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So I was thinking about launch line-ups, it seems that every time a new console comes out these days people criticise the launch line-up. This is especially true at the moment with the recent launch of the Wii U. But were previous generations any better?

I thought it would be cool to look at some and rate/analyse them.

The only console I have ever bought at launch was the Atari Jaguar so let's look at that first:

Cyber Morph (Pack-in)
Trevor McFur In The Crescent Galaxy
Raiden
Evolution: Dino Dudes

Overal I would rate this 3/10 for a launch line-up. It's very unbalanced with 3 shooters and a strategy puzzle game. Having no platformer at launch in 1993 was criminal, Tiny Toons was supposed to be a launch title, and also no fighting game either meaning the 2 most popular genres of the time were absent. As impressive as Cyber Morph and Crescent Galaxy were at the time they were not enough to draw people to the system. Raiden and Dino Dudes were available on other platforms so also gave little incentive for a purchase, although they were the definitive versions available at the time.


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Topic starter Posted : 08/02/2013 5:27 pm
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Going off memory, having bought a MCD at launch:

I had Cobra Command, comp.of MD games on CD, Sol-feace? (cart game with intro+CD music), bought Jaguar XJ220 (intro, CD music some scaling on roadside objects) but waited ages for games that really used hardware.

PS1:Bought with Toh Shin Den+Ridge Racer, once the OMG factor wore off, think i picked up Lone Solider and possibly MK3.

PS2, bloody hell, barren times.Timesplitters and Extermination, both looked like PS1.5 games.

Dreamcast:Sonic Adventure, Blue Stinger and HOTD, i think.

Would have to do some research.


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Posted : 08/02/2013 10:30 pm
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What would you rate the Jag launch line-up?


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Topic starter Posted : 08/02/2013 10:35 pm
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What would you rate the Jag launch line-up?

Poor.Only Cyber Morph showed potential of hardware.

The rest?

Trevor got ripped to pieces and rightly so, Ray Tracing might have been big thing on Amiga's, but did'nt scream next gen console.

Dino Dudes, just poor choice, as was Raiden a game SNES/MD etc had years before.

Atari made a lot of noise about the hardware and really should have launched with a lot stronger line up than what we got.


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Posted : 08/02/2013 10:39 pm
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The SNES launch lineup really is hard to beat:

Super Mario World, F-Zero, Pilotwings.....

F-Zero and Pilotwings might be showing their age now but they were jaw dropping back in the day and are still pretty playable - though if ever a game needed an update its Pilotwings....the N64 game was nice but it didn't capture the feel of the original for me.

The original F-Zero still has lots of charm and I really like the updates - F-Zero X and GX are among my favourite racers - though GX is too hard for its own good but what a great effort by Sega.

Mario World still sets the standard - wonderful game.


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Not 100% sure on these so please correct where wrong (and bound to be missing a few per format, sorry):

SNES UK launch had Zelda, F-Zero, Pilot Wings, Super Tennis, Super Soccer, Super R-Type, Sim City and Super Mario 4.

PS1 UK had likes of:wipeout, Ridge Racer, Rapid Reload, Ace Combat and Toh Shin Den.

Colecovision:Donkey Kong, Carnival, Zaxxon+Smurph (others which i'm really not sure on)

Game Cube (UK) Luigi's Mansion, SW:Rogue Leader:Rogue Squadron 2+Super Monkey Ball.

Dreamcast US launch:likes ofReady 2 Rumble Boxing, Hydro Thunder, Trickstyle, HOTD 2, NFL 2K, NFL Blitz 2000, Incoming, Expendable, Soul Caliber, Powerstone and Sonic Adventure.

Xbox European launch:Halo, JSR:Future, Max Payne, Oddworld:Munch's Oddysee, DOA3 and Project Gotham Racing.

Genesis:

Alex Kid, Altered Beast, Space Harrier 2, Super Thunder Blade, Thunder Force 2, Last Battle and a baseball game.

Game Boy:Tetris, Alleyway, Baseball, Tennis and Super Mario Land.


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Posted : 09/02/2013 2:33 am
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Bought the Genesis about a year after it came out.

The Genesis had the pack-in Altered Beast. Some of the early sports titles that I bought were Arnold Palmer Tournament Golf, James 'Buster' Douglas Boxing, Joe Montana Football and Tommy Lasorda Baseball. I remember also getting arcade hits like Golden Axe, Revenge of Shinobi, Super Hang-On and the Power Base adaptor.

The Turbo took a little more time. TG-16's initial pack-in game was Keith Courage in Alpha Zones. When they offered Bonk's Adventure as an additional pack-in I snatched one up. Not sure about the release titles. I did purchase Final Lap Twin, J.J and Jeff, Pac-Land, Power Golf,  Splatterhouse, TurboTap(multi adaptor), TV Sports Football and Victory Run.

I remember picking up a Super Nes when they came out. Only game I think of besides Super Mario World is SimCity. Seems like I had those two games for a while and it must have 1993 before I bought more games for the Snes. I was a big Sega fan.


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N64, from Wiki;

    Pilotwings 64
    Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
    Super Mario 64

Those Nintendo games and a Star Wars licence make for a weighty line up.  Is that it or were there others?

I didn't get onboard until Goldeneye was released, only a few months after release I believe.  I played all 3 launch titles and found them to be superb.  So excusing it's short comings, even Shadows! 


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N64, from Wiki;

    Pilotwings 64
    Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
    Super Mario 64

Those Nintendo games and a Star Wars licence make for a weighty line up.  Is that it or were there others?

I didn't get onboard until Goldeneye was released, only a few months after release I believe.  I played all 3 launch titles and found them to be superb.  So excusing it's short comings, even Shadows!

That was it! Just 3 games!

They might have been good games but that is just shocking to launch a console with 3 games, one of which was a pack-in! That launch gets 3/10 from me as well for that reason.


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Topic starter Posted : 09/02/2013 11:24 am
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Interesting to note that whilst BOTH the Xbox+N64 had quality games avaiable at launch, they did very little to help shift the hardware in the numbers their parent companies had expected.

MS slashed the R.R.P off the Xbox by £100 after a mere month, Nintendo had done the same with the N64 after 2 months, so guess no matter how 'strong' your launch line up is, unless the price of the hardware is attractive, it's not going to fly.

Plus i'd say Vita had a 'strong' launch line up, but since then? games that it so badly needs been a mere trickle.


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Posted : 09/02/2013 11:43 am
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N64, from Wiki;

    Pilotwings 64
    Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire
    Super Mario 64

Those Nintendo games and a Star Wars licence make for a weighty line up.  Is that it or were there others?

I didn't get onboard until Goldeneye was released, only a few months after release I believe.  I played all 3 launch titles and found them to be superb.  So excusing it's short comings, even Shadows!

That was it! Just 3 games!

They might have been good games but that is just shocking to launch a console with 3 games, one of which was a pack-in! That launch gets 3/10 from me as well for that reason.

You guys were lucky to get 3 games at launch. Here in NA it was only Mario and Pilotwings.
Guess that made it easy to choose which games you were buying lol


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Posted : 09/02/2013 8:21 pm
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I'd rate the Jag at a 3 as well, its a shame because its now one of my favourite retro consoles

I thought I'd pitch in with the PAL Dreamcast Release Line-up, it was pretty good imo:

Sonic Adventure
Blue Stinger
Dynamite Cop
Hydro Thunder
Monaco Grand Prix
Mortal Kombat Gold
Powerstone
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing
sega rally 2
Tokyo Highway Challenge
Trickstyle
Virtua Fighter 3tb

all round I'd say its one of the best ever with an excellent mix of fighting, racing, action and sport, I'd give it 8.5/10. What do you guys reckon? Contender for the best?


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I'd rate the Jag at a 3 as well, its a shame because its now one of my favourite retro consoles

I thought I'd pitch in with the PAL Dreamcast Release Line-up, it was pretty good imo:

Sonic Adventure
Blue Stinger
Dynamite Cop
Hydro Thunder
Monaco Grand Prix
Mortal Kombat Gold
Powerstone
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing
sega rally 2
Tokyo Highway Challenge
Trickstyle
Virtua Fighter 3tb

all round I'd say its one of the best ever with an excellent mix of fighting, racing, action and sport, I'd give it 8.5/10. What do you guys reckon? Contender for the best?

I have to agree with you there. As far as console launch line-ups go that has to be one of the best, it's a 9/10 for me. What was the Jap launch line-up?


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nowhere near as good, the DC came out almost a FULL YEAR before in Japan in Nov 98 so its release list there was tiny by comparison:

Sonic Adventure
Pen Pen TriIcelon
Godzilla Generations
July
Virtua Fighter 3tb

whats crazy is that the US ine up was even better I think than the PAL one!! Some gem here that for some reason got delayed or dropped from the UK list entirely

Sonic Adventure
Aerowings
AirForce Delta (Deadly Skies in EU)
Blue Stinger
Expendable
Flag to Flag
The House of the Dead 2
Hydro Thunder
Monaco Grand Prix
Mortal Kombat Gold
NFL 2K
NFL Blitz 2000
Pen Pen TriIcelon
Power Stone
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing
Soulcalibur
TNN Motorsports Hardcore Heat
Tokyo Xtreme Racer
TrickStyle


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Wow! The US got it really good!

What about the Atari Lynx then:

Chip's Challenge
Gates Of Zendocon
California Games (pack-in)
Blue Lightning
Electrocop

Gauntlet 3 was delayed slightly and missed the US launch but was available at the full European launch in early 1990.


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