Author Topic: Android Emulation... discussion/advice  (Read 1323 times)

Offline dcultrapro

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1245
  • Country: gb
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Antonyv1982?feature=mhee
Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« on: July 10, 2018, 09:07:57 AM »
Hey everyone! I couldn't see a recent thread about this and didn't want to resurrect any old threads so thought I'd post a new one, hope that's cool.

I'm selling my retro gaming collection over the coming months, and part of the solution for that is for me to emulate as much of my old favourites as possible, and I am currently trying to do this on Android.

Currently I'm using the following emulators on my Sony Xperia Z5 Premium;

Gearoid
Gensoid
FPSE
Nesoid
Snesoid


Couple of things I wanted to ask you guys;

  • Does anyone use these emulators at all? If so, do you encounter issues getting them to read the SD card contents? Any tips for getting round this?
  • Does anyone emulate via android in combination with displaying their phone to TV via usb-hdmi? I was looking for info on setting this up but couldn't find anything useful, any tips on setup, cables, etc would be appreciated.
  • Can ayone recommend decent emulation solutions for Atari Lynx and Jaguar? Android or otherwise

Feel free to discuss android emulation in general as well! Any questions you have for me on it are welcome
Ultrapro on xbox live

Offline Shadowrunner

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5381
  • Country: ca
  • Karma: 82
    • View Profile
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2018, 14:55:58 PM »
I don't emulate much at all. I have a little bit but generally I think it's just not worth the hassle.

As for connecting your phone to your TV, I've had good and bad results. I had an old tablet that had a keyboard dock with a full size HDMI plug and I used to plug it into the TV all the time and it worked great. I recently tried doing the same thing with my phone and bought a mini USB to HDMI cable but it did not work. It was charging my phone when connected so it was getting power but I couldn't get any picture on the TV. I went online and watched a video and it showed I was doing everything right but it just didn't work. Faulty cable maybe but I haven't tried anything else to see. In theory though it should work.

Offline dcultrapro

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1245
  • Country: gb
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Antonyv1982?feature=mhee
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2018, 15:07:26 PM »
Fair enough... I guess it all comes down to logistics and what's easiest for you. For me I find it impossible to have all the original retro systems setup and accessible on a regular basis, not to mention all the carts and/or jewel cases... and dusting lol. It was a somewhat manageable when I lived with my ex wife as I just kept them in boxes in the spare bedroom and had most systems wired up in some way or in boxes near by.

But living with my fiance and my step daughter in our new house, I don't have any way of doing that, the decoration style is considerably more... minimalist than before! So for me its infinitely easier to have emulators all setup on one device. Plus I need to sell it all for some extra money to put towards the house :D

Regarding the TV connection thing, I'd be interested to know what kind of cable you used, for example, my phone has a microUSB 2.0 (MHL 3 TV-out), USB Host port, and I've seen tonnes of variations... some include usb-hdmi-power, some just usb-hdmi... there doesn't seem to be any clear solution from what I've googled. I know you said it didn't work for you but if I can find something similar from another manufacturer, I might be in business.

I've tried casting and screensharing but its subject to serious lag and slow down etc

Ultrapro on xbox live

Offline Shadowrunner

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5381
  • Country: ca
  • Karma: 82
    • View Profile
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2018, 17:12:13 PM »
I don't remember what the brand was but it was called an MHL cable, which should have worked from what I've read. It also needed to be plugged into the USB port on my TV to get power, or you could just use your phone charger if your TV doesn't have a USB plug.

It was just a cheap cable I found when I was out shopping one day. I should have returned it and got another to try but instead I just bought a Chromecast off Amazon and threw the cable away. It's good but limited in what you can cast and doesn't really serve the same purpose as a MHL cable.

Offline dcultrapro

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1245
  • Country: gb
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Antonyv1982?feature=mhee
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2018, 19:47:11 PM »
Fair play mate, understandable. I can have a look for an MHL cable and see how that goes. Is your understanding that the cable will display the screen vertically? Or is it going to display whatever orientation the screen is depending on the app which is running?

Anyone got any (android or otherwise) emulator recommendations for Lynx and/or Jag?

If anyone wants to discuss other android emulators which they have used please feel free.

I find Gensoid is really good but just has the occasional niggle with things like accessing the SD card and sometimes ROMS will play up, but other than that, for Android it works really well
Ultrapro on xbox live

Offline TrekMD

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 22615
  • Country: us
  • Karma: 81
    • View Profile
    • http://plus.google.com/+EugenioAngueira
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2018, 01:56:18 AM »
There are various ways to connect your phone to your TV. There are ways to get your screen onto the TV like through Miracast, Chromecast or even HDMI.  It all depends on your hardware.  The Chromecast can mirror your screen onto the TV.  I find tablets are better than phones for doing this.  As for emulators, there are plenty on Android.  One for the Jaguar is called IrataJaguar.  I'm not aware of a Lynx one, though. 

Going to the final frontier, gaming...

Offline Shadowrunner

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 5381
  • Country: ca
  • Karma: 82
    • View Profile
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2018, 03:19:53 AM »
Guess I need to look at what my Chromecast can do lol. I had no idea you could put the whole screen on the TV with it.

Offline TrekMD

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 22615
  • Country: us
  • Karma: 81
    • View Profile
    • http://plus.google.com/+EugenioAngueira
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2018, 03:47:34 AM »
Yes you can.  Mirroring of your screen is one of the functions that it has and it works.  :)  You can also mirror Chrome tabs to your TV.  It's a cool function.

Going to the final frontier, gaming...

Offline dcultrapro

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1245
  • Country: gb
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Antonyv1982?feature=mhee
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2018, 08:41:25 AM »
Is screen "Mirroring" the same as Screen Share? I am able to cast certain apps to my tv, and "Screen Share" but both are relatively laggy... hence why I thought maybe for accurate gaming on the screen, would it be better to use a cable and not rely on the wireless signal integrity

Thanks for the Jaguar emulator suggestion, will check it out! Has anyone got any experience using it? Just wondering what the quality is like
Ultrapro on xbox live

Offline TrekMD

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 22615
  • Country: us
  • Karma: 81
    • View Profile
    • http://plus.google.com/+EugenioAngueira
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2018, 12:11:43 PM »
Mirroring is similar but instead of being limited to a certain app sharing the screen, the TV shows your device's screen no matter what it is (the desktop, an app, etc.). 

Going to the final frontier, gaming...

Offline dcultrapro

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1245
  • Country: gb
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Antonyv1982?feature=mhee
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2018, 15:11:03 PM »
Aaah ok, then yeah that is the same as the screen mirroring function on my phone. When I use screen mirroring, the screen is duplicated onto the tv regardless of what is on the screen, the home screen, a game, messaging, a video etc. But the reason I would like to explore using a cable is because the screen sharing does seem a bit laggy when playing games over the wifi... and I thought maybe a hardwired connecting would work better
Ultrapro on xbox live

Offline TrekMD

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 22615
  • Country: us
  • Karma: 81
    • View Profile
    • http://plus.google.com/+EugenioAngueira
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2018, 16:30:01 PM »
If you can get HDMI output that should work better, yes. 

Going to the final frontier, gaming...

Offline dcultrapro

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1245
  • Country: gb
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Antonyv1982?feature=mhee
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2018, 16:48:28 PM »
Sweet, so if I can get HDMI setup, the consensus seems to be that I'll need a cable which goes from the phone to tv and has a extra part for USB charging. If I can get one that works, does anyone know how it will behave? ie; will it always be vertical? Or will it switch dynamically depending on the way the phone is?

Ultrapro on xbox live

Offline TrekMD

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 22615
  • Country: us
  • Karma: 81
    • View Profile
    • http://plus.google.com/+EugenioAngueira
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2018, 22:46:42 PM »
Does your phone have micro-USB or USB-C?  Once you output to HDMI the screen will change based on what you have on the phone, usually. 

Going to the final frontier, gaming...

Offline dcultrapro

  • Hero Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1245
  • Country: gb
  • Karma: 2
    • View Profile
    • http://www.youtube.com/user/Antonyv1982?feature=mhee
Re: Android Emulation... discussion/advice
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2018, 09:34:12 AM »
The phone I will be using is a Sony Xperia Z5 Premium with a microUSB 2.0 (MHL 3 TV-out) port, but I also have a Sony Xperia XZ2 with USB C. I'd rather use the older premium as the xz2 is my main phone. But thats good that it should change the orientation based on whats on the screen. I just need to find a cable now that is reasonably priced and will work.

I've got the FPSE android emulator working for PS1... so that now just leaves the 2 Atari ones. I found a lynx emulator but haven't tried yet, when I get back home I'll get the name of it for you guys incase anyone wants to check it out
Ultrapro on xbox live