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Retro Console Gaming => Sega Chat => Topic started by: TL on July 25, 2012, 19:05:15 PM

Title: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on July 25, 2012, 19:05:15 PM
I don't own one of these but have nearly bought one a few times, maybe you DC fans here will talk me into it!

Dreamcast 50 games (http://http)

This thread is all yours to post any gibberish relating to Sega's last console!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: DreamcastRIP on July 25, 2012, 19:53:43 PM
Any retro gamer without a Dreamcast needs taking outside to be shot.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on July 25, 2012, 19:55:10 PM
Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"
Any retro gamer without a Dreamcast needs taking outside to be shot.

Thankyou for your honest opinion on why I should own one. I think I might just buy a PS2 instead  :P
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: DreamcastRIP on July 25, 2012, 20:32:36 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"
Any retro gamer without a Dreamcast needs taking outside to be shot.

Thankyou for your honest opinion on why I should own one. I think I might just buy a PS2 instead  :P
That qualifies you to be taken outside to be shot... by machine gun fire.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on July 25, 2012, 21:06:40 PM
Its a great machine.. Small but powerfully formed lol.

Get one get one get one..
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on July 30, 2012, 17:05:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouWIRMxj04A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouWIRMxj04A)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MPmgeP4wY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MPmgeP4wY)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puhj5-ZNZeQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puhj5-ZNZeQ)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on August 01, 2012, 10:03:32 AM
To be honest fella these are so cheap at the moment there is no excuse really. You won't be disappointed.

Loads of games that will appeal to you also.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Vyothric on August 01, 2012, 10:19:07 AM
Is that DreamcastRIP in the videos? :P
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on August 03, 2012, 14:26:37 PM
The Dreamcast is great for emulation and it is all software. No modding unless you really feel the need.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on August 03, 2012, 14:57:17 PM
you guys know how much I love the Dreamcast, and though its obviously long since dead and passed its glory days of receiving loads of new releases and being online etc (much like any other retro console lol  ::) ) its still, IMHO, the most awesome console of all time

Now Laird I know you don't like analogue sticks etc but Zapiy is right, a Dreamcast will set you back a measly 20-30 and for me the DC marks the end of the true video game era, when games weren't made first and foremost for profit but because the developers thought they were fun. Everything since then has been about commercial success and milking the consumer with constant rehashes etc. the DC was all about fun and new experiences and MAKING GAMES... not money

Games like JSR, Seaman, Shenmue, PSO, Outtrigger, AFO, Ooga Booga, Headhunter... they weren't made to make money they were true labours of love.

The DC has the most wonderful, eclectic library in history for me, its not saturated with hundreds of sequels to the same series etc its full of hundreds of unique, FUN titles, games like Illbleed, D2, Trickstyle, Powerstone, Blue Stinger, Chu Chu Rocket, Sonic Adventure, Hydro Thunder, Virtua Tennis, Speed Devils... the list could go on forever!

GET ONE NOW!! if theres any games your interested in seeing let me know and I can showcase them for you on my channel or give the vid to RVG's channel?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on August 03, 2012, 15:43:38 PM
I will get one at some point when I have the money. Until then I can just play my brothers!

This thread is for you Dreamcast nuts to talk about the console more than anything else.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on August 03, 2012, 16:23:15 PM
well I'm always happy to talk about my little white box of wonders!! Did anyone else on this forum have the DC from Launch in the UK like me? It was the first and only console I ever bought on launch day. I remember soo vividly my excitement over the upcoming releases, it was kinda surreal upon retrospect being involved in it when it was still brand new, I can remember being so ridiculously stoked when I first got and played PSO online FOR FREE over Dial up... god those were the days lol
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on August 03, 2012, 17:01:39 PM
I completely agree that everyone should own a Dreamcast.
I'll stop short of saying you should be shot for not having one though, a good flogging should do  lol
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on August 03, 2012, 17:04:04 PM
lol, yeah or maybe we should swap all of his digital controllers for Analogue ones when he's not looking lol
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on August 03, 2012, 19:04:57 PM
Quote from: "dcultrapro"
lol, yeah or maybe we should swap all of his digital controllers for Analogue ones when he's not looking lol

Lol  Now that sounds like fun!
I too bought my Dreamcast on day 1 ( in Canada though, not the UK ).
It was also the first time I bought on launch day, great memories! :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on August 04, 2012, 04:49:24 AM
I wish I had bought mine new. It has been one of the best systems I have ever owned.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on December 10, 2012, 21:40:37 PM
Well this is my small Dreamcast collection (without my new Mad Catz controller)

(http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z280/mrkizza/DC.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: AmigaJay on December 11, 2012, 00:16:04 AM
Some deemt games there (Shenmue, crazy taxi, chu chu, sonic, ready to rumble, revolt) though I hate any wrestling game and I can see at least 3 there lol e.o.s is pure crap too but nice start...makes me wanna turn mine on...bit late though!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on December 11, 2012, 00:21:34 AM
Quote from: "AmigaJay"
Some deemt games there (Shenmue, crazy taxi, chu chu, sonic, ready to rumble, revolt) though I hate any wrestling game and I can see at least 3 there lol e.o.s is pure crap too but nice start...makes me wanna turn mine on...bit late though!

I got the Dreamcast for free and just bought one big job lot of games on eBay, you are right though E.O.S. is terrible!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: tomwaits on December 11, 2012, 03:13:27 AM
Dreamcast is one of my favorite consoles too.

I was planning to buy one on the US launch day, but I was at an import shop on the outskirts of NYC in March(?) 1999... shopping for Saturn games. :D They'd just received HotD 2 for the DC. Saw it running on their demo unit and I immediately paid $$$ for a Japanese console and the HotD 2 game/gun box set. (I also bought a US console on 9/9/99)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on December 12, 2012, 03:22:28 AM
Very Nice DC Collection Laird!!!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on December 12, 2012, 09:28:16 AM
haven't been playing my DC much lately I need to get back on it soon got lots of games I still wanna play again specifically Shenmues and Headhunter
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on December 15, 2012, 15:10:07 PM
I still need to try out my new Mad Catz controller!  :o

Might have to give a play over the weekend.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on February 09, 2013, 21:54:21 PM
hey guys, I thought I'd wake this thread up with a quick post about some stuff... Ok so first off I have got more Dreamcast gameplay vids up on my channel, more Evil Twin and Slave Zero and a new feature game that could turn into a walkthrough if people want it, Headhunter! Probably THE must own 3rd person action title on the DC, it came out in 2001 and incorporated elements of MGS while freshening it up. Its also one of the most cinematic and well written DC games outside of the Shenmue pair.

Another thing to talk about, I recently picked up a spare wheel, kb and mouse so if I ever have a mate round that wants to play Quake 3 or MSR we can dual kb and mouse and dual wheel it lol

serious pain in the arse at the moment with my favourite Mad Catz controllers, the cables are going so every now and then when I move slightly the controller will cut out and the game will pause saying the controller is disconnected... what a bastard that is when your trying to do video footage.. sorry if it happens in any of my vids guys!! So anyway bottom line is I invested in 2 new boxed brand new official pads so I can play proper. I much prefer the madcatz stuff but for my vids and my sanity I've opted to get the officials again. The other problem with the MC at the moment is that the controls aren't mapped properly when you start the console, hopefully this is just the controllers and not a sign that my DC's controller ports are fooked lol

anyway come on guys keep the DC lovin up! Any video requests for my channel let me know
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on February 09, 2013, 22:09:54 PM
Mate! you should have shouted out, i've couple of spare official DC pads i'd have given you for free.

Bang on about Headhunter, bloody amazing game, pity the sequel was so flawed (camera and lock on issues when aiming).


Slave Zero was'nt bad either, still have the soundtrack CD here somewhere.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on February 09, 2013, 22:33:01 PM
Wish I had known! I just bought a second controller for my DC recently!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on February 09, 2013, 22:42:15 PM
thanks rogue, shame but nevermind! They REALLY arent expensive lol

Know what Laird? About me wanting controllers? Nevermind lol

Yeah Slave Zero is actually deceptively awesome, the next part in my walkthrough is an excellent boss battle where you have to dodge around a spiral walkway and in the middle is a massive mech type enemy and there is toxic water that is constantly rising.

I'm torn as to what my next game should be for my channel, but maybe I should just finish the ones I'm working on...
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on February 10, 2013, 10:27:41 AM
Dreamcast has ingredient X for me. I can't quite put my finger on why I like the console so much - there's something about it that says "indulgent".

The games, particularly Sega's own, are just so bright and sparkly and it really did bring the arcade home - it's just such a pity that that doesn't seem to be what people wanted - instead they seemed to want EA games, DVD playback, and to believe the crap Sony put out about emotion engines . Ho Hum.

I'm ashamed to say I did my usual vulture technique when I got into Dreamcast. I came in at the death - picked one up brand new in Argos for 50 packed with VF4tb, MSR and Ecco - what a deal. They even threw in an extra controller (albeit 3rd party). All I had to get was a VMU and I got a cheap GAME branded one round the corner. The wife wasn't all that impressed as we were in the middle of a house renovation (late 2001) but I haven't regretted it for one minute since.

My DC collection is something I'm quite proud of even though it's not huge - but its pure quality and I've got a full complement of 1st party controllers with rumble packs, extension cords and a pile of VMUs (some still boxed!) in various colours. I've got four (count 'em!) arcade sticks, 2 keyboards, 2 mice,  2 guns, 2 wheels, and a 3rd party VGA box to complement the VGA SCART lead.

I've even got a 2nd console - on the lookout for the linkup cable to try out the F355 linkup mode...
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: nakamura on February 10, 2013, 10:46:38 AM
Sports games always have been and always will be vital to a console. Hence Fifa being one of the biggest selling games every year.  :)

Little bit cheating but I managed to find a copy of Skies of Arcadia Legends on GC in CEX. It was nice as I sold my DC version a long time back and kinda regretted it. Still this version is generally better with the lower encounter rate.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on February 10, 2013, 11:38:19 AM
awesome idea dude I have 2 dcs and 2 steering wheels, never thought about the link up capabilities!! My my that is an idea lol

My Headhunter video is going up today, did someone say that was a PAL only release?? Seriously good game.

yeah the Dreamcast just had that wow factor for me, it was my baby because when the Saturn died after I came in late I vowed to support the next Sega console 100% from release... it was tough but incredibly rewarding getting all the best games for it on release, being so obsessed with it that I completed most every game I got for it at the time... seriously those were the days
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on February 10, 2013, 11:39:31 AM
Quote from: "nakamura"
Sports games always have been and always will be vital to a console. Hence Fifa being one of the biggest selling games every year.  :)

more's the pity - the only purpose of EA sports games seems to be making the good stuff stick out on pre-owned shelves.

To be fair I was quite surprised when I tried their golf game - it is rather good and the Wii M+ version is excellent. They also pushed out the splendid Boom Blox for example - but my beef is that the segment of the market they tend to aim that is in danger of drowning out any innovation and new IP in the rest of the market.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on February 10, 2013, 11:49:49 AM
Out of date collection pictures - have a few more than this - need to update my pics.

(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.kelly4/dcGames1.JPG)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.kelly4/dcGames2.JPG)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.kelly4/dcGames3.JPG)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.kelly4/dcGames4.JPG)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.kelly4/dcGames5.JPG)
(http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.kelly4/dcGunsAndGames.JPG)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: nakamura on February 10, 2013, 12:10:07 PM
Quote from: "davyK"
Quote from: "nakamura"
Sports games always have been and always will be vital to a console. Hence Fifa being one of the biggest selling games every year.  :)

more's the pity - the only purpose of EA sports games seems to be making the good stuff stick out on pre-owned shelves.

To be fair I was quite surprised when I tried their golf game - it is rather good and the Wii M+ version is excellent. They also pushed out the splendid Boom Blox for example - but my beef is that the segment of the market they tend to aim that is in danger of drowning out any innovation and new IP in the rest of the market.

I do partially agree with you. However EA this generation have tried to put out plenty of new IP that the general public just haven't purchased. Perhaps the industry has become too big for itself now as a vast majority of gamers are much more casual players and action or sports games are enough to satisfy them.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on February 10, 2013, 12:22:21 PM
I think you are pretty much spot on there....people like us look for new IP and when someone is brave enough to publish it not enough people buy it - gaming is maybe going the way of the music industry with the majority of stuff produced for the mainstream being pretty bland but well made.

The new publishing models can come to the rescue which is great in one way - but the absence of physical copies is bad news for collectors.

In my earlier mini-rant I named EA - that was maybe a bit unfair - I was using them as representative of that part of the industry and market that just seems happy to churn out and consume the low risk, low innovation stuff that just doesn't interest me.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: nakamura on February 10, 2013, 12:27:29 PM
Yeah I agree there. I'm not going to deny there aren't some fantastic blockbuster games out there but certainly a new IP is not a very attractive prospect for publishers.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: tomwaits on February 10, 2013, 21:58:19 PM
With all the awesome collection pics posted today and rossi46's Sega porn in the Saturn thread, I figured I'd take a pic of my five 'Dreamcasts'.

(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/tomwaits16/Dreamcasts_zpsb7134fca.jpg)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: DreamcastRIP on February 10, 2013, 22:04:48 PM
Quote from: "tomwaits"
With all the awesome collection pics posted today and rossi46's Sega porn in the Saturn thread, I figured I'd take a pic of my five 'Dreamcasts'.

(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m492/tomwaits16/Dreamcasts_zpsb7134fca.jpg)

Tom and Naomi under a tree...  :P
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on February 13, 2013, 16:56:43 PM
I haven't done proper pictures of my dreamcast collection in a VERY long time, as in pictures of the covers of the games etc, because I have about 180 PAL and 50 odd NTSC its just a massive hassle. But if enough people wanna see it I could be tempted to do it sometime
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on February 14, 2013, 02:39:27 AM
Think 'Clockwork Games' sumned up the DC and it's fate pretty well:

'We love the Dreamcast, but the format just is'nt profitable enough.It's a shame but we have to develop for a platform that gives the biggest return...all but the biggest publishers are in this very same boat'

Man, there were  many Dreamcast games i wanted to see:

System Shock 2, Agartha (No Cliche), Geoff Crammonds GP3, Colin McRae Rall2 and Arcatera.

Laird was right on the chat box, RG needs to do a What If feature on the DC.

And it could also include likes of System Shock 2, Messiah, Max Payne, Halo, Galleon (All annouced for DC), Toe Jam And Earl 3, Shinobi, Castlevania, Take The Bullet, Jump Runner, Gun Valk, Black And white, Blood Omen 2 etc etc.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on February 19, 2013, 11:01:41 AM
so I had an epiphany of sorts the other day. Turns out I had been completely ignoring an obvious solution to my issue with having all my retro consoles in the spare room, relegating them to the back burner or shelf, because playing them in the spare room just isnt the same!!

So I realised... I have 3 Dreamcasts, several controllers and AV Cables why don't I just have one in the Spare Room for recording video and 1 in the front room for playing whenever I want on the big screen via the surround sound system... so I spent all last night swapping the cases (1 of my 3 DC wouldn't load any games so I swapped around the cases etc to get two nice working ones etc) and bottom line is I now have a fully working Dreamcast in the front room AND the spare room! Ok the one in the front room currently won't load the XDP browser but I am hoping to find a way around that shortly.

So yeah, I will post something soon to show how things are looking for you guys but you can tell that I am one very happy Dreamcast nut again! I have a nice RGB scart cable that has additional Red and White audio that I am sending to the Surround Sound Audio Receiver, so not only does it look fantastic on my 42" LED but it sounds phenomenal as well! Gonna go the whole hog tonight and try Daytona USA with a steering wheel AND gonna put it to 3D... CAN'T WAIT!

I was a bit disappointed with the VGA box picture but I think its more to do with my dodgy unofficial box than anything lol
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on February 25, 2013, 22:31:35 PM
Been reading some interviews i'd previousily not read before, with developers around the time Sega annouced the Dreamcast, Criterion, Bizzare Creations and Capcom.

Seems even before Sega had decided which hardware configuration to go with (3DFX or Power VR), they were keen to avoid the mistakes of the Saturn (ie nightmare to code for), so were very busy asking developers what they wanted from the hardware, flying the likes of Bizzare over to Japan, to discuss the new hardware.

There was a lot of optimism from developers that if European gamers got behind the machine, it really could be something special...IF only that had been the case.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on February 28, 2013, 12:16:01 PM
You'd have thought that after seeing the success of Shining Force on MD, Sega would have looked after the developers, Camelot, but NO.

For each of the MD games, they recived the bare minimum funding that Sega gave to out-of-house developers, a situation which got worse from 1990 onwards as new managers were appointed at Sega and the company changed into a 'profit-obsssesed corporation'.

Said new managers viewed Camelot as a 'small, unruly subsidary that wanted things it's own way, and were to be 'forced' out of Sega's main line of buisness.

By the time of 'Shining Force 3' the money Sega gave to Camelot to produce the game, was 50% less than what they'd give for development of 'main games'.

Camelot were in attendance when Sega annouced the Dreamcast, but were told behind the scenes they they were 'No longer needed in Sega's marketplace'


Madness, would have loved to seen a Shining Force game on DC.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on February 28, 2013, 12:48:47 PM
does anyone have any requests for Dreamcast games that they would like to see on my channel? I'm kinda stuck at the moment. I'm doing walkthroughs for Slave Zero, Dragons Blood, Evil Twin and have some playlists that I have continued such as Dreamcast Fighting Games and Dreamcast Shoot em ups, does anyone have any ideas suggestions?

I also plan to change my video style when I am just introducing a game so as they aren't straight playthrough vids but rather a mixture of footage and me discussing my thoughts on the game in general. THEN if people are interested in that game I might start a playthrough from scratch
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on March 27, 2013, 17:40:12 PM
Just found these 2 cool demos for the Dreamcast:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uybHZxvGHgc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uybHZxvGHgc)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lt1o7nwU8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Lt1o7nwU8M)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 04, 2013, 14:22:53 PM
Hey gang,

Things are looking bright for the Dreamcast this year! the following titles are currently slated for a 2013 release:

Sturmwind (redspot games/Duranik)
XYX (NG Dev)
ReDUX (HUCAST Games & KonTechs Ltd)
Ghost Blade (HUCAST Games & KonTechs Ltd)

Not sure if I am missing any other releases but that in and of its self is pretty damn amazing for a console thats been officially dead for 11+ years!!

Don't forget to grab hold of Frame Gride fully Translated to English if you haven't already done so and check out my channel for footage on that and other awesome Dreamcast games ;)

http://www.magicalgamefactory.com/en/fa ... r-solar_1/ (http://www.magicalgamefactory.com/en/factory/pier-solar_1/)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 04, 2013, 14:58:10 PM
That is great news! Thanks for sharing 8)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 04, 2013, 15:44:45 PM
check this out:

Pier Solar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQPrOPgtyr8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQPrOPgtyr8)

XYX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zM6_YqWeU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zM6_YqWeU)

Redux
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXN5nnf2kPk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXN5nnf2kPk)

Sturmwind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsqu6x40ys0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsqu6x40ys0)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 04, 2013, 15:54:25 PM
Pier Solar so reminds me of Lunar on the Mega/Sega CD.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 04, 2013, 16:03:27 PM
you know pier solar was released on md first in 2010 right?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 04, 2013, 16:08:56 PM
Yeah, I never followed its release.

I have always heard kind words about the game.

Just that I do not seem to find the time to play RPG's anymore. When Pier Solar came out I was debating between Lunar for the Playstation or importing the Saturn version.

Still deciding but a DreamCast version sounds tempting 8)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on April 04, 2013, 16:11:06 PM
There are threads about all those games in the homebrew section
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 04, 2013, 16:15:34 PM
yep I know, just thought I'd update the Dreamcast thread with some info... me being a prime example, I often miss news and info about stuff like this and thought it'd be helpful to those who hadn't already heard of them
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 04, 2013, 16:20:23 PM
I always appreciate the info.

Retro Video Gamer is my only choice for gaming news and info 8)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on April 04, 2013, 16:25:27 PM
Quote from: "dcultrapro"
yep I know, just thought I'd update the Dreamcast thread with some info... me being a prime example, I often miss news and info about stuff like this and thought it'd be helpful to those who hadn't already heard of them

I know mate, very good idea.

I was just pointing out where people could find more info and discuss each game ;)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 04, 2013, 16:39:14 PM
thanks! Yeah I was proper hacked off to find that I had missed the kick starter for Pier Solar HD... oh well!

generally speaking re the DC, I'd be interested to know just how many units roughly would be in existence still... I know it would be impossible to ever find out but I'm just fascinated by its constant popularity and support even now. I know it sold just over 10 Million, so there can't be much more than that out there in the hands of the public, just interesting to contemplate. I wonder how many of them are still used by people properly and of those people, how many know about the new games that are still coming out?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 04, 2013, 16:49:12 PM
I used to have three DreamCasts, kept one, sold one and one the laser lens quit working. Tried to get it fixed but ended up scrapping the thing.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on April 04, 2013, 19:13:36 PM
Looks like Sturmwind is due on 24th April - can't wait.

http://duranik.com/ (http://duranik.com/)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on April 05, 2013, 22:17:13 PM
Interesting . . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3uqNxOJays (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3uqNxOJays)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: nakamura on April 05, 2013, 22:43:51 PM
That could be quite fun, after a lot of alcohol.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on April 06, 2013, 13:14:10 PM
Looks good - oddly enough this is in a similar style to the original Mario Bros which was a single screen battle type of game.

There's a battle mode selectable in the SMB3 menu of Msrio All Stars on the SNES which isn't bad at all for a short blast and it's a shame Nintendo themselves haven't expanded upon it like this.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on September 21, 2013, 20:27:09 PM
Just watched this video and thought I'd share it:

[align=center:2toxd815]Video Game History Month - Sega Dreamcast (http://http)[/align:2toxd815]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: DreamcastRIP on September 21, 2013, 21:03:15 PM
The two words from that video that for me best summed up the Dreamcast: Innovative and Fun.  :1:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 21, 2013, 21:18:09 PM
4 words for me:Dreamarena, rich textures and...Beeeeeeeeeeep!!!!! powering up with VMU with dead battery inserted in the controller.

Man, watching that video and the talk of the sheer amount of money on day 1 of trading in USA makes you wonder how console ever bombed so badly (long term) again'st the PS2.

Guess no amount of quality software could compete again'st the sheer hype of 'power' of PS2 and f**king with E.A was not recomended.

:-) Some odd fashion choices in that video mind....
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on September 21, 2013, 21:34:31 PM
It just goes to show what marketing can do.  It makes people believe in something even if it has lower quality than something else in the market competing in the same space.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 21, 2013, 21:54:19 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
It just goes to show what marketing can do.  It makes people believe in something even if it has lower quality than something else in the market competing in the same space.

Amen to that statement:you throw enough money, talk enough meaningless talk about what your system can do, next to that of a rival system, even when said system not only has a far stronger line up at E3, but is showing what it can do with actual games, not tech demo's..then by god you've won the marketing war.

It's only then the arrogance really sets in and as a company you get complacent, let your rivals steal your thunder the generation after........
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: guest4826 on September 21, 2013, 23:59:37 PM
Dreamcast, easily one of the best consoles ever produced and one of the lat game systems. No weird hybrid stuff and whatnot. It was weird for me earlier this September knowing that 14 years ago I was in line at Toy's R' Us to trade in all my Playstation stuff to get one. I still don't regret the trade as it was much more worth it to me as most Playstation games are a dime a dozen anymore. The Dreamcast has so many excellent experiences on it too. I know that some of them have been ported to other systems, but let's be honest, the ports aren't always that good. Crazy Taxi and Rez are great examples of this. Just sad really that it went down the way it did. Still one of the best systems ever. Laird, if you haven't gotten one yet, you should man. Just a great experience all around and did exactly what it was supposed to do unlike all the crap Sony said the PS2 would, and sadly, didn't do.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: DreamcastRIP on September 22, 2013, 00:24:15 AM
Re: Rez on DC and PS2,

PS2 version:

- 60 fps
- 'jaggies'
- poorer quality textures relative to DC version

DC version:

- 30 fps
- Nicer, i.e. smoother-looking, than PS2-looking visuals due to relative ease of utilising hardware-based anti-aliasing
- superior quality textures than PS2 version

I've both versions and, imo, it's a subjective thing as to which is 'best'. Some may prefer the smoother frame rate of the PS2 version whereas others may prefer the otherwise superior quality visuals of the DC version.

Rez HD on Xbox 360 aside, the 'cheating' option would be to play PS2's Rez via the PS2 emulator PCSX2 with all graphics settings maxed out to a level far in excess of what a PS2 itself could produce... provided you've a gaming PC powerful enough to do so of course.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: guest4826 on September 22, 2013, 00:40:23 AM
Quote from: "DreamcastRIP"
Re: Rez on DC and PS2,

PS2 version:

- 60 fps
- 'jaggies'
- poorer quality textures relative to DC version

DC version:

- 30 fps
- Nicer, i.e. smoother-looking, than PS2-looking visuals due to relative ease of utilising hardware-based anti-aliasing
- superior quality textures than PS2 version

I've both versions and, imo, it's a subjective thing as to which is 'best'. Some may prefer the smoother frame rate of the PS2 version whereas others may prefer the otherwise superior quality visuals of the DC version.

Rez HD on Xbox 360 aside, the 'cheating' option would be to play PS2's Rez via the PS2 emulator PCSX2 with all graphics settings maxed out to a level far in excess of what a PS2 itself could produce... provided you've a gaming PC powerful enough to do so of course.

I do like REZ HD for the 360. It was done very well and runs so buttery smooth. I just didn't care for the look of the PS2 version.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 22, 2013, 01:28:11 AM
I own both a PS2+DC (well couple of DC's) and whilst things like Ecco and MDK 2 have had the difficulty level issues adressed on PS2, MDK 2 espically looks far rougher, as it was designed around DC graphics card and Ram, but then you would'nt see something like God Of War on DC...but of the 2 the PS2 had the sheer advantage's of developer support and massive installed user base, meaning developers in the main stuck with it, whilst Sony sorted out the tools they needed to get best from the complex hardware and overcome the limited Ram (though good few jumped ship to Xbox).

The Dreamcast never had that in it's favour, sadly with DC projects being canned left, right and centre, (DC Half-Life code ended up being used in PS2 version etc).I'd loved to have seen just how far the DC could have been pushed, but also a few of the canned ports:Alien Res. and Warzone 2100 from PS1, System Shock 2 from PC etc.

Folks sadly only seemed to wake up to just how powerful the Dreamcast actually was, after it had 'died' at retail.Know a lot of people who said they'd wished they had one when it was launched...

Still great to see it's fondly thought of to this day....
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 22, 2013, 01:48:26 AM
Quote from: "Darques_Pandemonium"
Dreamcast, easily one of the best consoles ever produced and one of the lat game systems. No weird hybrid stuff and whatnot. It was weird for me earlier this September knowing that 14 years ago I was in line at Toy's R' Us to trade in all my Playstation stuff to get one. I still don't regret the trade as it was much more worth it to me as most Playstation games are a dime a dozen anymore. The Dreamcast has so many excellent experiences on it too. I know that some of them have been ported to other systems, but let's be honest, the ports aren't always that good. Crazy Taxi and Rez are great examples of this. Just sad really that it went down the way it did. Still one of the best systems ever. Laird, if you haven't gotten one yet, you should man. Just a great experience all around and did exactly what it was supposed to do unlike all the crap Sony said the PS2 would, and sadly, didn't do.

Just to add some balance, Sega were a little, ahem over optimistic at times with the claims on DC....they had to retract the 'All DC games will run at 60 fps' statement early on and the online claims went south pretty swiftly, but compared to the utter B.S Sony came out with, drop in the ocean....

Sega, for all it's flaws at least learnt lessons from it's own mistakes in terms of hardware design:Made system powerful, easy to use, with hardware A.A and enough Ram to allow developers to do what they wanted to do with the system.The VMU and online console gaming were ideas ahead of their time, a gamble yes, often the potential was ignored by developers, but full credit to them for trying something different.

Pity the DC build quality was'nt all that..went through numerous models due to the resetting issue, hence owning 2 now, but Dc was the last console i owned that really made the industry feel alive once again.

Now it all seems to be hardware that also plays games.....

:-(
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on September 22, 2013, 13:56:59 PM
The reset problem is very easily fixed - only requires use of a screwdriver - plenty of videos on youtube.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 22, 2013, 14:18:51 PM
Quote from: "davyK"


The reset problem is very easily fixed - only requires use of a screwdriver - plenty of videos on youtube.

I got plain sick+tired of unscrewing DC casing, tweaking prongs so they made contact, putting it back together etc.The solution was doing the rounds in DC mags at the time, as soon as it became apparent just how big an issue it was.

It was still poor design on Sega's part.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on September 22, 2013, 17:29:09 PM
Yeah - it's a pity it seems to have been poorly built - I'm sitting with my fingers crossed with mine.

The drive life is my biggest worry about the DC.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: guest4826 on September 24, 2013, 03:05:25 AM
I guess I have been lucky, thus far, as I have never had the resetting issue with any of my Dreamcast systems. Only issues I have ever had are dead systems due to the Laser being dead or the drive being worn out. Then again, maybe if more people stopped playing pirated Dreamcast discs, perhaps there wouldn't be the huge issue. I like the idea of the SD Adapter as for homebrew it's an awesome idea. Sadly, I generally don't see it being used for that as most people seem to be more than happy to just use it for Piracy. Dan Loosen is one of the guys that will tell you that 80% of what killed the Dreamcast in the end was Piracy. It's also one of the reasons that us in the US never got REZ or Shenmue 2, and who could blame Sega? Why make the effort to release the games here if they are already on the Internet for free and getting tons of Downloads? It's one of the Reasons Sega was more than happy to move Shenmue 2 to the XBOX in the US. Very sad for people like me who had been drooling over the game too. Same with Head Hunter as well.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 29, 2013, 21:47:09 PM
Scud Race tech demo on Dreamcast (http://http)

Only ever got as far as a 'Tech.Demo' shown behind closed doors in Sega Japan sadly (and Sega claimed reason it never got converted was because Dreamcast was a new start for the company, so needed new games-err, so how do you explain VF3 getting converted for launch then Sega?), but here's DC Scud Race...
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 29, 2013, 21:55:59 PM
Quote from: "Darques_Pandemonium"
I guess I have been lucky, thus far, as I have never had the resetting issue with any of my Dreamcast systems. Only issues I have ever had are dead systems due to the Laser being dead or the drive being worn out. Then again, maybe if more people stopped playing pirated Dreamcast discs, perhaps there wouldn't be the huge issue. I like the idea of the SD Adapter as for homebrew it's an awesome idea. Sadly, I generally don't see it being used for that as most people seem to be more than happy to just use it for Piracy. Dan Loosen is one of the guys that will tell you that 80% of what killed the Dreamcast in the end was Piracy. It's also one of the reasons that us in the US never got REZ or Shenmue 2, and who could blame Sega? Why make the effort to release the games here if they are already on the Internet for free and getting tons of Downloads? It's one of the Reasons Sega was more than happy to move Shenmue 2 to the XBOX in the US. Very sad for people like me who had been drooling over the game too. Same with Head Hunter as well.

Piracy often been a double-edged sword, it was reported as another key reason the Atari 800XL range failed over here as it was rampant and cracked games appearing long before they hit retail, so why would publishers etc support the A8 range when folks just not buying games.It was rife on the Playstation 1, but ironically drove hardware sales in some quarters as people that would'nt have normally bought a console were buying a PS1 and 'silvers' (copied games) for 5 a shot, hell used to see people selling silvers at car boots down here, ditto with PSP, so rampant people were advertising mod your PSP for CFW on the notice board, lot of people bought PSP's just for this, but then got bored, moved to iPhones, jail broke those...my friend had a wii console, i bouhght her 2 Wii games for Xmas 1 year, she then had her partner mod that to run copies.....

Sadly there seems to be a 'mentality' among many that once they've bought hardware, games should be 'free', clearly no idea how industry works is the nicest way i'll say it.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on September 29, 2013, 22:01:17 PM
Canned Dreamcast games then:

Stampede IO Productions, strange one, a 'herding' game with you as Farmer Blow and faithful dog, shep, you have to round up various animal groups, but the innovational aspect of game design was the sound:

Each species was assigned an instrument and a melody, which could be interactively mixed and panned depending on animals position in the enviroment.

Developers struggled with the game mechanics though, as you'd be controlling farmer and dog, dozens of control methods tried and abandoned, including using the DC's Mic to whistle commands for the dog to obey....
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 07, 2013, 21:13:21 PM
JSR team talking on power of Dreamcast when making the game:

'we studied the Power VR2 very closely and we have been able to make things that are impossible on a Playstation2...the textures are colourful and very detailed.The PS2 would not be able to handle them because of it's weaker memory.another example we exploited one very interesting aspect of Power VR2, the modifer volume, managing the shadows in a very realistic way and in real time.The game runs 16 characters without any lag in performance  at 30 fps.There is is a very high number of polygons.We reinforced this aspect by using several techniques to make this polygon number greater.'
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on October 14, 2013, 16:22:25 PM
Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"
Scud Race tech demo on Dreamcast (http://http)

Only ever got as far as a 'Tech.Demo' shown behind closed doors in Sega Japan sadly (and Sega claimed reason it never got converted was because Dreamcast was a new start for the company, so needed new games-err, so how do you explain VF3 getting converted for launch then Sega?), but here's DC Scud Race...

That looks awesome... first time i have ever seen that.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: AmigaJay on October 14, 2013, 17:59:42 PM
Quote from: "Rogue Trooper"
Only ever got as far as a 'Tech.Demo' shown behind closed doors in Sega Japan sadly (and Sega claimed reason it never got converted was because Dreamcast was a new start for the company, so needed new games-err, so how do you explain VF3 getting converted for launch then Sega?), but here's DC Scud Race...
Remember this video well!
The real reason it never made it out of the arcade was because at the time Sony owned the rights to Porsche cars in home games.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dougtitchmarsh on December 24, 2013, 15:37:47 PM
Just seen this interesting video and thought someone here might like to pull apart some "facts" lol
6 Awesome Dreamcast Facts! -- Fact Surgery (http://http)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on December 24, 2013, 20:00:27 PM
Pretty cool.  I like these videos.  I wonder how much time it takes to make them.  Interesting facts too!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on January 27, 2014, 17:15:43 PM
Just got an email telling me the long delayed DC game Redux: Dark Matters is finally done and shipping. This was the first Kickstarter I backed over a year an a half ago so I'm really happy I will be able to play it at long last.

Here's the the new trailer they just released today
Redux Dark Matters Release Trailer (Dreamcast) (http://http)

You can order the game from their website http://hucast.com/product_info.php?language=en&info=p12_redux-dark-matters-re--sega-dreamcast-.html& (http://http)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: tomwaits on January 27, 2014, 17:43:46 PM
Redux:Dark Matters is also available from play-asia. They're a little cheaper than ordering from Europe... at least for US residents. I'll probably buy this and Neo XYX next month.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on January 27, 2014, 19:05:34 PM
Yup I got mine in the mail! V happy and hopefully this will mark the first of many for 2014! Shaping up to be a good year for dreamcast
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on January 27, 2014, 20:55:15 PM
Great stuff, may have to get these ordered now.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 29, 2014, 00:12:27 AM
Just saw this and thought it was an interesting comparison...NTSC vs PAL!  And it starts off Dreamcast week on CGR!

[align=center:n55rg5zz]Sega Dreamcast PAL vs. NTSC, what's best? (http://http)[/align:n55rg5zz]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Antiriad2097 on March 29, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: "T2KFreeker"
Only issues I have ever had are dead systems due to the Laser being dead or the drive being worn out. Then again, maybe if more people stopped playing pirated Dreamcast discs, perhaps there wouldn't be the huge issue.
I do wish people would stop peddling this myth. There's nothing about a game on CDR that makes it wear out the drive any faster than an official GDR. Official games crunch and grind the drive just as much as copies.

I can't help but wonder if the origin of the myth simply comes down to games available. Easy access to cheap/free copies means more games and thus more time spent playing the system, wearing out the drive in a 'shorter' timescale (in months/years) due to heavy usage.

There's certainly no evidence to support CDR damage, nor any proven source, just constant repetition of the myth. It does make you wonder if Sega started the rumour.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: tomwaits on March 29, 2014, 11:42:18 AM
T2K is right. It's not a myth.

CD-Rs can definitely wear out drives more quickly than pressed media. Using cheap CD-R media or burning at faster speeds than the media can handle will cause repeated retries as the laser struggles to read the data. Dreamcast piracy started around the same time that CD burners and media became affordable for the masses. People were rattling off 4x or 8x burns on the cheapest media they could buy... wearing out Dreamcast drives.

The Dreamcast is also unique in that the data is read from the outside of the GD-Rom to the center. Official GD-Roms were structured with frequently used data along the outer edge of the disc to decrease load times. Early game rips were burned from the center of the CD-R and made no effort to optimize file layout.... adding further wear to the drive. Pirates eventually started padding the start of the data with dummy fills to push game data to the outer edge and started re-arranging file layout to match the GD-Rom, but the early rips had a lot more grinding and slower loading than original discs... wearing out Dreamcast drives.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on March 30, 2014, 19:23:38 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Just saw this and thought it was an interesting comparison...NTSC vs PAL!  And it starts off Dreamcast week on CGR!

[align=center:k9e59j06]Sega Dreamcast PAL vs. NTSC, what's best? (http://http)[/align:k9e59j06]

Very interesting Trek.. Thanks for the vid.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 30, 2014, 19:39:25 PM
I'll keep an eye out for the reviews during Dreamcast week and post the links to them.  :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Antiriad2097 on March 31, 2014, 06:33:48 AM
There's no evidence to support the myth.

Yes, a bad disc will cause wear.

Yes,, GDROM is slightly different from CD.

Yes, data layout can help load times.

But to infer that a copy will, by its very being, cause drive wear, is nonsense.

Use quality media, burn slow, all will be well.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 01, 2014, 00:06:56 AM
Dreamcast week has started and here CGR has posted the review of House of the Dead 2!

[align=center:2nhpo6dq](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/Dan_Makateri/1-4.png)[/align:2nhpo6dq]

[align=center:2nhpo6dq][size=180]House of the Dead 2[/size] (http://http)[/align:2nhpo6dq]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 01, 2014, 23:18:21 PM
Dreamcast Week continues...

[align=center:1z4l6w22](http://www.genkivideogames.com/imagesnew/HKT9401shots.jpg)

[size=180]Visual Park & Sega Dreameye[/size] (http://http)[/align:1z4l6w22]

[align=center:1z4l6w22](http://www.cashforgamers.com/images/P/dc_sega_mouse.gif)
[size=180]Sega Dreamcast Mouse[/size] (http://http)[/align:1z4l6w22]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on April 02, 2014, 08:37:11 AM
[align=center:w9519nr7](http://www.ataristoteles.com/page_data/images/dreamcast/b/seaman-us.jpg)[/align:w9519nr7]

[align=center:w9519nr7][size=180]Sega Dreamcast Seaman[/size] (http://http)[/align:w9519nr7]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 03, 2014, 23:55:21 PM
CGR continues Dreamcast week. This time they have posted a review of Vanishing Point...

[align=center:31a19nra](http://www.consolepassion.co.uk/sites/default/files/sega-dreamcast-vanishing-point.jpg)[/align:31a19nra]

[align=center:31a19nra][size=180]Vanishing Point[/size] (http://http)[/align:31a19nra]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on April 04, 2014, 19:05:46 PM
Vanishing Point reviews were poor (above) but I really like it.
The controls do take time to acclimatise to but if you persevere, it's a solid racer.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on April 04, 2014, 22:01:17 PM
It really was a blessed system..
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TL on May 01, 2014, 13:34:51 PM
[align=center:2b2939dh]Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 (Sega Dreamcast) - Leftover Culture Review (http://http)[/align:2b2939dh]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 09, 2014, 20:06:17 PM
[align=center:3d990r5u]Sega Dreamcast - The Gaming Historian (http://http)[/align:3d990r5u]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on August 11, 2014, 22:22:41 PM
I was pleasantly surprised by that video. By the end of it, I was ready to fire up my mine and play.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 11, 2014, 22:40:51 PM
Quote from: "onthinice"
I was pleasantly surprised by that video. By the end of it, I was ready to fire up my mine and play.

Glad you liked it.  :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on August 11, 2014, 23:03:28 PM
Thanks for taking the time to find these videos.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on August 13, 2014, 00:56:49 AM
nice vids guys, I enjoyed checking them out

Still the best console of all time for me. I am always able to find games I wanna play for the fun even now, some 12 years later. I hope they never ruin its memory by trying to bring out a number 2 but god do I still wish they would make a Shenmue 3 and release PSO2 to the west lol  ::)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on August 15, 2014, 19:59:36 PM
I disctinctly remember games like Metropolis Street Racer being excellent, yet I never got a DC and held out for a PS2, mostly (for me) as I bought into Sony's marketing hooboo and gumpf about emotion engines.

So just a question why did you (anyone) not buy a DC at the time?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Ben on August 15, 2014, 21:29:22 PM
Well, I actually bought an import DC before launch, and pre-ordered one from Eletronics Boutique for the US launch, but I think I can comment a little on what was going on in the U.S. at that time.

Most of my friends went with the PS2, even a couple who had been diehard Sega fans through the Saturn.  Basically, it was a combination of several factors.  The main two were lack of a DVD player (as they were still pricey circa 1999, making the PS2 a bargain) and hatred/distrust for Bernie Stolar, who had become something of a joke in the US game mags, and subsequent loss of faith in the company.   To put it in perspective:  The last game released in the U.S. for the Saturn was Magic Knight Rayearth, in November 1998.  The Dreamcast didn't hit the U.S. until September of 1999, almost a full year later.  Sega loyalists were left with no games for a huge amount of time, or (as with some of my friends) bought the heavily marked down PSX and started building up a library for it, laying the seeds for a switch to Sony with the PS2 (which would be backwards compatible with their newly purchased games). Moreover, the man who killed the Saturn in the U.S., Stolar (who famously called it "The Abortion") was still in charge.

There is another, less mentioned factor, too.  The U.S. gaming mags at the time were using Sega as a whipping boy, and constantly discussing the fights between Sega of America and Sega of Japan, not to mention painting Stolar as something of a buffoon.  Beyond that, though, the US gaming mags were turned against Sega from the launch of the Saturn onwards, mostly decrying 2D dead, Sega stuck in the arcade, and the Saturn underpowered.  Sega also got a lot of bad press for dumping 3dfx at the last minute for the Dreamcast's graphics, while the Saturn, 32X and Mega CD were labeled as failed projects in hindsight (I'm not saying they were or weren't, this is just how they were portrayed).  None of these are topics you want out there in the ether before a new console launch.

So to sum it up, what do I think killed the Dreamcast in the U.S.?
1. Lack of trust in Bernie Stolar and the U.S. vs. Japan management fight, as well as fear the console would die early (as happened with the Saturn, 32X and Mega CD).
2. Bad press, especially over 3dfx, who ended up going bankrupt, and Sega got a lot of blame for it.
3. Lack of a DVD player, as this was a major selling point to cash strapped teens and twenty somethings.

I'm curious to know if the situation was different in the UK, as I suspect it was.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on August 15, 2014, 22:18:22 PM
Oooh 3dfx I'd completely forgotten their mistaken leaking of the DC, that must have really pissed off Sega and influenced their dumping of the tech.

I cant and wont speak 'for the uk' (my egomanical plans for takeover of the country havent come to fruition yet) but the DVD argument is to me almost mute, I think it was 2005 before I bought my first DVD player for instance although that was mostly influenced by the rise of DIVX but thats not what this is about.

I do know despite myself and about 4/5 friends who'd bought various consoles through the ages all ignoring the DC despite (in hindsight) it being well a great console.

This might fling off into another thread again (hey I'm like Doctor Who you dont know where I'm gonna be) but gaming in the late 90's/early 2000's was a lot different to now. Thats not and let it be not be mistaken for some sort of misty eyed reflection but your talk (valid as well) of Sega loyalists doesnt apply today and that trend started around DC time.

I think it speaks volumes for the DC that of all the historical consoles I belive the DC is the one that garners the biggest regret from gamers at not buying one at the time.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on August 15, 2014, 22:34:52 PM
Quote from: "Ben"
So to sum it up, what do I think killed the Dreamcast in the U.S.?
1. Lack of trust in Bernie Stolar and the U.S. vs. Japan management fight, as well as fear the console would die early (as happened with the Saturn, 32X and Mega CD).
2. Bad press, especially over 3dfx, who ended up going bankrupt, and Sega got a lot of blame for it.
3. Lack of a DVD player, as this was a major selling point to cash strapped teens and twenty somethings.

I'm curious to know if the situation was different in the UK, as I suspect it was.

For me, in the UK, none of those reasons applied.
1.Bernie Who??
2. 3dfx, never read anything about this.
3. Never needed a DVD player. I wanted a games console. This reason really gets on my goat more than any other.

It failed, I think, purely down piracy and zombified gamers who couldn't see past anything that had the word PlayStation in it.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Ben on August 15, 2014, 23:06:23 PM
You know, the thing about the DVD player, I agree it is a really stupid reason to buy a "game console".  Yet, I knew several people who had been gaming since the 8-Bit era who bought a PS2 for that exact reason.  I'm not saying it's representative of the population at large, but it sure didn't help the Dreamcast, either.  Also, Bernie Stolar is an interesting guy, I *think* he was also responsible for the Atari Lynx before he ended up at Sony.  He's famous for his time at Sony, as he opposed bringing over Final Fantasy VII and thought Americans would never buy RPGs.  This is also why it was left to Working Designs to bring over sparse few RPGs for the Saturn when he went to SoA.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on August 15, 2014, 23:25:46 PM
I'm too drunk to type straight, I'll be back tomorrow.  :113:

Short version - DVD was overated and DC was underaprciated.

There are 179 charachters in that sentance, I pressed delete 2764 time because of errors.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on August 16, 2014, 01:10:06 AM
:)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: dougtitchmarsh on August 16, 2014, 18:43:39 PM
At the time the Dreamcast arrived I had 3 kids and a mortgage to spend money on. I waited until they were available second hand to get one.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on August 17, 2014, 18:09:16 PM
Reason I did not buy the Saturn was from getting burnt from buying the Genesis, 32X and Sega CD. Lack of support by Sega.

Reason for not buying a DreamCast, not sure. Electronic Arts was not supporting it. I was still gaming on the Genesis and Sega CD. Computers were finally make progress with better graphics and games. Colonization and Panzer General were taking a lot of time on my PC.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on October 19, 2014, 22:15:15 PM
[align=center:12g7nf26]Zombie Revenge (Sega Dreamcast ) (http://http)[/align:12g7nf26]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: llayboy on October 27, 2014, 13:27:06 PM
I got my Dreamcast for Christmas after launch and I think it was so ahead of its time. Xbox Live and PSN have the Dreamcast to thank as the Dreamcast was the first console to dabble in the world of online gaming.

Would love to get a full Dreamcast collection but a lot of the games go for very high prices (ie Shenmue games)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on October 27, 2014, 18:09:30 PM
How expensive are those games, llayboy?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: llayboy on October 27, 2014, 18:11:57 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
How expensive are those games, llayboy?

I've seen them go for anywhere between 20 to like 70 you've just gotta get lucky.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on October 27, 2014, 18:13:56 PM
Quote from: "llayboy"

Quote from: "TrekMD"
How expensive are those games, llayboy?

I've seen them go for anywhere between 20 to like 70 you've just gotta get lucky.

That's quite the price range! 
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: llayboy on October 27, 2014, 18:16:30 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Quote from: "llayboy"

Quote from: "TrekMD"
How expensive are those games, llayboy?

I've seen them go for anywhere between 20 to like 70 you've just gotta get lucky.

That's quite the price range!

Like I said it really depends on how lucky you are and obviously the condition of the games
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2014, 18:56:25 PM
I wanted to respond to one thing, which is the popular idea that the Dreamcast is the first online console (or even Sega's).  Actually, Sega briefly experimented with dial up on the Mega Drive/Genesis before fully pushing it on the Saturn with the NetLink modem (which I had and used at the time).  The Mega Drive modem was only released in Japan and only worked with Mark I consoles, but the Saturn NetLink was supported in the US and UK for 4 games.  Here are two good videos on that:
SEGA Mega Drive Modem - Unboxing + Review - Game Toshokan Bundle ???????? (http://http)
Sega Saturn Netlink: What is it, how it works and some online matches (http://http)
Also worth remembering Sega had Heat.net for the PC as far back as the mid-90's (long, long before Steam existed): SegaSoft HEAT.NET (Sampler CD Promo Trailer) (http://http)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on October 27, 2014, 19:20:00 PM
45 in my local games shop, they have loads of pads too

If your in the UK I've seen the best prices at second hand shops like Cash Converters.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2014, 19:59:30 PM
I have to say, that has been my experience in the U.S. as well.  Just because people are asking these crazy prices on ebay or Amazon doesn't mean they are going to get them, I usually find games much cheaper at used game shops and flea markets.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on October 31, 2014, 02:49:36 AM
So, now I'm a happy owner of a Sega Dreamcast.  I've started to build up my collection and I've already ordered some homebrews.  I guess I need to get an SD card adapter for some of the homebrew games that are released for play using one of these.  Any recommendations are welcome.  :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: 64bitRuss on November 06, 2014, 23:39:10 PM
I'm going to buy one of these on ebay tonight or this weekend. I'm looking for a complete  NTSC system, is there anything important I should know before I get one? Such as are there any known mechanical problems with certain releases of the console? Do I want the first issue with the white box, or the later release with the black 'smash pack' box etc...?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Ben on November 06, 2014, 23:42:49 PM
The original Dreamcasts with a 1999 manufacture date are the ones to have.  They can use all of the boot disc add ons (like Bleemcast) that were disabled in later models.  They also have a reputation for better build quality, a lot of the later ones had fans that are notorious for noise. 
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: 64bitRuss on November 06, 2014, 23:48:44 PM
Thank you very much, that is helpful!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 07, 2014, 04:07:26 AM
I have the  white model.  I was surprised by the weight of it! 
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: sloan on November 07, 2014, 22:57:37 PM
DC is heavier than Gamecube or PS2, but might be rivaled by Xbox from that generation for overall weight. Awesome system to own. Glad you got one.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 07, 2014, 23:31:46 PM
Yes, the heft from it suprrised me!  Not even the huge 5200 comes close!  LOL
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: 64bitRuss on November 11, 2014, 02:26:38 AM
Stupid question: Does a person require a Japanese DC to play imports, or is there a workaround without modding?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 11, 2014, 02:28:17 AM
I've been told you have to use a special boot disk to play imports.  No hardware modding needed.  I've not tested this yet.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Ben on November 11, 2014, 06:55:32 AM
That is correct, although the GameShark also works.  A free boot disc can be downloaded here: http://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/utopia.php (http://http)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 11, 2014, 11:41:33 AM
Thanks.  I've saved the link.  :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: llayboy on November 15, 2014, 12:12:56 PM
I think mine is finally dying. Managed to get hold of a copy of Shenmue as I've never played it before. And it's struggling to load and it's going back to the Dreamcast menu during gameplay
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: JoeMusashi on November 15, 2014, 16:12:28 PM
Quote from: "llayboy"
I think mine is finally dying. Managed to get hold of a copy of Shenmue as I've never played it before. And it's struggling to load and it's going back to the Dreamcast menu during gameplay

Is it acting as though it keeps resetting? There's a common fault with the PSU contacts that can cause this, which is easy to fix.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: llayboy on November 15, 2014, 16:36:47 PM
Not resetting you'll be playing a game and then all of a sudden you go back to the Dreamcast menu and it says "checking disk"
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: 64bitRuss on November 19, 2014, 21:59:45 PM
Ok, I want to make sure I get this right so I don't waste any money. I need an expert's help on exactly what I need to play imports and the gameshark.

I have found the gameshark CDX kit that comes with a disc of some kind, and a memory card 'dongle' device as well. Now, can I get away with just buying the black memory card thing, or do I need the entire kit with the disc as well?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on November 19, 2014, 22:28:20 PM
Quote from: "64bitRuss"
Ok, I want to make sure I get this right so I don't waste any money. I need an expert's help on exactly what I need to play imports and the gameshark.

I have found the gameshark CDX kit that comes with a disc of some kind, and a memory card 'dongle' device as well. Now, can I get away with just buying the black memory card thing, or do I need the entire kit with the disc as well?

The Gameshark is what I use to play imports, and I use both the disc and the black dongle that plugs into the VMU slot. I think there is a light version that only has the CD but I'm not sure if that will work for playing imports or not. If you get the entire kit you should be good to go, but you definitely need the CD as the dongle wont do anything on it's own.

Edit: Just looked around a bit and it seems the only difference is with the Lite you have to use your own memory card to store codes, where the dongle has codes already on it. If you just want to play imports the Lite will work just fine :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: 64bitRuss on November 19, 2014, 22:57:54 PM
Ok thanks for the advice :)

Kind of a bummer, with the Saturn the Action Replay plus sure makes it easier to play imports!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on November 19, 2014, 23:14:02 PM
No problem :) I should also add that [member=5178]Lorfarius[/member] mentioned in the chatbox one day that you can just download and burn your own disc if you don't want to buy one. Not sure how that works or where to go to find it though.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 20, 2014, 01:16:24 AM
Saw this over at RetroCollect and I think it might be of interest:  Hardware Review: GDEmu - Sega Dreamcast SD Card ISO Loading Disc Drive Replacement (http://http).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMapOcqarZs#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMapOcqarZs#ws)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Antiriad2097 on November 20, 2014, 19:14:39 PM
Quote from: "Ben"
That is correct, although the GameShark also works.  A free boot disc can be downloaded here: http://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/utopia.php (http://http)

Ben linked to the downloadable Utopia boot disc on the previous page. Everything you need to download and burn the disc is at that link.

Utopia will boot most games. There's a few that it won't cope with, but you can always just download a copy of the Gameshark disc for those.

Personally, I rarely use bootdiscs. I find it easier to just download a rip of the few imports games I wanted, those usually boot on any region of system. Added bonus is it keeps my original discs minty fresh.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on November 20, 2014, 19:52:29 PM
Quote from: "Antiriad2097"
Quote from: "Ben"
That is correct, although the GameShark also works.  A free boot disc can be downloaded here: http://dreamcast-talk.com/forum/utopia.php (http://http)

Ben linked to the downloadable Utopia boot disc on the previous page. Everything you need to download and burn the disc is at that link.


Thanks :) I missed that.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: 64bitRuss on December 29, 2014, 01:36:32 AM
Any insight on the best steering wheel to get for the DC? The most promising one I've seen on ebay is probably the concept 4. But, there's a couple of different MadCatz wheels that have gear shifts, though my opinion of MadCatz over the years is fairly low quality from experience.

Someone is selling brand new V3fx wheels for around $40 shipped, but I remember having one of those for the N64 and the pedal set quit working in rather short order. However I remember the steering wheel assembly to be good and accurate. It's too bad all the best wheels are on PC these days, they have force feedback, gear shifts and big ass chairs you can buy to mount them on.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on December 29, 2014, 23:20:53 PM
Concept 4 is a really nice wheel.. can't comment on the others as i have never used any others.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: 64bitRuss on December 31, 2014, 01:44:25 AM
The concept 4 looked like the best one, so I bought a CIB unit on ebay. Also bought a copy of Giga Wing and Rush 2049! I'm all in on Sega lately.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on January 13, 2015, 00:38:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfTv0IvGYwU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfTv0IvGYwU#ws)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on January 14, 2015, 17:26:44 PM
Sony you tramp. I heard that Sony was going with Nintendo at the same time and now I find out they were with Sega also.

I did not know.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on January 15, 2015, 01:11:54 AM
They were trying to learn from both of them to then come out with their own console!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on January 23, 2015, 12:34:39 PM
Just saw this.  Looks really cool.  Check out more details here:  A SEGA Dreamcast Controller With a Built-in Screen (http://http)

[align=center:3fc4fe34]http://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1421914688&v=IzXQthsErzM&feature=player_embedded&x-yt-cl=84503534[/align:3fc4fe34]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on January 23, 2015, 14:44:42 PM
Very cool, and he made it in two days!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on January 23, 2015, 15:56:21 PM
That screen built into the controller is flipping awesome.

As is this news.

http://youtu.be/Aa2V6CuCb38 (http://youtu.be/Aa2V6CuCb38)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on January 23, 2015, 17:08:51 PM
Yep, 2015 is going to be a great year for the Dreamcast! I've already paid for three of those games, just waiting for them to be finished :113:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on January 23, 2015, 21:05:08 PM
That's cool that several games are being released this year for the Dreamcast.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on January 24, 2015, 09:49:14 AM
I hope to pick a few of them up thats for sure. :113:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 25, 2015, 14:46:22 PM
That looks really cool!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on April 25, 2015, 15:44:37 PM
Very cool! Great to see what people come up with :113:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: hamie96 on April 25, 2015, 21:09:37 PM
I'm impressed the modding community for the Dreamcast is still going strong. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Ben on May 05, 2015, 02:27:48 AM
Quote from: "hamie96"
I'm impressed the modding community for the Dreamcast is still going strong. Keep up the good work!
There is just a lot of Sega nostalgia still out there, I think (including on my end), and the DC is relatively easy to develop for. It also has native VGA out, meaning that if you want a proper retro console that will look great on even a relatively new HDTV (before they stopped dropping higher VGA resolutions or VGA altogether) it's a good platform.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on July 05, 2015, 21:11:39 PM
One can dream...

[align=center:2ejhnc7p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqyEhVwl2MI[/align:2ejhnc7p]
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 14, 2015, 19:32:31 PM
I found this Dreamcast News (http://http) site and it looks like there's going to be a couple more DC games hitting Kickstarter. You will need to use translate to read it.

One of them is a Bomberman style game called Alice Dreams Tournament (http://http) and the other is actually a sequel to the game Mr. Nutz, Mr. Nutz 2 (http://http).

Great seeing all this development, the Dreamcast will never die :113:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on September 14, 2015, 23:38:39 PM
That's great indeed!  Long live the Dream...cast!  ;)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on September 20, 2015, 21:06:18 PM
If only that DC 2 was real.. :20:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on December 02, 2015, 19:45:35 PM
So it turns out that the Dreamcast 2 video and mock up isn't completely made up. I just came across this petition (http://https) to make it a reality. They only need another 156 signatures to hit 15,000! Of course this means nothing and Sega probably won't do anything about it, but still cool to see all the support :113:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on December 03, 2015, 00:57:55 AM
That is cool!  They are past 16,000 now.  As you say, it won't get anywhere but still cool to see. 
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: zapiy on December 07, 2015, 19:13:18 PM
Sega will be back.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on December 07, 2015, 22:13:59 PM
That's a pretty bold statement Zapiy, hope it turns out to be true! The petition has over 21,000 names now :113:
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on December 07, 2015, 23:03:27 PM
That's awesome!  I wonder what they'll do with this. Laugh it off or take it seriously?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on December 08, 2015, 04:25:24 AM
You'd think Sega would say something eventually, even if it is just to say no. It's not a terrible idea though.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: davyk on March 24, 2016, 20:43:05 PM
Wow - it's a bit quiet in here!

Getting into Gigawing DC-wise this week. Using that lovely arcade stick too....
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on July 31, 2016, 00:51:14 AM
Thought I'd wake up this thread with this video from Gaming History Source looking at artwork for Dreamcast Games...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PKxMkFZ8fc
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Saturn on August 02, 2016, 15:21:40 PM
That is one heck of a collection of cover arts there. Can't imagine going out in the wild to track down all of those so maybe he had them all already and decided to put together a video showcasing them.
Some of the art is ridiculously good and I miss that about the DC. So many Japanese games that I'd like to have. So many American titles, at that.
Could always go the repro route but since I'm down to one working unit, think I'll leave it under glass for the time being and continue pouring all my resources into the Jaguar :D

The Dreamcast 2 would've been incredible. Too bad it's shut down (http://www.thedreamcastjunkyard.co.uk/2016/06/dreamcast-2-project-shuts-down.html).
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2016, 18:33:23 PM
Lots of covers indeed.  I set this video going while doing stuff on my desk to enjoy the music and the images. 

Regarding the Dreamcast 2, Rerez had a video recently talking about why there shouldn't be a Dreamcast 2.  Looks like that came to happen anyway given what you posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouVhgIRHq58
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Saturn on August 02, 2016, 20:08:23 PM
Good video minus that crybaby on the right. Jeeze, the video would have been half as long if he would have stopped whining. Hope Rerez redoes it without that guy.
Fun to revisit the system and talk about the games. DC is one of a kind. Never liked the cd+g disks they used and all the pirated versions do suck but still have a lot of love for the real thing.
If only I had some backup units I could still be enjoying the library outside of emulators.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2016, 23:07:57 PM
Glad you liked it.  I know that guy is whining but some people can't be helped!  LOL
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 08, 2016, 22:15:03 PM
The  Dreamcast Junkyard (http://www.thedreamcastjunkyard.co.uk/2016/09/competition-win-propeller-arena-for.html) is having a competition where they are giving away 3 copies of the unreleased DC game Propeller Arena. They made very professional looking packaging for them and they look great. Details on how to enter are in the link :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Saturn on September 09, 2016, 02:46:01 AM
What a gorgeous looking game from that screenshot. I didn't read up on the article as to why it was canceled by Sega, but sure is a pity considering what a piece of work it is. Would like to get my hands on a copy. Might be enough to take my last remaining DC unit out from under lock and key to play it. :D
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Saturn on September 09, 2016, 03:03:59 AM
I didn't read up on the article as to why it was canceled by Sega, but sure is a pity considering what a piece of work it is.
Ugh, ok just read why :-\
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 09, 2016, 05:03:03 AM
Yeah, really bad timing! The game is available online for free and there's repro sellers who offer physical copies of it too. The real draw here is the packaging.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Saturn on September 09, 2016, 05:06:53 AM
I just grabbed a couple of PAL versions. (I guess it's PAL only?) Will see if either can be used in Chankast or similar.
I'd like to experience it but don't know if a physical copy is the way to go. Fantastic looking game, though. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 08, 2017, 00:05:03 AM
https://youtu.be/TcTWG8aMazk

The Sega Dreamcast may have sold poorly, but it had many great games still worth playing today. Plus those VMUs were so cool! This Dreamcast buying guide is perfect for new collectors wanting to know about the hardware, accessories and games you should buy day 1!

Buy Dreamcast here: http://goo.gl/7OnBhY

Games Shown:
Soul Calibur
Star Wars Episode 1 Racer
Hydro Thunder
The Typing of The Dead
Skies of Arcadia
Gunbird 2
Zombie Revenge
Bangai-O
Marvel vs Capcom 2
Power Stone
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on May 09, 2017, 00:37:09 AM
Here is a nice video review of the Sega Dreamcast by RetroCore.  The video reviews the console and quite a few games.

https://youtu.be/RmaoLbBXlog
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on May 10, 2017, 15:27:05 PM
I like the bus driving game. Godzilla looks great. Always a big Sega fan and really enjoy the system but after the Saturn debacle it was hard to be enthusiastic when it first launched.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on May 11, 2017, 02:17:38 AM
From what I've read, the Godzilla games doesn't play very well.  In fact, seems that no Godzilla game has been good on any system!  Do you know of a good one?
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on May 11, 2017, 15:34:59 PM
 ;D I had Godzilla for the NES. Taken for the time period, Godzilla was not a bad game. Think there were two NES Godzilla games. Being a fan like myself makes me tend to overlook the rough parts of a bad Godzilla game.

Can you tell I love Godzilla. I mentioned the name Godzilla a few times.  :)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on May 11, 2017, 23:36:47 PM
I'm sorry, I'm not clear.  Do you like Godzilla?  LOL  Good to see you enjoyed the NES game. 
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: onthinice on May 12, 2017, 14:27:38 PM
LOL!

All this Godzilla talk makes me want to play the DreamCast. May not be a Godzilla game but there are plenty of titles to choose. Ok maybe I do not own that many but it is still worth enjoying. Yes, I do like Godzilla.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on May 12, 2017, 21:27:07 PM
:)  I may now look for that Godzilla game just out of curiosity.  I would imagine it is not an expensive one to get for the DC!
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: AmigaJay on May 17, 2017, 14:55:42 PM
New (well port) game for the Dreamcast due out this month - Breakers - a Neo-Geo port

You can pre-order here - http://www.play-asia.com/breakers-play-asiacom-exclusive/13/70b539 (http://www.play-asia.com/breakers-play-asiacom-exclusive/13/70b539)
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on May 17, 2017, 17:11:44 PM
Kinda odd to see a licensed port after all these years but still pretty cool. I have the original for NGCD and it's a good fighting game.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on May 17, 2017, 18:18:49 PM
That is cool!  I have a coupon with Play Asia I can use for this.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 27, 2018, 20:00:00 PM
This thread hasn't seen action in some time. Figured I'd wake it up with this video from Top Hat Gaming Man looking at the Dreamcast and whether it is worth playing in 2018...

https://youtu.be/xbwaU7DEy4E
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: pinkabyss74 on May 06, 2018, 11:38:45 AM
The homebrew scene alone makes it good. I'd get an early model DC as you can play burned games with em hehe~

Also the amount of quality was really good on the DC.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: TrekMD on May 06, 2018, 14:27:28 PM
The DC is an awesome console.  I only got it a few years ago and it is unfortunately that Sega did not continue making hardware because you have to wonder where they would have been today.
Title: Re: The Sega Dreamcast Thread
Post by: pinkabyss74 on May 07, 2018, 13:04:49 PM
I'd say they'd ended up in a similar position to Nintendo except being more lax about things and in general less screws loose.