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Title: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 25, 2012, 09:18:47 AM
So I was thinking about the Mega CD and have 1 big question in particular. Is Mega CD region free?

I had always wondered about this and I'm thinking it probably is but the mega drive isn't, so what happens? You can play a US Mega Drive game on a PAL Mega Drive + Mega CD but you can't play a US disc? was just interested in case I find a game I want cheap in the US online shops
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 25, 2012, 13:22:46 PM
Nope I am afraid not  :-[
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 25, 2012, 14:16:46 PM
bummer, ok so I wanted to ask this; and I apologise if its not a subject your meant to discuss, I have rom images for the Kega Fusion 364 emulator that does mega cd/32x and all other 8/16bit consoles by Sega, and it appears as though all the sega cd roms are image files.

Turns out there is a way you can burn them to work on your actual mega cd, and I was wondering if the Mega CD would need to be modded to read these burnt discs or would it read them ok and also would these discs be effected by region?
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: DreamcastRIP on April 25, 2012, 15:13:19 PM
(http://www.outridersearch.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/piracy1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 25, 2012, 15:22:08 PM
lol, ok what does that mean? have I been a naughty boy? I figured as we are actively talking about long dead consoles/hardware I didn't think that it would be a controversial topic... is you sayin I is a filthy pirate? lol
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 25, 2012, 15:49:26 PM
Mega CD will not play burned CD's unless its been modded.

Also we don't discuss such things here as its highly illegal  ;D
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 25, 2012, 15:55:12 PM
riiiiight. ok well at least I've got that cleared up, just thought I'd ask, not sure what's illegal about it when its a nearly 20 year old console that's no longer in production. I could understand if I were asking about pirating on a current gen... anyway nevermind! I shant mention it again I just wondered if it was possible as I have the Emulator program ;)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 25, 2012, 16:11:09 PM
Quote from: "dcultrapro"
riiiiight. ok well at least I've got that cleared up, just thought I'd ask, not sure what's illegal about it when its a nearly 20 year old console that's no longer in production. I could understand if I were asking about pirating on a current gen... anyway nevermind! I shant mention it again I just wondered if it was possible as I have the Emulator program ;)

Companies are very protective of their copyrights and if somebody happens to this being discussed openly on a forum then we could face legal action and get shut down. Only recently a SNES forum was shut down by Nintendo for just this.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 25, 2012, 16:15:42 PM
furry muff, my apologies  :-
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: zapiy on April 25, 2012, 16:26:36 PM
It's ok bud. Its a very fine line even in the world of emulators.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 25, 2012, 16:29:45 PM
no worries

So has anyone tried Terminator on the Sega CD? It looks like a souped up genesis platformer with nice visuals and music, and I've heard good things. Work 17 would anyone say?
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 25, 2012, 16:43:37 PM
Quote from: "dcultrapro"
no worries

So has anyone tried Terminator on the Sega CD? It looks like a souped up genesis platformer with nice visuals and music, and I've heard good things. Work 17 would anyone say?

I have it and think its very good, its basically the same game as the cart version but with a ton more levels and a brilliant soundtrack. Thats a good price too as it rarely goes for less than 20, I was lucky to get mine from somebody on another forum for about 10.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Console Compulsive on April 25, 2012, 17:53:48 PM
Datel Electronics produced a cartridge add on for the mega CD called the Pro CDX which apparently lets you play import Mega CD games on the European units. They are fairly sought after and now sell for around 50-75 on ebay but i'm not sure if it will allow for the screen resolution change from NTSC to Pal.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 25, 2012, 18:12:07 PM
Quote from: "Console Compulsive"
Datel Electronics produced a cartridge add on for the mega CD called the Pro CDX which apparently lets you play import Mega CD games on the European units. They are fairly sought after and now sell for around 50-75 on ebay but i'm not sure if it will allow for the screen resolution change from NTSC to Pal.

Nearly all TV's auto detect that.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Console Compulsive on April 25, 2012, 18:38:52 PM
All except for the one in my games room. lol  My old 21" CRT was still working perfectly when I got my LCD tv. So I thought after years of heavy use I would put it out to grass in the retro games room. 19 years old and still running perfectly  :D
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on July 16, 2012, 23:48:26 PM
I was looking at what Mega CD games there were that were not released in PAL and came across this game - Ninja Warriors

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8ZPKFa39s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI8ZPKFa39s)

I remember playing both the Spectrum and arcade version of this. It seems strange that a game that was so popular in the arcades was never released over here. Wouldn't mind playing this Mega CD version even if it does look a bit boring and dated these days.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: guest4277 on July 19, 2012, 13:59:52 PM
Great version of an awesome theme!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on July 30, 2012, 17:01:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1lRhSeSbxw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1lRhSeSbxw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF8RIAb8o00 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF8RIAb8o00)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 08, 2013, 19:40:16 PM
Surprised to see Zero giving good scores to 2 MCD games i saw slamned elsewhere:

Sol-Feace Overall 80%

Graphics, Sound, addictiveness+Playability all getting 8's.

Earnest Evans Overall 90% and a Mega Zone award.

Graphics 9, sound 8, addict.9+Playability 8.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: dcultrapro on April 08, 2013, 20:20:19 PM
Sol Feace is AWESOME! Who would slam that? I need to get into my Mega CD more soon, I have 20+ great games including Wolfchild, Terminator and Battle Corps to name a few
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 08, 2013, 21:17:09 PM
Quote from: "dcultrapro"
Sol Feace is AWESOME! Who would slam that? I need to get into my Mega CD more soon, I have 20+ great games including Wolfchild, Terminator and Battle Corps to name a few

I probably would have, had i been given it to review at the time.Never went much on it as a MCD owner, BattleCorps and Terminator S.E were both A)Fantastic and B)Exactly the sort of games i wanted from the MCD.

UPDATE:Looks like i'll be ordering a slice or 2 of humble pie for my table, C+VG loved it as well:

Frank O'conner reviewed it:

Graphics 86%, Sound 90%, Playability 87%, Lastability 88%.

Overall 89%.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 09, 2013, 12:14:36 PM
Heavy Nova MCD review/C+VG

Graphics 81%
Sound 90%
Playability 78%
Lastability 79%
Overall 80%

Reviewer (and i've forgotten who it was... :-( ), sais rumour had it, developer was told to treat development of game as nothing more than a MD Cartridge game, just with the bonus of huge amounts of storage space, so they threw in lots of:Levels, sprites, music etc, but made no use of the MCD custom sprite chips.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 09, 2013, 13:49:54 PM
It's a pretty crap game so that score surprises me
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 09, 2013, 14:28:22 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
It's a pretty crap game so that score surprises me

Given C+VG's history of scores given over the years, nothing surprises me.

Love getting feedback from people who played/own the games i'm bringing up on here and seeing how they differ in views to those the 'professional' reviewers had.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 09, 2013, 15:31:07 PM
Do you have any of the console reviews Rogue Trooper? Curious to see what the rating for a Mega CD system was when it came out.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 09, 2013, 18:27:28 PM
Quote from: "onthinice"
Do you have any of the console reviews Rogue Trooper? Curious to see what the rating for a Mega CD system was when it came out.

Whilst i've several features looking at the Mega CD, be it on it's own or a VS (SNES VS MCD), UK Press did'nt rate it as such, after all the hardware is only as good as the games that used it, so 'best' i can do is continue to post game review scores from various UK Publications and you guys say wether you think they are 'fair' or not.

Hows that sound?-Not touching things like MEGA though, those muppets initally claimed the MCD had NO custom sprite hardware, Doh!.

2 EDGE review scores on MCD:

Slipheed 7/10 (graphically far more impressive than starfox, but not as involving, pathetic bosses).

Ecco The Dolphin 8/10.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 09, 2013, 18:52:29 PM
Is the Model I or II preferred more in some parts of Europe over other parts?
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 09, 2013, 19:03:09 PM
Model 1 for Stereo sound  8)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 09, 2013, 21:48:54 PM
Few examples of UK mag scores for MCD games, giving OVERALL ratings only:

Ground Zero Texas:84% Mean Machines Sega.75% (and OK rating) in C+VG

Chuck Rock II 75% C+VG

Powermonger: 76% Sega Magazine.74% Mean Machines sega (slated somewhat for being slower than MD cart version).

Dragons Lair:50% Sega Magazine. 67% Mean Machines.


These ALL from Mean Machines:

Night Trap 89%
Sewer Shark 82%
Final Fight 95%
NFL's Greatest 5%
Prince Of Persia 72%
Jaguar XJ220 90%
Time Gal 63%
Double switch 89%



Also:Both EDGE+Mean Machines made good note of Thunderhawk doing things SNES with Mode 7 could'nt do-ie banking of background and EDGe also pointed out the Texture Mapping.

Asked about MCD in letters page, Jaz rignal said hardware was good, games varied in quality.


Mean Machines preview of Slipheed was a bit miss-leading in places, bigged up the plotted 500,000 Polygons, but did'nt make clear they were pre-rendered, stored on CD then streamed off, caused a few readers to get tad confused as to what MCD could do.

Also, recal likes of Mean Machines etc pointing out that with things like Flashback, Red Zone, Ranger-X, Contra Hard Corps, Gunstar Heroes etc pulling off various things you expected only from MCD-ie cutscenes (Flashback had on cart), FMV+Sprite tom foolery (Red Zone) etc did you really need to spend 270 to get the best from your MD? Issue not helped by cartridge version of Prince Of Persia being better than the MCD version.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 09, 2013, 22:49:38 PM
Found a few more odds n sods from the UK press:

C+VG in previewing it from Japan, talked of their being no reason not to expect SEGA to convert likes of Rad Mobile, G-Loc, Powerdrift (any of their Scaler based coin-ops) to MCD as hardware ideally suited (we knew that, C+VG knew that, SEGA however.....sigh.).

In their SNES VS MCD feature, they said MCD was a 'dead hard' bit of kit, only trouble was 1st few games were'nt really tapping into the hardware, Sol Feace-they said was a dissapointment in the graphics dept, no better than MD cart shooters like Thunderforce etc and could be mistaken for a cart game....and ' a little birdie' had told them Sonic 2 was appearing on MCD 1st.....


British games press eh? lol.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 10, 2013, 14:34:32 PM
Another 'wave' of UK magazine review scores:

Lunar (Mean machines) 86%

These ALL from C+VG:

Battlecorps 92%
SW:Rebel Assault 70%
Brutal 88%
Fifa Int.Soccer 86%
Sensible Soc.84%
Shadow Of The Beast 2 34%
Lethal Enforcers 81% (although review blurb box has it as A1200!)
Soul Star 91%
Tomcat Alley 54%
Jurrasic Park 87%
Corpse Killer 63%
Night striker 9%
Sherlock Holmes Vol.2 87%
Ecco The Dolphin 96%



These ALL from SEGA Magazine:
SOTB 2 62%
Sensible Soc. 89%
MK 58%-They said despite new features, extra animation etc, it was worse than cartridge version due to loading times.
Tomcat Alley 80%
Dune 80%
Prize Fighter 59%

So, so far, how do these compare to US scores?.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 10, 2013, 16:12:22 PM
Another big wave, should help give you USA guys n girls an idea of how well the format was recived over here in UK:

MEGATECH:

Afterburner 3 22%
Batman Returns 94%
Blackhole Assault 61%
Devastor 62%
Ecco 92%
Earnest Evans 50%
Final Fight 94%
Hook 80%
Jaguar XJ220 87%
Kris Kross:M.M.Video 80%
Night Trap79%
Night stiker 17%
Prince Of persia 70%
Sewer shark 87%
S.Holmes Vol 1 79%
S.Holmes Vol 2 84%
Slipheed 94%
Switch 90%
Wolfchild 82%
Wonder Dog 82%
Keio Flying Sq. 90%
Lethal Enforcers 80%
Barai arm 69%

Phew...onto few misc scores:

Sega Power-Thunderhawk 91%

ALL these:Mean Machines:

Slipheed 90%
Ninja warriors 30% (but they hated original coin-op it seems)
Willy Beamish 68%
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 10, 2013, 16:24:03 PM
(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/gamepr10.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/januar10.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/januar11.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/25210.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/review10.jpg)

These are from Gamepro magazine. I have listed a few with the scale that was used. Later on they switched review formats.
 
I will try to find more and list the scale. 1 to 5.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 10, 2013, 16:36:47 PM
Quote from: "onthinice"
(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/gamepr10.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/januar10.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/januar11.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/25210.jpg)(http://i70.servimg.com/u/f70/17/65/85/95/review10.jpg)

These are from Gamepro magazine. I have listed a few with the scale that was used. Later on they switched review formats.
 
I will try to find more and list the scale. 1 to 5.

Cheers dude-No need to waste time looking for anymore, looks like other than you+myself, no-one wants to know.....

:-)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 10, 2013, 16:43:47 PM
What about future generations ;D
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 10, 2013, 16:53:03 PM
Great stuff ice!

I used to love GamePro and love seeing those old scans!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 10, 2013, 16:58:24 PM
Thanks Laird! I think it is interesting how different views around the world shaped what we played as kids. I appreciate Rogue Trooper for sharing :113:
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 11, 2013, 16:31:43 PM
Sadly sold my MCD and HUGE collection of games to a mate many, many years ago for a measly 60!, so all i can do these days is use old review scores to show how the games fared, as like the Jaguar, there's this 'internet myth' that MCD had no good games etc etc, when in fact games that did use the hardware or offer something a little different, did indeed fare well at review, so i'm at a loss as to where these myths spring up from.


Really wish SEGA and other developers had done enhanced/Alt. versions of games:Things like Batman Returns, Terminator S.E, Final Fight S.E, Eternal Champs, Thunderhawk, Dune etc showed what could be done by bringing an established game onto new hardware and soooo much more could have been done than chucking a cart or floppy based game onto CD with intro, CD music and possibly extra level if lucky.


There was a news piece in SEGA Magazine (i think) that claimed E.A were looking at putting the MCD ASIC? Sprite scaling chip (or similar) into a cart, to bring Wing Commander to MD-Never read it anywhere else and game finally arrived on MCD, but did you ever hear any such claims in US press?.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 11, 2013, 17:57:31 PM
I do not recall anything about Wing Commander on the MD. That is interesting :39: Thanks for sharing that info. I will keep checking old magazines and see if anything turns up.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 12, 2013, 15:51:44 PM
Before i post any more scores, slight 'disclaimer' (LOL).Scores from say Mega Tech, whilst i'd love to include more 'detail' ie reviewers comments, i only have the odd issue, so scores taken from the A-Z reviews index they print at the back of the magazine.

Anywho few more:

Eternal Champions CD/C+VG/92% 'A really superb example of how to make use of the space a CD affords.It may crank up the development time, but the waits been well worth it' (reviewer does mention it's not quite as playable as MK2 or SF2).They'd given the cart version 92% earlier.


BC Racers/C+VG, mini-box out in 32X review (which got 83%), MCD version mentioned, scored 78%, seems to lack in speed was comment.


Fatal Fury Special/Mean Machines SEGA/Overall 36% 'Looks like the 1st Street Fighter.If only it had come out 8 years ago.Dire.crap.Awful (bit of an 'odd' comment, MCD was'nt around 8 years previous).


Jurassic Park/C+VG/ 87%-It's not quite the interactive movie we were promised, but impressive all the same.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 12, 2013, 16:26:08 PM
Not seen the 'show', but am i right in thinking the AVGN say's MCD Batman Returns has too many driving stages?.If so, quite surprised to hear this as they were fantastic, not only from a technical point of view, really showcasing the hardware, but broke up the platforming really well.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 12, 2013, 16:31:22 PM
Interesting scores. BC Racers seems to be about the same as the SCD and 32X in the States. I will try to check for sure. The 32X always seems to get a bad wrap compared to the Sega Mega CD of the same games on both systems.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 12, 2013, 16:36:13 PM
I'm more than happy to transfer any MCD review scans i have, onto a memory stick, which i could loan you.Just shout out if your interested.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 13, 2013, 01:24:53 AM
Thanks Rogue Trooper!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on April 13, 2013, 07:41:13 AM
Quote from: "onthinice"
Thanks Rogue Trooper!



I'm more than happy to send you a M.stick+any other misc source material i can lay my hands on, done it for others, more than happy to do it again.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 13, 2013, 11:20:37 AM
Seeing all these terrible reviews for Night Striker I just had to look it up. I had vague memories of it being a blocky mess and looks like I was not wrong . . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p9NfFSCWzc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p9NfFSCWzc)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Rogue Trooper on October 05, 2013, 16:27:35 PM
Seem to recal a certain 'industry troll' (hint:might find him in church, lol) saying the only game to really use the MCD 3D/Sprite hardware before dissapearing down the toilet of console history, was Thunderhawk, which might be surprising to anyone who owned:

Batman Returns (driving sections, plus intro scenes) Earnest Evans, Soul Star, Battle Corps, Powermonger (fly-bys etc), BC Racers, Sonic CD (bonus stage), Joe Montana etc etc.

Starting to wonder just how much research went into a lot of the stuff i read in 'respected' publications back in the day....
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on October 06, 2013, 01:27:19 AM
I remember Chuck Rock being another title that was pushed hard. It really does not seem much different from the cart. Maybe better music.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on March 31, 2014, 19:10:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd0QSS0Sx6I#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd0QSS0Sx6I#ws)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 06, 2014, 23:07:02 PM
Good Review! I like that Sega took chances. Some of the games have little to offer over the cart version but I think Sega tried to support the CD add-on with quality titles.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on April 07, 2014, 23:19:33 PM
It's interesting because my Mega CD was probably one of the most played machines at my retro event over the weekend.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 08, 2014, 15:47:16 PM
That is good news. I am naming you the next Mega CD Good Will Ambassador! Keep bringing hope to deprived fans the world over. :113:
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TL on May 11, 2014, 13:03:12 PM
Epic intro!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIWTa5XjZP0# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIWTa5XjZP0#)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2014, 16:02:33 PM
[align=center:1ves7h9n][size=140]All Sega/Mega CD box art scans until 4:50...[/size][/align:1ves7h9n]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3TehkeT64Q#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3TehkeT64Q#ws)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: zapiy on August 04, 2014, 20:07:34 PM
Great stuf fella.. Really impressive.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Lorfarius on August 04, 2014, 20:15:26 PM
OH man that Lunar game above may have some of the best/worst voice acting I've ever heard  :105:
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on August 06, 2014, 03:35:23 AM
Quote from: "Lorfarius"
OH man that Lunar game above may have some of the best/worst voice acting I've ever heard  :21:  A true classic.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Ben on August 06, 2014, 04:49:49 AM
The one game that still kills me, is Phantasy Star IV.  Supposedly that was originally going to be a Mega CD exclusive, and it's one the add on sorely missed (I would have loved to hear that soundtrack in CD quality).
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Lorfarius on August 06, 2014, 08:38:12 AM
For me the MegaCD was always one of my fondest retro experiences but after I'd played through Snatcher and Popful Mail it sort of lost its luster.  I just wish Sega had'nt been fighting in house so much and actually focused in making more use of the format, they had the perfect example of amazing CD systems especially in Japan as the PCEngine had done wonders with it.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Ben on August 06, 2014, 21:37:59 PM
Quote from: "Lorfarius"
For me the MegaCD was always one of my fondest retro experiences but after I'd played through Snatcher and Popful Mail it sort of lost its luster.  I just wish Sega had'nt been fighting in house so much and actually focused in making more use of the format, they had the perfect example of amazing CD systems especially in Japan as the PCEngine had done wonders with it.

You know, this may be sacrilege for some people, but I would still take the Mega CD library over the TG16/PCEngine CD.  Sonic CD, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Lunar, Lunar 2, Snatcher, Dark Wizard, Earthworm Jim Special Edition, Final Fight CD, fun straight FMV games like Time Gal, Road Blaster, Revenge of the Ninja and then you get into the Japan only library...

That said, it depends on what genres you are into, and I'm admittedly a Sega fanboy.  But I was never disappointed with my Mega CD growing up, my anger was always more that they killed it in favor of the 32X/32X CD platform.  Don't get me wrong, the 32X did have a few gems, but I still think that being left with such a pricey add on with little support was a big factor in driving people away from Sega to Sony in the U.S., when the Saturn launched.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 06, 2014, 22:03:31 PM
You know, I had completely forgotten about Cadillacs and Dinosaurs!  I need to get that!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: zapiy on August 07, 2014, 01:24:30 AM
Never heard of it.. Any good?
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 07, 2014, 02:19:57 AM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Never heard of it.. Any good?

It's a port of an arcade game.  I've heard it is a good game but it doesn't appeal to everyone.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Ben on August 07, 2014, 03:51:41 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Quote from: "zapiy"
Never heard of it.. Any good?

It's a port of an arcade game.  I've heard it is a good game but it doesn't appeal to everyone.

I just wanted to clarify that, and make sure people know there are two separate Cadillacs and Dinosaurs games.  An arcade beat 'em up by Capcom and a hyrbrid FMV shooter exclusive to the Mega CD that was later ported to Windows PCs.  As far as I know, the Capcom beat 'em up never saw a home console release.  Here are videos comparing them:

First, the Mega CD game:  Cadillacs and Dinosaurs The Second Cataclysm (Mega-CD) (http://http)

Then the Capcom arcade game: Cadillacs and Dinosaurs Arcade - 3 players Playthrough (http://http)

They are both based on a really great, 1950's inspired comic series that was sadly never finished, called Xenozoic Tales:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenozoic_Tales (http://http)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 07, 2014, 04:14:06 AM
Those two games are as different as they can be!  I did know about the story coming from a comic book.  I just didn't realize it was a comic book from the 50's!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Ben on August 07, 2014, 04:42:48 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Those two games are as different as they can be!  I did know about the story coming from a comic book.  I just didn't realize it was a comic book from the 50's!

Actually, the funny thing about it is, it's only drawn to look like it's from the 50's (as well as in b&w), it was actually done in the late 80's/early 90's as an indie book.   Mark Schultz was so good at replicating that style that he got the job drawing Prince Valiant  (a strip that began in the 30's and maintains a classic art style).  From what I understand, doing a smaller Indie book wasn't paying the bills, which is why he had to stop and do Prince Valiant instead.  There was also a cartoon based on it (called Cadillacs and Dinosaurs instead of Xenozoic Tales, also where the games get their name), but it's not faithful to the comics.  It's available in a really nice (and cheap) collection: U.S. - http://www.amazon.com/Xenozoic-Mark-Schultz/dp/1933865318/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407382761&sr=8-1&keywords=xenozoic+tales (http://http) U.K.  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xenozoic-Mark-Schultz/dp/1933865318/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407382800&sr=8-1&keywords=xenozoic (http://http)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 07, 2014, 04:44:53 AM
Oh, that's even cooler.  :)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on August 08, 2014, 02:55:45 AM
I suck at the game on the Sega CD but the cartoon is cool. Never read the comics but sounds worth tracking down one.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Bobinator on August 22, 2014, 04:30:08 AM
I can vouch that the arcade game is like a million times better, and that you should be playing that instead. The Sega CD game is one of the many, many attempts to make an FMV-based action game, much like Rebel Assault or Microcosm, and it just... really doesn't work.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on August 22, 2014, 21:48:03 PM
C&D arcade is awesome, dijt rea;ise the SegaCD version was such gash!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 26, 2014, 14:03:08 PM
Just watched this from the Game Sack guys.  Check it out...

[align=center:22qq8g06]Game Sack - The Sega CD (http://http)[/align:22qq8g06]
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on December 15, 2014, 04:07:06 AM
I for one, am glad the Sega CD was made. Sure it had some stinkers but doesn't every system or add-on?

I still enjoy playing some of the games. Willy Beamish and Final Fight never get old.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Ben on December 20, 2014, 17:04:00 PM
I just watched that Game Sack video (thanks for posting TrekMD), and I think it does a good job of showing that there are quality games for the console.  To me, there are two main issues. 1.  The best games are very rare, expensive and obscure and 2.  There are only certain genres well represented, this is not a console where you can say that there is something for everyone.  I wish they had touched more on the Japan only releases (especially the RPGs), several of which have thankfully been fan translated.  I have to say that, speaking only for myself, I never regretted the Mega CD purchase and it is still one of my favorite consoles.  But, I also love RPGs, shmups, and side scrolling platformers/beat 'em ups as well as the occasional anime inspired FMV game.  If those aren't your thing, this just isn't a console worth picking up, I think.  If they are, this console is going to be full of hidden gems for you.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on December 25, 2014, 00:02:08 AM
You make a lot of good points Ben.

For me at least, it was impressive when first released. My friend Jim bought the first model and we were not disappointed with the games. Renting Road Avenger quite a lot.

I still remember getting Echo the Dolphin new and playing it with friends, we were all blown away. Bill Walsh College Football received a lot of play time as well. The hours I spent playing Third World War and Racing Aces.

I would like to thank Sega again and Sony should also. Sure the Sony titles were not all that good but it was lessons learned for when the Playstation was released.

So thank you Sega!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: zapiy on December 29, 2014, 23:23:21 PM
Some great points made guys.. certainly the best games appear to be the most expensive.. i guess thats just typical lol..
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Lorfarius on December 30, 2014, 11:07:26 AM
I love mine but I don't own a single original game for it  :19: Never really interested me to collect for it but I did just pick up a Sega Backup cart for 34 from Retro Towers.  The things huge and way bigger than the official one from years ago, means I can finally have a crack at the Shining Force series!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: zapiy on December 30, 2014, 16:48:26 PM
I dug mine out and I aim to have a look into more games. Will pm you Keith. Also did you use the discount code on RT?
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: onthinice on January 03, 2015, 19:20:14 PM
Keep us informed guys on your game choices.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 11, 2016, 02:50:12 AM
Check out this video from GameSack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKrOKjhVPY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKrOKjhVPY)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on July 31, 2016, 00:52:40 AM
OK, since the GameSack video didn't seem to generate discussion, maybe this one will...

http://youtu.be/jtLWPHGvdJI
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Saturn on August 01, 2016, 21:00:41 PM
Check out this video from GameSack!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKrOKjhVPY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcKrOKjhVPY)

Finally had a chance to watch this Game Sack episode. Never tried Shining Force CD although it sounds epic. I don't like RPGs much so have avoided it. May give it a go at some point.
Agree wholeheartedly about the difficulty in Soul Star. Got so tired of not finishing it I hacked (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) it to have near invincibility. Incredible game and probably my favorite for the system. 8)
Final Fight CD is up there as well. In greatness and difficulty. Game Sack guy says that with practice it can be beat but you will use the continues. Seems no matter how much I practiced could never beat it. So, hacked (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) it for invincibility too :D The visuals are stunning and this is my favorite port on comparable systems.
The Terminator always held its own imo. Great music and gameplay plus a feast for the eyes. A must have.

Had never heard of Devastator but it looks fun. Grabbing it now to see if some hacks can be done quickly for a play through 8)
Loved the complaints about Cliff Hanger. Truly difficult game (exclusive snowboarding stages) but I fixed those with hacks (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) too. One of my top 4 games for the Sega CD 8)
Battlecorps looks nice. Reminds me of Iron Soldier a bit. Haven't played it before but going to give it a spin soon.
The video used from Silpheed was awesome. I take it they didn't like the game but it's another I got tired of losing at and hacked (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118). Wanted to see/know what was next! Not cool being on rails but at the time, that was pretty standard.
Android Assault was another tough one but I fixed (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) that too. Excellent gameplay.
He called Ninja Warriors but me and a friend blew loads of money on the arcade for this way back. I was elated when I found it on this system. As hard as I remembered it being but a few small changes (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) and viola, no prob.

Dungeon Explorer seems fun. Going to play this one and see if there's anything I can do to blaze right through. Never was much into Gauntlet or understood what was so great about it but this one sure is purty :p
Ha, BC Racers, the one I could never hack. Played this game quite a bit and hold it with high regard. Anyone ever beat it?
Formula One looks like World Tour Racing for the Jaguar. His comment about the controls taking a lot of getting used to is enough to easily steer me in the other direction. See what I did there? ;)
Adventures of Batman and Robin. GS guy said it's extremely hard to win at and he's definitely right about that. Took weeks for me to get nowhere so added that baby to the list (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) and finally 'finished' it.
Popful Mail has legions of supporters but was never enticing to me. I'm probably missing out on a ton of fun but if it doesn't strike me the right way right away, I stay away. Bad rule of thumb for diversity but it's usually spot on with taste.

Eye of the Beholder always looked like crap to me. This min-review didn't help sway my opinion either. Anyone even actually own this?
Sonic CD is my personal best for the entire franchise. Couldn't get all the hacks (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) I'd wanted but have enough rings to stay alive and enter special zones so that's good enough. While tough, I think it's SUPER FUN 8) 8) 8)
And what SCD library would be complete without Keio Flying Squadron? Seriously, I thought this game was for little girls when I first saw it. But, wanting to know what was at the end, quickly pounded it with some edits (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) to make it more playable. While briefly entertaining, the ending was nothing to write home about :P
Robo Aleste was always a good one for a quick play. The backdrop/ground look nice and though there are too many enemies at any given time for my taste, it handles well and can be frantic and exciting. Wanted to see the end so changed a few bytes (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) here and there to make it happen 8)
Tried to play Panic once and two minutes in, slapped the sh*t out of myself for wasting an extra minute and 50 seconds. Not for me.
Batman Returns, another one I tried diligently to hack but couldn't. Too bad too. Would've liked to have disabled that stupid timer right off the bat to get to the 2nd level. At least that way could've gotten some enjoyment out of this beast. Maybe.
Road Avenger got pretty good marks here. I never cared for the FMV games but may try this out again at some point.

Liked the end of the video when Joe had FMVbola LOL. That was classic.

A lot of these are great games and a few are stinkers but if you want to explore them easier, take a look at my list of hacks (http://www.retrovideogamer.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=5740.msg81118#msg81118) and implement them to make it easier. Heck, you can even burn the resulting file to cd and play the hacked version on real hardware like I did. No protection back then and it's crazy to tear through Soul Star or Final Fight CD on the machine with nothing able to hurt you ;D

(was it really necessary for me to link to the hacks thread 11 times? ;))
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Saturn on August 01, 2016, 21:15:43 PM
OK, since the GameSack video didn't seem to generate discussion, maybe this one will...
http://youtu.be/jtLWPHGvdJI (http://youtu.be/jtLWPHGvdJI)

Those are some great ones. I haven't played Road Rash for an extended period because I thought it looked terrible in comparison to what the hardware could do. He says it uses the engine from the Genesis version which would explain a lot. It may be fun but never appealed to me. Maybe I'll give it a go and see if I can feel otherwise about it. 8)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 01, 2016, 22:52:14 PM
I'm sorry, Saturn, were you trying to point folks to some hacks on your dissertation for the Sega CD games video from GameSack?  ;)  That is some writing up you did there!  Lots of interesting comments.  I only have some of these titles they listed here.  Robo Aleste is one of them that I enjoy playing.  Maybe I should check your byte-slimmed version! 
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Saturn on August 02, 2016, 02:23:30 AM
I'm sorry, Saturn, were you trying to point folks to some hacks on your dissertation for the Sega CD games video from GameSack?  ;) 

Why, yes indeed :) Hoping that if anyone who has played and given up like I did so frequently, is able to 'tweak' the games a little to make them more fun. I'm all about getting enjoyment out of games and like passing along hope to others. This system is unique and a TON of fun can be had from it. While mostly overlooked in today's gaming world by all this new fangled PS4 and XBOX One nonsense, there are ways to squeeze some serious gaming out of this beauty 8)

That is some writing up you did there!  Lots of interesting comments.

Thanks!
Actually had enough down time at work today to watch it in full so I was typing in another window while it was playing. It was pretty long which is why I hadn't viewed it yet. Your comment on the next post that it hadn't generated discussion made me sad so I went through and typed what I thought live. Trust me, if I'd had time to watch it sooner I would have added to the mix. Didn't want to break it into pieces either. I like the video and it introduced me to several titles I haven't heard of and some that need to be revisited so thanks for linking it. Just wish I had time to interact while it's fresh off the pan 8) (no idea. Pan? wth)

I only have some of these titles they listed here.  Robo Aleste is one of them that I enjoy playing.  Maybe I should check your byte-slimmed version! 

Well, the Infinite Lives hack is the best way to go. Invulnerability doesn't allow weapon upgrades so your stuck with a pea shooter the whole time. At least with Inf. Lives you can catch your upgrades after being destroyed. Pretty much a powerhouse of destruction all the way to the end. I know that makes it too easy but considering how long this game is and what a daunting task it is in the later levels, to me this is a welcomed addition. :)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2016, 02:42:26 AM
Ah, no wonder you were able to do such a nice write up.  I should do the same thing in the future.  Watch on the tablet and type up stuff on the computer.  :)  Thanks for the idea and for making the effort!
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: zapiy on August 02, 2016, 09:59:55 AM
Cracking feedback fella. This is what a forum is all about. Love reading stuff like that. Will feedback my thoughts abit later on the games.


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Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Greyfox on August 02, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
Had a real soft spot for the Sega CD ,especially when an blush translation of Konami's amazing hit Policenauts showed up, a great experience really nay enjoyed on the SegaCD.

Also a great write up there Saturn, spot on the dollar on all of it, a great read thanks for efforts.
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Saturn on August 02, 2016, 14:03:50 PM
Thanks amigos. Only wish there more time in the day to invest like that. Usually it's quick visits with quick responses. Love some Sega CD though!
Wanted to input more out of respect 8)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 21, 2016, 01:28:46 AM
Thought I'd share this video I just watched.  What does everyone think of this selection of games for the Sega CD?

http://youtu.be/ao4UNPbdl9A
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Saturn on November 21, 2016, 02:39:52 AM
That's a knockout list and although mine would be in a different order, it's certainly on par imho.
Great to see some titles make the list that aren't the 'regulars'.
I'd have to have Soul Star in the top 3 though. That game uses the most of what the system had to offer and is great fun on top of it. 8)
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: TrekMD on November 21, 2016, 02:48:31 AM
One of the games they list, Sol Feace, is one I don't have.  I'll see about getting it.  :)  I also found this video from Metal Jesus which I thought was pretty good...

http://youtu.be/-vKOpPKwXgQ
Title: Re: Sega Mega CD Thread
Post by: Saturn on November 21, 2016, 03:55:37 AM
I liked that Pioneer setup for playing the Sega CDs and Laserdiscs. Didn't know that was a thing.
All those boxed systems looked incredible.