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Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« on: July 27, 2013, 20:19:19 PM »
Continuing with the Evolution of series, let's change gears and move away from sports games for the moment.  Let's take a look at the Evolution of Retro Pinball games!  And to start, let's look at the evolution of these games on the...

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2013, 04:39:04 AM »
I was lucky to have experienced Pinball games. Nice to see the 2600 was able to adapt and improve with each release.

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2013, 04:46:22 AM »
I've always enjoyed video pinball games.  On the 2600, Midnight Magic is a favorite of mine but Bumper Dash is no slouch.   The evolution of these games over the years is pretty cool, though, with tables becoming far more sophisticated and realistic.  That's what I'm hoping to portray here.  So, let's move on to another system. 

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2013, 05:03:20 AM »
Never played the Intellivision Pinball. Looks really good :113:

Could have been another commercial, for why Mattel's Intellivision, looked better then Atari's game system!

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2013, 23:41:22 PM »
Wow, that's a lot of games on the ZX and quite varied in quality and type as well.  Really like Pinball Power and Time Scanner.  I find it curious, though, that the table itself on Time Scanner has so few colors even though there are other color being displayed on the screen for the score, etc. 

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 23:53:14 PM »
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Wow, that's a lot of games on the ZX and quite varied in quality and type as well.  Really like Pinball Power and Time Scanner.  I find it curious, though, that the table itself on Time Scanner has so few colors even though there are other color being displayed on the screen for the score, etc.

Time Scanner is actually a conversion of a Sega arcade game! I really like the ST version too.

The lack of colour is down to the legendary Spectrum colour (attribute) clash. I explained it better in the Spectrum thread but basically the hardware only allows you to display 2 colours in each 8x8 square that makes up the screen, one for ink (pixels) and one for paper (background). So when something coloured moved into a square where there is already 2 colours being used attribute clash occurs and it changes colour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_clash

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2013, 00:01:36 AM »
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Wow, that's a lot of games on the ZX and quite varied in quality and type as well.  Really like Pinball Power and Time Scanner.  I find it curious, though, that the table itself on Time Scanner has so few colors even though there are other color being displayed on the screen for the score, etc.

Time Scanner is actually a conversion of a Sega arcade game! I really like the ST version too.

The lack of colour is down to the legendary Spectrum colour (attribute) clash. I explained it better in the Spectrum thread but basically the hardware only allows you to display 2 colours in each 8x8 square that makes up the screen, one for ink (pixels) and one for paper (background). So when something coloured moved into a square where there is already 2 colours being used attribute clash occurs and it changes colour.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attribute_clash

OK then.  That explains it.  :)

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 00:07:28 AM »
That is what makes games on the Spectrum that use a lot of colour like Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles, Dan Dare 3, R-Type and Shadow Warriors more impressive as it was a real skill to do colour graphics on the Spectrum without any clashing.

A lot of coders just took the easy way out and did games in monochrome.

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2013, 01:29:02 AM »
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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2013, 01:53:13 AM »
Not sure if I'm supposed to add videos to these threads, but here's an Arcade video pinball from 1985, and a good one: Pinball Action
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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2013, 01:55:16 AM »
It's good if you can as it makes it easier to visualize the game that you are referring to and to be able to compare with other versions on other systems. 

Pinball Action looks excellent!

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2013, 01:59:08 AM »
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It's good if you can as it makes it easier to visualize the game that you are referring to and to be able to compare with other versions on other systems. 

Pinball Action looks excellent!
What I mean is that I didn't know if these 'evolution' threads were strictly handled by Laird and you. You might want the games posted in chronological order...I wasn't sure.

Anyway yes, Pinball Action is very good. It has 4 screens total. You have to hit the different colored drop targets to open up the corresponding colored spot, which when entered will transport you to another screen which will have a new theme. Red being a fire theme with a dragon IIRC, and so on. I want to say the cabinet had flipper buttons on the side of the console, but I may be thinking of Baby Pac-Man there. This game may have simply been sold in kit form.

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Re: Evolution of Retro Pinball Games
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2013, 02:21:47 AM »
That does sound like a really cool pinball game.  Baby Pac-Man is one that I'd love to see properly adapted to something like the 5200 or 7800 by having someone create the pinball table as a video pinball machine.  The on-screen Baby Pac-Man has been recreated but not the pinball aspect of it.

Insofar as posting video, please feel free.  Mostly it is Laird and I who post them but we don't have the monopoly on that nor do we look for chronological order.  We go forward and backward all the time.  :)

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