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Title: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 01, 2013, 15:29:52 PM
With great pride it is that I present you Luchsenstein 3D!

As you may know, Atari made a deal with John Cormack of id Software to do a Lynx version of Wolfenstein 3D; sadly the Tramiels were not interested and the deal ultimately fell through.

Now thanks to obschan's impressive coding we can all see what Wolfenstein 3D might have looked like.

A full game using this engine will follow eventually.
I was so impressed with obschan's 2012 demo I offered my help; such an impressive engine must not go to waste. The full game will have nothing to do with Wolfenstein of course, but we thought it was a good example for the demo as everybody knows that game and can compare. I think it looks surprisingly close, even if it is not a full featured conversion; but hey, even the Jaguar version lacks much of the PC-original's gameplay.

We have two levels, one is a boss battle.

Conrtrols:
A : shoot
B : strafe
Option 1 : open doors

Enjoy!

P.S.: I can't seem to upload it here, so please download the ROM at atariAge; flashcard compatible btw. http://atariage.com/forums/topic/211857 ... try2745679 (http://atariage.com/forums/topic/211857-luchsenstein-3d/#entry2745679)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 01, 2013, 15:36:31 PM
I just downloaded this, I will give it a try later and tell you my thoughts!

Here is some screenshots for you:

(http://www7.pic-upload.de/13.03.13/pbmmo3xmhizu.jpg)   (http://www10.pic-upload.de/13.03.13/gt7ravicopdk.jpg)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: DreamcastRIP on May 01, 2013, 15:44:23 PM
Impressive stuff and thanks for posting, 108 Stars. :1:
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 01, 2013, 15:49:38 PM
The pics The Laird posted are from an older demo, not Wolfenstein-themed; here's pics from Luchsenstein as you can play it. :)

(http://www10.pic-upload.de/01.05.13/zfprml19s6yb.png) (//http)(http://www10.pic-upload.de/01.05.13/1t2gn5j7lie8.png) (//http)
(http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.05.13/blxvb44c4vfo.png) (//http)(http://www7.pic-upload.de/01.05.13/zsf79yo31erv.png) (//http)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 01, 2013, 15:50:42 PM
Even better!!!

Looks amazing, will give this a play on Handy later on  :41:
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TrekMD on May 01, 2013, 16:17:04 PM
This is awesome!  Will have to download it and give it a try!  I hope it eventually sees release as a cart!
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 01, 2013, 17:15:55 PM
Unlikely; that would be very risky from a legal standpoint. We actually put in a disclaimer to warn people that this is freeware in case some bootlegs appear on eBay.
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 01, 2013, 17:23:41 PM
Quote from: "108 Stars"Unlikely; that would be very risky from a legal standpoint. We actually put in a disclaimer to warn people that this is freeware in case some bootlegs appear on eBay.

Given that the original Wolf 3D is freeware and versions have been released for other machines you should be ok!
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 01, 2013, 17:29:56 PM
They are still selling the game for iphone etc, so it could be interpreted as competition, as bizarre as it sounds for a Lynx game.^^ Better safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 01, 2013, 17:40:11 PM
Quote from: "108 Stars"They are still selling the game for iphone etc, so it could be interpreted as competition, as bizarre as it sounds for a Lynx game.^^ Better safe than sorry.

I doubt it very much! Carmack is a nice guy, I bet if you emailed him he would give his approval!
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 01, 2013, 18:28:42 PM
Just tweeted a screenshot to John Carmack and he replied.
 He said he had planned to use the Lynx vertically " to make efficient use of the scaling hardware for column stretching". So the official Wolfenstein 3D would have been quite different. :)

I did not ask about a card release though, it would be too insolent after doing the demo without asking first.
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 01, 2013, 18:40:27 PM
Quote from: "108 Stars"Just tweeted a screenshot to John Carmack and he replied.
 He said he had planned to use the Lynx vertically " to make efficient use of the scaling hardware for column stretching". So the official Wolfenstein 3D would have been quite different. :)

I did not ask about a card release though, it would be too insolent after doing the demo without asking first.

Wow! That is very interesting!

I really don't think he would care mate, every game has to start somewhere right? He has already shown he is interested!
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TrekMD on May 01, 2013, 21:43:53 PM
If he had a problem with this, he would have said it.  The worst that can happen is that he says no but you won't know until you ask.

Interesting that they would have done it with the Lynx held vertically, though. 
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 03, 2013, 18:46:16 PM
So, has anybody actually played it and beat Hitler? :)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 06, 2013, 21:59:38 PM
Quote from: "108 Stars"So, has anybody actually played it and beat Hitler? :77:
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 07, 2013, 17:58:51 PM
It's just historically accurate, so I had no choice but to include that. :D
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 07, 2013, 18:10:45 PM
Quote from: "108 Stars"It's just historically accurate, so I had no choice but to include that. ???

You will never convince me that Superfly and Downfall are good games, this demo is about a million times better than both of them.
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 08, 2013, 15:00:13 PM
Well, but Hitler loved them. I can't change that fact, look it up somewhere. :)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 08, 2013, 15:37:59 PM
Quote from: "108 Stars"Well, but Hitler loved them. I can't change that fact, look it up somewhere. :21:
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 12, 2013, 01:57:20 AM
For everyone who does not have a flashcard, here's a video of Luchsenstein running on a real Lynx. Excuse my English, it's quite different to actually speak it (not used to that since school) from just writing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 9ibCVW7tvk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f9ibCVW7tvk)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on May 12, 2013, 02:31:06 AM
Quote from: "108 Stars"For everyone who does not have a flashcard, here's a video of Luchsenstein running on a real Lynx. Excuse my English, it's quite different to actually speak it (not used to that since school) from just writing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 9ibCVW7tvk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f9ibCVW7tvk)

Great video! And your English is fine, I know people over here who speak it worse!  :6:
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: Shadowrunner on May 12, 2013, 17:48:43 PM
Very impressive and I agree with Laird, your english is really good  :)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: 108 Stars on May 13, 2013, 16:15:14 PM
Thanks a lot, I'm glad you understand me well. :)
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: TL on June 08, 2013, 17:29:44 PM
I have just added a mini-review of this:

http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/index.php?page=atarilynxlmn (//http)

A full blown review will appear in Atari User issue 24!
Title: Re: Luchsenstein 3D: Freeware demo for Lynx released!
Post by: DreamcastRIP on June 08, 2013, 17:40:23 PM
Quote from: "108 Stars"Thanks a lot, I'm glad you understand me well. :13: :21: