Retro Video Gamer

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This is one of the best games on the NES titles released. So tell us your ultimate NES games and add-ons and RVG will pick a winner.

Or just tell us your experiences with NES, what did you love about it?

Many know that I am not a lover of the NES 

But my favourite game for it has to Double Dragon 2

Was there ever a winner?????

No lol. I never completed the task. Maybe I should do it again now we are busier?

For sure you should do it, sounds like fun. 

I agree!

My ultimate NES game is Ice Climber, so much fun in 2-player!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey3_8dEotS8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey3_8dEotS8)

Seen as I posted some in the SMS thread too . . . .

17 Best Old Nintendo Commercials (//http)

You can tell that imagination was required when playing in any of the retro systems when you look at how the commercials were made. 

Quote from: "zapiy"Or just tell us your experiences with NES, what did you love about it?

You're assuming that those who've played on the NES found something to love about it? Interesting! 

I love the NES, but that's probably because I'm in the U.S. and it really did restart the video game craze.  Until it came along I was playing dated Intellivision or A8 games and drooling over the unobtainable Amiga and STs.  The NES brought awesome looking affordable gaming back.

Actually I started out with an SMS because my friend was selling his.  It was the only thing I'd be able to afford (he let me make payments) so I jumped on it.  The quality was definitely better but the 100s of games for the NES kept me envious.  Finally when I turned 13 I got a part time job and bought my own NES.

My brother and I are collecting all the U.S. NES games.  We're pretty close, there are 800 total and we have about 650, including some of the really rare ones like Cheetahmen 2.  I'll take pics sometime but I know how few NES lovers there are here so I figured there was no hurry

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Having now played a decent amount of games on the NES (around 20 or so), I thought I'd post a few thoughts about it.

I didn't quite know what to expect with the NES. As much as I knew about the Americans really liking it (which I've seen for myself being on twitter), I wasn't expecting great things because of what people here thought.

As it happens, I probably sit somewhere in the middle of the two. The games I've played, I've liked. Not really to the extent that the Americans go on about it, but nothing's really disappointed me either. I like games and there are some good ones.

The hardware itself has been the most annoying part. PAL console that can't be modified - so I had to get an NTSC motherboard and swap it with my PAL one. Composite video output that looks worse than pretty much any other I've ever seen. The only way of modding this was to replace the PPU with a very expensive replacement and do a bit of soldering. The controller - it's not the worst I've used, but it's pretty bad. D-Pad is too small and the controller itself can dig into your hands.

So, while I suppose it's a console I would find hard to recommend because of the hardware issues - for me it's actually turned out alright.

Lots of great memories of NES - even though the PAL version was less than optimal at the time I didn't know any better and so it didn't spoil the experience for me.

SMB, SMB3, Punch Out, Gradius and Battletoads are my favourites - but I'll pick out this great game that was developed by Zed Two with RARE. Solar Jetman - a brilliant gravity based shmup that took the Thrust/Gravitar style of game and pushed it to the limits. Superb game...

Solar Jetman: Hunt for the Golden Warpship - NES Gameplay (//http)

aah...... can't leave it at that.

Can't leave out the great Dropzone - lightening fast (even in PAL) redux of Defender by Archer Maclean.

Drop Zone (NES) Gameplay (//http)



or the excellent port of Boulderdash...clocked up serious hours on this. My girlfriend even played this one with me (now my wife).

Boulder Dash - NES Gameplay (//http)

How does Dropzone on the NES compare to the Atari 400/800 original version and the subsequent conversion for "the less capable Commodore 64"?

Source of quote being the programmer of both computer versions, Archer MacLean -
http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/MACLEAN.HTM (//http)

Loved it so much, bought one for $50 bucks with dozens of games.......just to give it to my niece.....and gladly at that!

That link is really interesting - it seems the original Dropzone on the Atari800 was built to work in PAL - so I guess the PAL NES version would not have been compromised in any way - always thought it ran really smooth. The NES is a 6502 machine too so I guess the port should be pretty close.

I gave my NES to my sister about 10 years ago once I discovered the superb NESTERDC on Dreamcast. I had assumed she had got rid of it but just last week I found out she still has it and had kept the CIB games in pristine condition.....including Dropzone, Boulderdash, SMB3 and Solar Jetman!!!!!

She has been instructed to under no circumstances to give them away or bin them....

Quote from: "TrapZZ"I love the NES, but that's probably because I'm in the U.S. and it really did restart the video game craze.  Until it came along I was playing dated Intellivision or A8 games and drooling over the unobtainable Amiga and STs.  The NES brought awesome looking affordable gaming back.

Actually I started out with an SMS because my friend was selling his.  It was the only thing I'd be able to afford (he let me make payments) so I jumped on it.  The quality was definitely better but the 100s of games for the NES kept me envious.  Finally when I turned 13 I got a part time job and bought my own NES.

My brother and I are collecting all the U.S. NES games.  We're pretty close, there are 800 total and we have about 650, including some of the really rare ones like Cheetahmen 2.  I'll take pics sometime but I know how few NES lovers there are here so I figured there was no hurry :113: Sounds Great!

I'm probably one of the few fans who likes the Nes for the boxed artwork. The games are good and I have fun playing them but the artwork is what amazes me. I also collect them because of the cart designs and colors.

Can't wait to see your pictures!

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"How does Dropzone on the NES compare to the Atari 400/800 original version and the subsequent conversion for "the less capable Commodore 64"?

Source of quote being the programmer of both computer versions, Archer MacLean -
http://www.dadgum.com/halcyon/BOOK/MACLEAN.HTM (//http)

In the 'Making Of...' feature in Edge Archer described the Atari hardware as what made Dropzone work, he could'nt have done it without it (refers to the smooth scrolling the Atari allowed for). Archer refered to getting it onto C64 as a 'challenge' due to the C64's 'inferior' hardware.

The C-64 is not a horrid machine but it's definitely not a A8. The Atari 8bits are superior in just about every
way. Especially when you consider that the A8 chips set is what...3 years older than the C-64? You got to
admit, that's rather lame considering the obsolescence of pretty much any design in the small time allowed
by technological advancement. We are talking months here, even back then.

Quote from: "Gorf"...Especially when you consider that the A8 chips set is what...3 years older than the C-64?

Indeed. A fact so often overlooked by the C64 cheerleaders it seems.

Heck, three years was the same duration time difference between the launches of the ZX Spectrum, Colecovision, Commodore 64, Atari 5200 and Vectrex (all in 1982) relative to the Atari ST and Commodore Amiga (1985)!

I know this is the Nes thread and I like my A400, but the C64 seemed to have more software support. Has anyone ever compared released titles between the A8 and C64? Like the Nes and Sega Master System. The SMS was great but the Nes just had more games.

Quote from: "onthinice"I know this is the Nes thread and I like my A400, but the C64 seemed to have more software support. Has anyone ever compared released titles between the A8 and C64? Like the Nes and Sega Master System. The SMS was great but the Nes just had more games.

Compared technically or games released?

Things written for the A8 (and it's strengths) such as Elktragilde, Dropzone, Rescue On Fract.etc are way ahead of C64 versions, all turned out a bit of a let down when i picked them up on C64 after being an A8 owner, Bounty Bob strikes back was so similar Zzap 64 used the A8 version for review...but were honest about it.

C64 had by far the bigger software support talking as a UK gamer, it was lack of releases that forced me over to the C64, plus if it's technical comparisons, been few videos on here featuring A8 versions, off top of my head:Feud, Green Beret, Arkanoid etc.

A8 coders seemed 'thin on the ground' and lot planned titles never appeared, no Elite, Last Ninja etc.

Thrust looked worse on A8, as did Starquake, Beach Head 2 lacked the speech, Gauntlet looked 'worse' etc.

I'd love to see a few A8 coders from that era interviewed to find out wether a lot of the poorer looking games turned out way they did.Hardware restraints or titles just being seen as a quick n dirty job.

A8 handled '3D' games better than the C64 as C64 had slower CPU, i saw neat graphical effects like Chimera's colour cyling pause mode in the A8 version which was'nt in the C64 version, Encounter i remember playing a lot faster on A8.

Had lost Lynx games, time for some balance, lost Nes game.

Any Captain Blood fans on here? (Had on ST+C64 myself), Nes version was 'planned' to be done once Amiga version was done, developer saying they expected unit sales of the Nes version to be 'in the millions'.

Not sure work even started on it.

I was thinking games released, RT. Loved the old Accolade and SSI catalogs. Always seemed like C64 had most games followed by Atari computers, then either Apple II or IBM PC jr.

Quote from: "Gorf"The C-64 is not a horrid machine but it's definitely not a A8. The Atari 8bits are superior in just about every
way. Especially when you consider that the A8 chips set is what...3 years older than the C-64? You got to
admit, that's rather lame considering the obsolescence of pretty much any design in the small time allowed
by technological advancement. We are talking months here, even back then.

Archer Maclean (talking to Edge) described the Atari 800 as 'an 8 Bit Amiga (which) very few people exploited, Dropzone did'.

Well, time to get this thread back on topic.  Since I recently acquired a NES-101, I figured I'd look at some of the reviews of that particular NES console.  Anyone else here has a NES-101?  Why did you choose to get it over the original NES console?  I personally prefer the idea of having the carts load from the top like all my other consoles.  Sticking a cart into a "bay" with springs is not reliable.  The one disadvantage I see is that it doesn't have A/V outputs like the original NES but I address that with a signal booster.  I also like the compact size of the console and the dogbone controllers.  These dogbone controller are more comfortable than the rectangular ones. 

One thing that gets mentioned on the review, that I was not aware of, the 101 doesn't have the proprietary chip that the original NES has and it can play any game (licensed or unlicensed).  That's cool.  The whole power supply thing is kinda interesting too.

[align=center:2e7r12pv]CLASSIC GAMES REVISITED - Nintendo NES-101 (Top Loader) review (//http)[/align:2e7r12pv]

I only had one of this in my hands one time and was surprised by the small size, compared to the brick the original NES is it's nice.

Never tried it tough.

I think the size of it comes as a surprise to people.  I sent mine to have the leather cover done (they needed a model console) and that was the first thing Jerry and Barb commented on!  I think they expected some large box! 

Just reading interview with Jonathan Ross, where he starts talking of his love of gaming, he then mentions how he wanted to get a NES, but 'it was really hard to find in the UK for some reason', so when he and his good wife, went shopping down Tottenham Court Road, looking for 1, he ended up buying the Sega Master System instead, along with 4 games, including Shinobi and he fell in love with it.

Remind me again RG just how the NES fared over here?

:-)

It's so weird to me that the NES wasn't well received over there, I just can't get my head around it!  I understand the reasons but it's so ingrained in U.S. culture I feel like I'm looking at a parallel universe when you talk about it. 

Similar to Back to the Future 2...

Quote from: "TrapZZ"It's so weird to me that the NES wasn't well received over there, I just can't get my head around it!  I understand the reasons but it's so ingrained in U.S. culture I feel like I'm looking at a parallel universe when you talk about it. 

Similar to Back to the Future 2... :)  It did have a significant impact in the US market and that's where I live!  LOL

Quote from: "TrapZZ"It's so weird to me that the NES wasn't well received over there, I just can't get my head around it!  I understand the reasons but it's so ingrained in U.S. culture I feel like I'm looking at a parallel universe when you talk about it. 

Similar to Back to the Future 2... :24:

I would'nt worry, i'm still having difficulty getting my head around  UK Retro Gaming publications (RG and to a lesser extent, Gamestm) constantly making out it did far better over here than it did, when i was very much alive, well and gaming during that entire era.

I think it's now very clear said Retro specific  publication is really desperate to conquer the US market and has been for some time, i mean we saw articles on the Contra series, where as if like myself, you picked up the C64 version, it was known as Gryzor or if you were 1 of the few Nes owners here in UK, you'd have known it as Probotector.

I think have the problem honestly is said publication has no competition (something it's admitted on numerous occasions) so it's left to people like myself to pont out just how bizare their portral of the UK Nes scene was, each and every time they feature in print.It's a thankless task, been called all manner of names under the sun, 'elsewhere' and it's claimed i'm trolling threads by pointing out just what happened.

Well boys and girls in the publishing buisness, as long as i keep buying publications which have articles on the Nes and the UK that give a different ( by that i mean false) version of events, i'll quite happily keep pointing out how very wrong said version is and i'll keep posting factual examples of said events from publications and industry figures of that time-you want to class it as trolling? good luck to you.


I'll stop, when you start treating your UK readership with some respect.when your dealing with a niche subject, such as Retro gaming, you have to expect people that read magazine to often know a lot about the subject in question as they were avid gamers back then.

Quote from: "TrekMD"...I didn't have a NES until recently.  DC seems to think I'm some fanboy because of that!  LOL

Not so! I just had you down as a retro gamer with better taste!  :1:

http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1 (//http)

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Quote from: "TrekMD"...I didn't have a NES until recently.  DC seems to think I'm some fanboy because of that!  LOL

Not so! I just had you down as a retro gamer with better taste!  :21:  Well, how did you propose I get a taste for the system?  Like I said, I never had one before.  Needed to get one to see what the fuss was all about!    So far I'm hating how arcade ports are not like the games they are supposed to be porting.  There are exceptions, of course, but it is clearly a recurring thing with the system. 

So, i'm looking at front cover of back issue of Retro Gamer, said cover story is:

The Untold Story Behind The Spectrums Infamous Port:

Now, what could it be? ZX Spectrum had sooo many ports, many of them superb, esp.for the hardware.Chase H.Q? R-Type?, Afterburner?....no to all those, it is of course...'GRADIUS'.

Sorry, who? ohhh you mean NEMESIS!!!

Which is exactly what the article is entitled inside:

Coin-Op Capers#4 Nemesis.

So a UK publication, dealing with a UK home micro and conversion to it, but front cover does'nt use UK name.

Like i said earlier, looks like someone keen to crack the markets other than UK, which, let me be crystal clear, is fine, i understand 100% the magazine, as does any other, needs to reach a mass market to survive, but please, a little honesty from the publisher please, say that.It's nothing to be ashamed of...unlike re-writing UK NES history.....


 

Quote from: "TrekMD"

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "TrekMD"...I didn't have a NES until recently.  DC seems to think I'm some fanboy because of that!  LOL

Not so! I just had you down as a retro gamer with better taste!  :21:  Well, how did you propose I get a taste for the system?  Like I said, I never had one before.  Needed to get one to see what the fuss was all about!    So far I'm hating how arcade ports are not like the games they are supposed to be porting.  There are exceptions, of course, but it is clearly a recurring thing with the system.

Double Dragon is one of the WORST offenders.  Fortunately when it came out I had an SMS with a nearly arcade perfect (for the time) port.

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"So, i'm looking at front cover of back issue of Retro Gamer, said cover story is:

The Untold Story Behind The Spectrums Infamous Port:

Now, what could it be? ZX Spectrum had sooo many ports, many of them superb, esp.for the hardware.Chase H.Q? R-Type?, Afterburner?....no to all those, it is of course...'GRADIUS'.

Sorry, who? ohhh you mean NEMESIS!!!

Which is exactly what the article is entitled inside:

Coin-Op Capers#4 Nemesis.

So a UK publication, dealing with a UK home micro and conversion to it, but front cover does'nt use UK name.

Like i said earlier, looks like someone keen to crack the markets other than UK, which, let me be crystal clear, is fine, i understand 100% the magazine, as does any other, needs to reach a mass market to survive, but please, a little honesty from the publisher please, say that.It's nothing to be ashamed of...unlike re-writing UK NES history.....


 

Wow that's really interesting.  Being a US reader I was surprised how many titles retained the name across both continents.  Now I see how mislead I've been!

Quote from: "TrapZZ"Double Dragon is one of the WORST offenders.

Indeed, Ninja Gaiden is another one of the worst suspects.

You will like THIS THREAD (//http) I think!

Quote from: "The Laird"

Quote from: "TrapZZ"Double Dragon is one of the WORST offenders.

Indeed, Ninja Gaiden is another one of the worst suspects.

You will like THIS THREAD (//http) I think!

Ah yes, that's a great read - thanks!

Quote from: "TrapZZ"

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"So, i'm looking at front cover of back issue of Retro Gamer, said cover story is:

The Untold Story Behind The Spectrums Infamous Port:

Now, what could it be? ZX Spectrum had sooo many ports, many of them superb, esp.for the hardware.Chase H.Q? R-Type?, Afterburner?....no to all those, it is of course...'GRADIUS'.

Sorry, who? ohhh you mean NEMESIS!!!

Which is exactly what the article is entitled inside:

Coin-Op Capers#4 Nemesis.

So a UK publication, dealing with a UK home micro and conversion to it, but front cover does'nt use UK name.

Like i said earlier, looks like someone keen to crack the markets other than UK, which, let me be crystal clear, is fine, i understand 100% the magazine, as does any other, needs to reach a mass market to survive, but please, a little honesty from the publisher please, say that.It's nothing to be ashamed of...unlike re-writing UK NES history.....


 

Wow that's really interesting.  Being a US reader I was surprised how many titles retained the name across both continents.  Now I see how mislead I've been!

Like i say, i understand the reasoning behind it, magazine needs to sell well in USA to continue, but all i'm asking them to do is be a little more 'open' with the readership.It's clear the spate of Nintendo and now Atari related articles are part of a bigger plan by the publisher to see which content sells the most copies and in which areas, not that they'll ever release sales figures, far too sensitive an issue there.

(Please don't insult the intelligence of your readership, those of my age that grew up with the very early micro's onwards, lived through the Nes/MS era, read a lot of gamesmagazines, still have them etc etc, as when we read things which paint a different version of events, we will pull you up on it.)

But on flipside, as a mere subscriber/reader, it's daft at times.Cover say's Gradius...article title say's Nemesis.

If they ever cover Quedex on C64, which title they going to use? the UK title or as you guys knew it Mindroll?


A bigger question might well be:why is it that your only finding out these things via a lowly poster like myself and not the magazine?.Is it not a publications 'job' to present the reader with the facts in an unbiased manner and let them make their own minds up?.

Hopefully there's a wealth of information in this thread as well as the Nes and UK:what really happened? thread that can present to those who honestly want to know how Nes was recived here, using quotes, review scores from numerous UK publications at the time, which can build up a far truer picture that presented by someone who dare i say, only owned a Nes during that period and had a rather, ahem, blinkered view.

Publications need to realise that people like myself, the moaners, the cynics etc still buy your publications as we've a love and a knowledge of the subject material, we are'nt buying it just for a story and chance to 'meet' a famous person.

In the past i've seen ex-staff writers question articles done on same subject matter they once covered, because they were factually incorect, unfinished etc  and got shot down for it, so i'm not overly surprised i'm not exactly popular.

:21:

The NES actually has two different versions of Ms. Pac-Man to choose from:  a Tengen version and a Namco version.  You can check out Laird's review of the Tengen version here:  Nintendo Entertainment System L-N (//http) but there is a nice video review of both versions.  What do you think?  Tengen or Namco?

[align=center:246t2nox]Classic Game Room - MS. PAC-MAN review for NES (//http)[/align:246t2nox]

Quote from: "TrapZZ"It's so weird to me that the NES wasn't well received over there, I just can't get my head around it!  I understand the reasons but it's so ingrained in U.S. culture I feel like I'm looking at a parallel universe when you talk about it. 

Similar to Back to the Future 2... :39:

Still scratching my head as to why it was ever well received over here.

 

Quote from: "Gorf"

Quote from: "TrapZZ"It's so weird to me that the NES wasn't well received over there, I just can't get my head around it!  I understand the reasons but it's so ingrained in U.S. culture I feel like I'm looking at a parallel universe when you talk about it. 

Similar to Back to the Future 2... :39:

Still scratching my head as to why it was ever well received over here.

 :24:

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"Post Of The Week! Too funny!  8)

Quote from: "Gorf"

Quote from: "TrapZZ"It's so weird to me that the NES wasn't well received over there, I just can't get my head around it!  I understand the reasons but it's so ingrained in U.S. culture I feel like I'm looking at a parallel universe when you talk about it. 

Similar to Back to the Future 2... :39:

Still scratching my head as to why it was ever well received over here.

 

Really?  Wow I'd love to hear your perspective.   Here's mine:
At the time I was playing an aging Intellivision and A8.  Once I saw the likes of Zelda and Metroid nothing in my current library could compare to the graphics or gameplay experience.  It was an affordable alternative to the awesome ST and Amiga computers which I would never be able to purchase.

SMS, 7800, and whatever else I'm forgetting hadn't arrived yet.  NES was the first one on the scene.

The best thing about Nes, it did not uses disks and load times were minimal. Also the first system in my area, that you could rent games for the console.

I remember seeing NES carts available for rental at video rental stores.  I was always disappointed that I never saw Atari carts for rental anywhere!

Think if they had advertised on the games. Most times it was a Blockbuster or mom & pop sticker. But, I do have a couple of games with business stickers. One is an electricians sticker and was probably just a way to mark his kids game.

Think of the lost revenue?

I wonder who's idea it was to start renting the games.  Was it Nintendo's idea or did Blockbuster come up with it themselves and then get copied by the mom & pop rental stores?

Quote from: "TrekMD"I wonder who's idea it was to start renting the games.  Was it Nintendo's idea or did Blockbuster come up with it themselves and then get copied by the mom & pop rental stores?

Good question, I'd be interested to know how it started too. At the time VHS rental stores were popping up all over the place so it wouldn't take much to add a game section. I rented a ton of NES games back in the day, way more then I ever bought.

Quote from: "TrekMD"I wonder who's idea it was to start renting the games.  Was it Nintendo's idea or did Blockbuster come up with it themselves and then get copied by the mom & pop rental stores?

Forgive my Britishnessnessness but what is a "mom & pop rental store"?

(I'm resisting making the obvious quip!)

Quote from: "TrekMD"I remember seeing NES carts available for rental at video rental stores.  I was always disappointed that I never saw Atari carts for rental anywhere!

This is probably because Nintendo had the market locked out in North America, so I am guessing this applied to rentals as well as sales and stopped said shops from offering Atari games along side Nintendo ones.

Quote from: "TrekMD"I wonder who's idea it was to start renting the games.  Was it Nintendo's idea or did Blockbuster come up with it themselves and then get copied by the mom & pop rental stores?

Definitely wasn't Nintendo's idea! As you could rent games over here too and I NEVER saw NES games in any rental store, was pretty much always Sega stuff.

If I remember correctly Nintendo was suing those rental stores trying to get them to stop renting NES games.  A quick search found an article to back this up:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=1&cId=3146206 (//http)

Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"

Quote from: "TrekMD"I wonder who's idea it was to start renting the games.  Was it Nintendo's idea or did Blockbuster come up with it themselves and then get copied by the mom & pop rental stores?

Forgive my Britishnessnessness but what is a "mom & pop rental store"?

(I'm resisting making the obvious quip!)

Those are your independent, local stores. It's a small town reference. 

Quote from: "TrapZZ"If I remember correctly Nintendo was suing those rental stores trying to get them to stop renting NES games.  A quick search found an article to back this up:
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=1&cId=3146206 (//http)

Well, that pretty much confirms that it wasn't Nintendo's idea. 

In my little town, we rented from the small grocery store. A & P had closed its doors by then. Also, the local pharmacy rented vcr systems, tapes and Nintendo games.

Quote from: "TrapZZ"Really?  Wow I'd love to hear your perspective.   Here's mine:
At the time I was playing an aging Intellivision and A8.  Once I saw the likes of Zelda and Metroid nothing in my current library could compare to the graphics or gameplay experience.  It was an affordable alternative to the awesome ST and Amiga computers which I would never be able to purchase.

SMS, 7800, and whatever else I'm forgetting hadn't arrived yet.  NES was the first one on the scene.

The unit never appealed to me. All the games were less than great translations. Even owned one from a flea market I got cheap with a shit load of games. Was left with a bad taste in my mouth. Gave it all to my niece Vanessa who was a big fan of it.

Zelda or games like it never appealed to me. Never did like much in the way of RPG's or platformers and the NES was chock full of them, sadly.

Inspired by mention of NES version of Myth (Conan by Mindscape) fired up the NES emulator this morning to see if i had the game on there and wanted to see how it fared next to the C64 original, which i loved at the time, not played for years...


I hate it, seriousily WTF has Mindscape done here?.Controls are awful, but worse still a terrible piece of music burbles along in the background, adding nothing to the game.It seems further alterations are a change or removal of the C64 last boss, according to 'the net.

Looked to see how well it was recived, seems Nes owners hated it.Quick Google search threw up topic title:which is worse: Conan or Defender Of The Crown on Nes?

And looked at Gamefaqs: Reader Average Review 3 reviews score 1.7.

Gamefaqs Rating Average 4.2 20 users.

Wondering if it was honestly worth the coverage in the Myth article, when space could instead of been used to inc some actual in-game shots of host platform version, C64.

I do not know about Conan/Myth. Defender of the Crown was an excellent game on the Nes.

Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"...Wondering if it was honestly worth the coverage in the Myth article, when space could instead of been used to inc some actual in-game shots of host platform version, C64.

'Worth it' from a consumer perspective or from the publisher's perspective, RT?

(That's a rhetorical question, btw!)

Mike Matei looks at some hidden gems for the NES:

Top 10 Obscure NES Gems with Mike Matei (//http)

This was a rather interesting selection of games.  I have Joe & Mac and it is a cool game but I had not heard of the others.  I'll check some of these out.

Got 3 hours to spare?  Here is a video looking at all the title screens of games in the NES's library!  Check it out:

[align=center:1hfa4gcu]PRESS START (//http)[/align:1hfa4gcu]

Gotta work from home tomorrow so gonna see if I can handle the 3 hr marathon.


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Quote from: "kapturerelease"Gotta work from home tomorrow so gonna see if I can handle the 3 hr marathon.


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Wow, I wished I could spend 3 hours of my work day watching a YouTube video! 

Pleasures of working from home sometimes. Lol


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I can see having it running for 3 hours just to listen the title screen game music.  LOL

We've seen several choices of NES games members have posted and we've even looked at a video of 10 obscure gems for the NES.  How about 20 games that defined the system?  What do you think of this list?

[align=center:25flsnyn]20 Games That Defined The NES (//http)[/align:25flsnyn]

Good list, as those twenty games get mentioned quite often. Shame on me, I have only played about half of those games.

Time to turn in my Nintendo membership.

Quote from: "onthinice"Good list, as those twenty games get mentioned quite often. Shame on me, I have only played about half of those games.

Time to turn in my Nintendo membership. :21:  Good to see you back, ice!

Thanks, I think! I am just taking a break from shoveling.  :21:

Quote from: "onthinice"Thanks, I think! I am just taking a break from shoveling.  :21:

My condolences.   

Quote from: "onthinice"Thanks, I think! I am just taking a break from shoveling.  :21:

Well at least your user name fits!

Yep, NES games are out but I can still use the Atari 2600 and 7800 joysticks.

Just saw this video. What do you all think?  The reality is that things are going crazy not just for the NES but for other systems as well.

[align=center:1gqtbgfb]Finding NES games isn't fun anymore! Frustrating & too much money! (//http)[/align:1gqtbgfb]

Collecting has been going this way for many years..

He makes some valid points. I think it would be cool to have a complete Nes collection but I do not ever see it happening.

I have owned Secret of Mana and Earthbound for the Snes. Knew they would never be played so I sold them. Also sold some Sega CD games to buy some Saturn games and controllers. I think a gamer or collector has to find that spot where they are comfortable with what they have in their collection or game library and accept that very few folks are ever able to own every game or system. Of course not including TrekMD.

Quote from: "onthinice"He makes some valid points. I think it would be cool to have a complete Nes collection but I do not ever see it happening.

I have owned Secret of Mana and Earthbound for the Snes. Knew they would never be played so I sold them. Also sold some Sega CD games to buy some Saturn games and controllers. I think a gamer or collector has to find that spot where they are comfortable with what they have in their collection or game library and accept that very few folks are ever able to own every game or system. Of course not including TrekMD. :21:  I don't own every system nor every game for them.   

:78:

You are bad!!!

Give me time 2014 is just getting started, I can change. lol

I do agree with Zapiy about collecting. Just not sure if it is true collectors or buyers hoping for a higher return.

Just saw this on IGN:

(http://www.analogueinteractive.com/images/stories/A.Nt-side.jpg)
http://www.analogueinteractive.com/index.php/analogue-nt (//http)

Analogue Interactive, who are the guys who make the wooden NeoGeo MVS systems, have a brand new NES/Famicon coming out! According to their website they have re-engineered the system and it will not be emulation based like all the other clones out there, and will have vastly improved sound and video output. No price has been listed yet (seeing how much they charge for their MVS systems I'm guessing it won't be cheap!) but they're supposed to have more details by the end of the month. Love seeing stuff like this 

That's pretty interesting because it does not involve emulation, so this should work flawlessly with any game. 

[align=center:f3hif3hb][size=140]DENDYcompo II is a music disk for NES created by Rubel for the 8-bit Netlabel 8081. (//http)

Tracklist:

01. Nuclear Mushroom Boom – Summertime
02. Xenon Odyssey – Convoluted Culvert
03. bertfm – Dancing to Death
04. Harumi Makoto – Wonder Panorama
05. Please Lose Battle – Restrain from entering my bedroom[/size]

DENDYcompo II (//http)[/align:f3hif3hb]

Cool, I just downloaded this. 

Quote from: "Shadowrunner"Just saw this on IGN:

(http://www.analogueinteractive.com/images/stories/A.Nt-side.jpg)
http://www.analogueinteractive.com/index.php/analogue-nt (//http)

Analogue Interactive, who are the guys who make the wooden NeoGeo MVS systems, have a brand new NES/Famicon coming out! According to their website they have re-engineered the system and it will not be emulation based like all the other clones out there, and will have vastly improved sound and video output. No price has been listed yet (seeing how much they charge for their MVS systems I'm guessing it won't be cheap!) but they're supposed to have more details by the end of the month. Love seeing stuff like this 

Great stuff I look forward to hearing and seeing more.

[align=center:dwmjtd08]Awesome Nintendo NES Mods (//http)[/align:dwmjtd08]

Hey, some of these have made it into the "Good Modded Connsoles" thread. 

[align=center:3uxyurv9]Anticipation (NES) James & Mike Mondays (//http)[/align:3uxyurv9]

That's a good game to play with friends. 

Well it looks like that new NES console is available for pre-order. http://www.analogueinteractive.com/products/analogue-nt (//http)
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0142/7122/t/5/assets/store_img1.png?3004)
That is if you have $499.00 burning a hole in your pocket! I realize a lot of work has gone into this and the specs and the look of the console are very impressive, but come on  :64:

That a joke surely. 

And what were they smoking when they decided on those prices? 

Not only is this possibly the ugliest console I have ever seen it is also ridiculously over priced - great combination.

The last thing the world needs is another NES clone 

Dragon Knife, is an unlicensed Nintendo NES title which has just been translated into English. A clear rip-off of the Technos game Double Dragon, Dragon Knife was produced for the Chinese market and has since found its way around the world via NES collectors and ROM sharing sites. While the action in Dragon Knife needs no explanation or translation, every last segment of Chinese text in game - from menus, to storyline, to title screens, to cut-scenes - has been rewritten in English by ROM hackers.

A downloadable English patch for Dragon Knife can now be found at ROMHacking.net (//http). As usual, to enjoy this fan translation patch you will need to have an original Dragon Knife ROM file to which you can apply this patch to. Full instructions on how to patch this ROM can be found within the download. Here is a video of the game in action:

[align=center:daq8bu4f]Dragon Knife English Translation Released for NES!!! (//http)[/align:daq8bu4f]

Nice to see another fan translation. 

[align=center:2ae79kud]Super Off Road (NES) James & Mike Mondays (//http)

R.C. Pro-Am II (NES) James & Mike Mondays (//http)[/align:2ae79kud]

[align=center:2wht8mov]Prefer the original spectrum version but this looks pretty decent actually:

Target Renegade (//http)[/align:2wht8mov]

My favourite nes game has got to be chip n dale rescue rangers!
I'm trying to find the 2nd one for a good price, so of anyone has it for sale let me know ;-)


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[align=center:3u6znz16]Super C (NES) (//http)[/align:3u6znz16]

I have Super C for the NES and it is a great game. 

[align=center:3mt5vrnt]Maniac Mansion (NES) James & Mike Mondays (//http)[/align:3mt5vrnt]

[align=center:10f88fus]I sold my NES - Leftovers (//http)[/align:10f88fus]

I definitely agree with him, some NES stuff seems to go for silly money despite being pretty common.

Quote from: "The Laird"I definitely agree with him, some NES stuff seems to go for silly money despite being pretty common.

I guess it is based on the popularity of the system in areas like the US.

[align=center:1l4dsut8]NES 2 Top Loader (Model NES-101) - The Gaming Historian (//http)[/align:1l4dsut8]

Awesome, amazing how many variations there are at times.

I didn't know they had sent special versions of the toploader with A/V output to some customers.  I wonder how many of those were released and how many still exist!

One thing I didn't realise until recently is that Nintendo had licensees test their games against many revisions of mainboards (not just different models).  So, not only were the amount of games restricted they were forced to patch against the big Ns own botched hardware.

Not a jab at Nintendo - just fascination that there can be many variants within models.

Yeah thats strange that could happen but i suspect they all suffed this in some way?

[align=center:1dio0kdu]TEENS REACT TO NINTENDO (NES) (//http)[/align:1dio0kdu]

God I'm old.

Quote from: "Lorfarius"God I'm old.

Welcome to the club!   

Here's a video similar to the one I posted for the Genesis/MD. This one looks at the top 10 most expensive titles for the NES...

[align=center:1c9ni8ge]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwbFp_pVrhE[/align:1c9ni8ge]

I just saw someone is selling a game called Panic Restaurant for the NES.  I had never heard of this game before but it appears to be rare as a lose cart is going for $375 over at NA.  The prices on ebay are just as high or higher.  A manual goes for $150!  Does anyone own this game?  Is it any good? Looks like a rather peculiar platformer.  Here is a video of the game:

[align=center:2xbc82i0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJOpWh9s9l4[/align:2xbc82i0]

Never heard of it before but I like the look of it. At that price though, I won't be buying a copy any time soon!

Me neither!  Boxed copies go for three times that much or even higher! 

Here's a cool read from Retro Gamin Magazine's web page:  THE FIFTEEN MOST DIFFICULT NES GAMES (THAT ARE NOT BATTLETOADS) (//http).  Has anyone tried any of these games on the NES? 

I've played a few of those, but never made it very far!

So, looks like their inclusion on this list is appropriate. 

Out of the ones I played:

Ghosts 'N Goblins
The Adventures of Bayou Billy
Shadowgate
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones
Ninja Gaiden III: The Ancient Ship of Doom

Shadowgate was probably the most fun with the most replay value. I had written down the most efficient path and items for it and could make it to the Behemoth final boss in no time when I'd finished going through it so much. Never found the guide for it (or the one I'd made for Section Z) but would be a nice relic to have posted :13:

Awesome link 8)

Double Dragon III is the only one I have played on the list.  I agree. After playing Double Dragon II, I had such high hopes for number III. It was a letdown.

Here is a new video from Metal Jesus listing some hidden gems for the NES!

[align=center:2o72ph0h]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3O7i7vRySY&feature=em-subs_digest[/align:2o72ph0h]

I grew up with the NES: and sure I can say ( Contra, SMB 3, Zelda etc) are my fav's.  But I really enjoyed a rare shmup call Gun Nac.  Maybe I'm a little late to this thread, but hey it was a fun game.

If you like Gun Nac you should take a look here (//http)

Very Nice - This game also had a lot of Blazing Lazers elements to it

Just watched this.  Some interesting things here...

[align=center:61qfykle]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Qrt0CIU2dM[/align:61qfykle]

excellent video Trek, thanks for posting it, I'm more NES educated now

Exceptional info there. Had no idea of any of that.
Just grabbed Holy Diver to give it a spin later

I love the NES. My first title for it was Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!! Below are my favorite games:


1. Final Fantasy
2. Zelda 1 & 2
3. Battle Of Olympus (A very underrated title imo.)
4. Super Mario 2 & 3
5. Faxanadu
6. Gun.Smoke
7. Dragon Warrior 2 & 3
8. River City Ransom

I'm not familiar with Battle of Olympus.  What type of game is it?

One of the guys from Game Sack has a look at the NES.  Here's his video review of the system and several of its games...

I've always had issues with a number of the arcade conversions on the NES because the games are not really a port of the arcade game but a NES-only version of the game.  Not what I would have had expected.  This did change with time but it was true of the early ports.  Here is a video from John Hancock looking at the better arcade ports for the NES.  Enjoy...

Played THE HELL out of Bubble Bobble and Contra on NES.  Surprised he omitted Gradius as that is a solid port too - played that a lot.

Balloon Fight was Nintendo's take on Joust and I believe it's the better game - esp. for home play. Played a lot of that too.

He'll likely be doing a second video given that this was Part 1. Maybe Gradius will show up in that video. :)

While this is more relevant to those of us in the United States, I thought this was an interesting conversation between John Hancock and Brett Weiss about the NES and how it changed the video game industry after the infamous crash.

We didn't really experience a crash here in the UK. The 2600 naturally fizzled out and the 8 bit micros slotted into its place. The Sinclair Spectrum, C64, Atari 800/400, Amstrad 464 etc. replaced consoles as game playing platforms before the consoles came back. I went back to consoles via the NES but the Sega Master System was bigger here before the SNES and Megadrive launched.

Yes, it was a North American phenomenon and I wasn't even aware of it as I was living through it.  It's also fascinating that the SMS did not do well in the US but it did well outside of the US.  It was a capable console, so it is unfortunate people just got tied to the NES over here. 

Quote from: TrekMD on July 11, 2020, 15:56:33 PM
Yes, it was a North American phenomenon and I wasn't even aware of it as I was living through it.  It's also fascinating that the SMS did not do well in the US but it did well outside of the US.  It was a capable console, so it is unfortunate people just got tied to the NES over here. 

I'm pretty sure it was by design. Nintendo ruled the US market with an iron fist. Once they got into a dominant position they threatened withholding stock if anyone considered selling competitor products. Or had distributers tied up in contracts to make it very difficult for anyone else to get in.

Yeah, I'm sure it was be design.  I do believe other companies tried to fight then in court about it but weren't very successful.

I'm ashamed to admit but Golf (1984) is my favorite game on the NES.

Don't be.  Everyone has their personal taste. :)

Quote from: compot on August 04, 2020, 10:14:30 AM
I'm ashamed to admit but Golf (1984) is my favorite game on the NES.

I actually rather liked Golf on the NES. I first played the Playchoice version of it in the pub I used to work in. Four of us used to play that game all the time for drinks etc. - would play 2 vs 2 taking alternate strokes. The NES console version is pretty much a perfect copy of it.

There's a speedrunner who runs NES Golf called Big John who is very entertaining - he also runs SMB2 (the JP lost levels version) of that.

The New Retro Show looks at new games for the NES...

Did anyone ever have to deal with this?

Heh. I was an adult when I got the NES (final year at university).

My final exam scores would have benefited from its use though.....

Quote from: davyk on January 07, 2021, 15:24:02 PM
My final exam scores would have benefited from its use though.....

LOL

LOL! I am kind of a collector of video game oddities. But have never came across this device. Growing up it was easier for my parents to take the power supply or batteries away if I was misbehaving. Life in the late 70's and 80's. Miss those days.

Yeah, that lock is more of a curiosity.  There were so many other ways parents could have restricted use of the system!  Even taking away the system itself!

I know that top 10 lists are an individual thing but this is a nice list of games that are very good games on the NES...

Pretty much faultless that list.  Gradius should be on it but it's hard to take one out to make room for it. :)

I'll take off one of the sports titles and put Gradius in there.  ;)

Here are games for the NES.  The second and third games on the video look really cool and are available for free.

I received this console from my parents for Christmas (1989) with a couple of games Castlevania and Rush'n Attack (Green Beret)!

My sister liked Super Mario Bros a lot

Nice. Super Mario Bros was the first game I ever finished and still my favourite Mario game.