and call it Crystal Kong! He was going to actually do this and I never heard from him again.

That's too bad.  DK would be an easy game for the Jaguar to handle.  :(

That sucks.  It would have been nice to at least see it.  You were lucky!

Very Cool! The world could use some more Donkey Kong!

There are some efforts going on on AA right now to make a new version of DK for the 2600.

That is great news! The 2600 version is long overdue.

A video of the new version of Donkey Kong for the 7800 with POKEY sound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ3mjoGljIQ&noredirect=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ3mjoGljIQ&noredirect=1)

Nice! Is this the XM version?

Quote from: "onthinice"Nice! Is this the XM version?

Yes!

Although it is possible to just make a POKEY cart for play on a normal 7800 (like Ballblazer or Commando) as that is the only part of the XM it uses.

Wow! That would be cool without the expense of the add-on.

This version looks nothing like that now.  That one just had POKEY added.  This has now evolved and it has the pie factory screen and a ton of animations and changes to make it much closer to the arcade.    Here is a video for your enjoyment. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... bG0Fa0YGU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hbG0Fa0YGU4)

When this is all done any chance of doing a Donkey Kong review comparison TrekMD? It would be nice to see how all the DK's and remakes compare.

Quote from: "onthinice"When this is all done any chance of doing a Donkey Kong review comparison TrekMD? It would be nice to see how all the DK's and remakes compare.

Hmm, something to think about. 

Thanks! I mean for at least considering the idea.

Quote from: "onthinice"Thanks! I mean for at least considering the idea.

I don't have a ColecoVision to include that version but I can certainly compare all the Atari versions that I have.

I am really curious to see how the Intellivision version stacks up to the Atari ones.

Quote from: "onthinice"I am really curious to see how the Intellivision version stacks up to the Atari ones.

It stacks up very well. 

I know there are reviews out there for everything. I have yet to see updated multi-console reviews. Last ones I knew about were the RTM Many faces of.

This may be better as an article looking at stock vs enhanced versions of the game in different systems. 

Good idea!

I think it's funny how they show the Game Boy version and fail to mention its most important feature: It's a sequel.

See, after you beat the fourth stage, you still have DK fall on his head, and rescue Pauline. This time, though, Donkey Kong just gets up, grabs Pauline and runs off again. Basically, there's... I want to say 80... levels or so about Mario having to get a key to a door while avoiding enemies. It's actually a really good puzzle platformer, which only got one sequel on the GBA.

...Unless everybody knows this, in which case, never you mind.

DK really is one of my all time favourites, but the Atarisoft version for my Vic20 was always too expensive, so I don't really know what it was like? Anyone play it?

I settled for the Anirog Krazy Kong which had the ropiest artwork in history

Not I, but would like to find a reasonable copy someday for the Vic-20.

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Quote from: "onthinice"Thanks! I mean for at least considering the idea.

I don't have a ColecoVision to include that version but I can certainly compare all the Atari versions that I have.

I can make you a video of the game play from a ColecoVision.

Also, has anybody even considered the Donkey Kong for Intellivision by Coleco?  Boy that was awful!  I think it ruined my childhood.

     dZ.

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Quote from: "onthinice"Thanks! I mean for at least considering the idea.

I don't have a ColecoVision to include that version but I can certainly compare all the Atari versions that I have.

I can make you a video of the game play from a ColecoVision.

Also, has anybody even considered the Donkey Kong for Intellivision by Coleco?  Boy that was awful!  I think it ruined my childhood.

     dZ.

That would be helpful! 

And yes, I already reviewed that atrocity!  LOL

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Quote from: "onthinice"Thanks! I mean for at least considering the idea.

I don't have a ColecoVision to include that version but I can certainly compare all the Atari versions that I have.

I can make you a video of the game play from a ColecoVision.

Also, has anybody even considered the Donkey Kong for Intellivision by Coleco?  Boy that was awful!  I think it ruined my childhood.

     dZ.

Wasn't that supposedly so bad that Mattell thought Coleco was trying to sabotage the machine? Looking at the screenshots, I can can certainly see that theory being very possible.

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Quote from: "onthinice"Thanks! I mean for at least considering the idea.

I don't have a ColecoVision to include that version but I can certainly compare all the Atari versions that I have.

I can make you a video of the game play from a ColecoVision.

Also, has anybody even considered the Donkey Kong for Intellivision by Coleco?  Boy that was awful!  I think it ruined my childhood.

     dZ.

Wasn't that supposedly so bad that Mattell thought Coleco was trying to sabotage the machine? Looking at the screenshots, I can can certainly see that theory being very possible.

LOL! Yes, that was the theory.  As far as I know, legend also has it that a couple of the Blue Sky Rangers worked on their own proof-of-concept to show management that they could do a better port, and begged to be allowed to "fix" Coleco's travesty.  They were denied.

    dZ.


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I am glad they disproved that when the released Turbo and Venture. Those two Coleco games really turned out well for the Inellivision.

I think the conspiracy was with DK only!  They must have realized folks were not happy with their port so they allowed for other ports to be better done.  LOL

So, here is an image of what is currently being worked on for a new 2600 version of DK.

(http://www.atariage.com/forums/gallery_ips/gallery/album_885/med_gallery_29575_885_43417.png)

We'll have to wait and see if this can be completed as a new port of the game!

That looks great so far!!! 

It sure does!

Just found out about this NES version which includes the Pie Factory screen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1vO9lS256Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1vO9lS256Y)

Couple more for the list:

Killer Gorilla (Beeb):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqBmvnzJMuE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqBmvnzJMuE)

Champ Kong (PC):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z37vvoP4bDg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z37vvoP4bDg)

I posted Killer Gorrilla on page 1 

Oh yeah, on the second post to boot... totally blind! 

The 2600 version makes it to GAMEStm Conversion Catastrophe (although they DO say the Intellivision was just as bad and Mattel was so ashamed of it, the manufactured the Intellivision II not to play the cartridge).

They say of the 2600 version:

Donkey Kong looks like a cross between the Honey Monster and The Gingerbread man, barrels look like choc chip cookies and that rumour persists that Coleco sabotaged the Atari and Intellivision ports, to make it's console look superior.

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"The 2600 version makes it to GAMEStm Conversion Catastrophe (although they DO say the Intellivision was just as bad and Mattel was so ashamed of it, the manufactured the Intellivision II not to play the cartridge).

They say of the 2600 version:

Donkey Kong looks like a cross between the Honey Monster and The Gingerbread man, barrels look like choc chip cookies and that rumour persists that Coleco sabotaged the Atari and Intellivision ports, to make it's console look superior.

Go read the interview we did here with the actual programmer and see the answer he gave when I posed that rumour to him!

http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/http:/ ... ic.php?t=5 (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5)

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Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"The 2600 version makes it to GAMEStm Conversion Catastrophe (although they DO say the Intellivision was just as bad and Mattel was so ashamed of it, the manufactured the Intellivision II not to play the cartridge).

They say of the 2600 version:

Donkey Kong looks like a cross between the Honey Monster and The Gingerbread man, barrels look like choc chip cookies and that rumour persists that Coleco sabotaged the Atari and Intellivision ports, to make it's console look superior.

Go read the interview we did here with the actual programmer and see the answer he gave when I posed that rumour to him!

http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/http:/ ... ic.php?t=5 (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5)

Maybe you oughta send a link to the GAMEStm office? :-)

Well, the commercial version of DK on the 2600 is going to blown away by the new homebrew version being developed.  Check it out:  DK VCS (//http)

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Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"The 2600 version makes it to GAMEStm Conversion Catastrophe (although they DO say the Intellivision was just as bad and Mattel was so ashamed of it, the manufactured the Intellivision II not to play the cartridge).

They say of the 2600 version:

Donkey Kong looks like a cross between the Honey Monster and The Gingerbread man, barrels look like choc chip cookies and that rumour persists that Coleco sabotaged the Atari and Intellivision ports, to make it's console look superior.

Go read the interview we did here with the actual programmer and see the answer he gave when I posed that rumour to him!

http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/http:/ ... ic.php?t=5 (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5)

So what, they gave him even less time to work on the Intellivision version?

I don't buy it.  Perhaps that was the case for the Atari 2600 (we hear the same things from the makers of the Pac-Man port and the E.T. game), but the Intellivision had more sophisticated hardware.

It really looks like they just gave the project to an intern, for it follows the implementation style of the very old primitive games that were first made for the console in the late 70s--but crappier.

   dZ.

For the record I agree, I think he is just covering his arse so he doesn't look bad.

Quote from: "The Laird"For the record I agree, I think he is just covering his arse so he doesn't look bad.

This!

I came across these two Donkey Kong clones for the Tangerine Oric computer the other day.

The first one is Dinky Kong and the second game is a version of the Nintendo classic that was programmed in just 4k the same as the 2600 conversion! You will also notice that looks and plays almost exactly the same as the Game & Watch version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQz99JjC68g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQz99JjC68g)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fkYA6RmSmU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fkYA6RmSmU)

That 4K Nintendo version is just like a watch game. 

Quote from: "TrekMD"That 4K Nintendo version is just like a watch game.

Yeah as I said it's near identical to the Game & Watch version:

(http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/_ui/images/clubnintendo/slide014.jpg)

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Quote from: "TrekMD"That 4K Nintendo version is just like a watch game.

Yeah as I said it's near identical to the Game & Watch version:

(http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/_ui/images/clubnintendo/slide014.jpg)

I wonder how big that version is on the Game & Watch system. 

So, the talk of the internet today has been this mod of DK where Pauline is the one rescuing Mario!  Looks like a programmer's daughter wanted to play as Pauline, so he was happy to oblige.

[align=center:rh6fxqx4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JeXDNg7scyU[/align:rh6fxqx4]

I heard about that! Very clever indeed! 

Yep, now everyone is hacking every home version to do the same thing!

Nice!

Here is another version of Donkey Kong for the 2600 that was started by iesposta.  You can check out more pictures and some binaries here:  DK 2600 Jumpman. (//http)

[align=center:3h3arig5](https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Lge0qzTWvOY/UWh8wQRlWcI/AAAAAAAASRE/dgd5oY9JK-c/s1035/DK+1.png)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3hIR0eMulDQ/UWh8wpD6nnI/AAAAAAAASRA/h-Lsnuvm5As/s1035/DK+2.png)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-SEBrXVFgO0k/UWh8w70B4lI/AAAAAAAASQ4/JKoIL8EQYCc/s1035/DK+3.png)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-64LYWG5lO8A/UWh8xGsvQvI/AAAAAAAASQ8/Iilvp55GbF8/s1035/DK+4.png)
[size=80]Posted with permission from iesposta.[/size][/align:3h3arig5]

Thanks TrekMD! This how I always pictured the 2600 version when it was released new.

Nice work there! 

Will be interesting to see how this compares to the other version being made.

I don't know if he's going to continue working on this one but his effort so far looks great. 

Does look good and like Laird said it will be very interesting to see where this goes and how it compares.

Development on this version has stopped, I believe.  The other version is still moving forward, though.  Both attempts are quite impressive, however. 

Quote from: "TrekMD"Development on this version has stopped, I believe.  The other version is still moving forward, though.  Both attempts are quite impressive, however.

That's a shame, did he say why?

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Quote from: "TrekMD"Development on this version has stopped, I believe.  The other version is still moving forward, though.  Both attempts are quite impressive, however.

That's a shame, did he say why?

He mostly makes demos and doesn't usually finish the games. 

It's been a while since anything got posted here but I wanted to revive the thread posting these...

So, here is another comparison video for Donkey Kong that looks at 8-Bit versions...

All the versions look good standing still. Disappointed with the Vic-20 version. Never tracked a copy down and if I ever find the cart it may not get played much. lol!

I do play the Atari computer version the most. My favorite always will be the Coleco tabletop version. Lot of memories and when my friends were playing the 2600, old ice was taking his DK action everywhere. Ha Ha! Both had just 2 screens but the tabletop was portable as long as the batteries held. I still have the power supply with the hollow C batteries. Ok the batteries are missing but the power supply still works. Lol!

I think I got to play that tabletop version once.  It got frustrated with hit!  LOL

Just watched this comparison video that organizes it in "order of greatness."  What do you think? 

I'm glad i've read this thread. I'm a big fan of DK and interesting to see the various Youtube videos. What muddies the ground are the later remakes versus the originals - people often get misled what garbage some of the early versions were.

As original's conversions go I still think the Colecovision and the NES ones are my favorite. The Atari remake for the 2600 is stunning too and my favorite remake by a mile.

I'd seen most of them running in the past but the Amstrad version looked good. I'd like to try that version for real.

Yes, I think the homebrew versions for the 2600, 7800 and Intellivision are very impressive and really bring the game a new level.  The 7800 XM version has to be most arcade accurate version out there.

This thread has had any action in a long time but while I was writing an article for Old School Gamer I noticed something interesting.  The 7800 and NES versions of this game look surprisingly similar.  The 7800 does widen the screen more and the colors are different but the overall look of the levels is quite similar.  The scores are done in a similiar style, the hammers are on the same positions, Pauline is on a platform that is lower, etc.  I have to wonder if this had to do with Nintendo's license to Atari for creating the port.