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Title: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on April 13, 2014, 01:42:52 AM
OK, here is a game that needs no introduction, Missile Command!  This game was introduced in 1980 and it is one of the top arcade games of the era.  The video has quite a few versions to go through but, most notably, the Jaguar version is not included!  I was surprised!  Anyhow, here is the video so, let's compare Missile Command!

[align=center:19teqow3]Let's Compare ( Missile Command ) (http://http)

And here is the Atari Jaguar version in "Original" mode...
Missile Command 3D (Classic) - Atari Jaguar (http://http)[/align:19teqow3]
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: 64bitRuss on April 13, 2014, 02:02:36 AM
Epic game!  :111:

Sorry to be so definitive but the 5200 is the BEST version. Authentic arcade sound fx and trak-ball control, and super freaking hard!!! There is not a better version of this game, period, unless you have the arcade cabinet I guess.

The Lynx version is pretty sweet too, but it's an ultimate version with power-ups. It has it's own special awesomeness. The 2600 version beats most of the competitors as well, with downright excellent controls with a joystick.

I liked the look of some of these though that I've never played, like the Amiga and actually the Game Gear version looked pretty darn good.

You would have to be pretty desperate for some Missile Command on some of those other versions though, MSX, Spectrum, Genesis/MD.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on April 13, 2014, 02:12:00 AM
The 2600 version can be played using the trackball controller too, which gives it an edge as well.  True that it is in joystick mode, but it is still nice to be able to do so.  :)
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on April 13, 2014, 15:43:22 PM
I am a huge Missile Command fan, it's easily one of my favourite games ever.

It's really strange that he missed out the Jaguar version, because it's easily the best one. You have a faultless version of the arcade game with extra features and the simply incredible VR mode too, it's the best game on the Jag for me.

The Lynx version is also amazing, but for a different reason as it offers a superb update on the game. The power-ups really add a new element to the game and it's right up there with the best titles on the machine.

The best original version for me is on the Atari 8-bit series, not only is it trackball compatible but plays incredibly closely to the original arcade game too. The 2600 version is also very good, even if it does take a few liberties with the gameplay (one cannon, no UFOs etc.)

Some of the clones are pretty interesting. I loved the speech on the MSX version, but not the in game so much. The Spectrum version really stood out for me, I have never seen it before and looks really good indeed. Same cam be said for that excellent BBC Micro iteration.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on April 13, 2014, 15:47:27 PM
I commented on the video about the Jaguar version.  Apparently, he couldn't get it to work and that's why it was not included. 
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on April 13, 2014, 16:57:24 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
I commented on the video about the Jaguar version.  Apparently, he couldn't get it to work and that's why it was not included.

It works fine in Virtual Jaguar!
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on April 13, 2014, 17:42:40 PM
Well, what can I say?  That was his reply.  Whatever problem he had didn't let him include it. 
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on April 16, 2014, 18:29:52 PM
One fascinating fact is that the only mainstream Atari machine that never got a version of Missile Command is the 7800, I always found this pretty strange. It came out on the 2600, 400/800/XL/XE, Lynx, ST, Jaguar, 5200 and it was also built into the XEGS.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on April 16, 2014, 21:35:36 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
One fascinating fact is that the only mainstream Atari machine that never got a version of Missile Command is the 7800, I always found this pretty strange. It came out on the 2600, 400/800/XL/XE, Lynx, ST, Jaguar, 5200 and it was also built into the XEGS.
Yes, that is indeed a curious thing.  I wonder why Atari never ported the game to the 7800.  Did they think having the ability to play the 2600 version on the console was good enough?
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on April 16, 2014, 21:43:16 PM
No idea, I reckon a 7800 version of the game would have been really good. I also just realised that he missed the Atari ST version out of this video! So here it is:

[align=center:2rwvxwbi]Nice and Games -- Missile Command [Atari ST] (http://http)[/align:2rwvxwbi]
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on April 16, 2014, 22:07:48 PM
Yes a 7800 version would have been cool.  Not only is it surprising that Atari never released a version of the game but also that no homebrewer has made clone of it for the system!
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: guest5175 on April 17, 2014, 21:18:59 PM
Ah Missile Command. I've had a love/hate relationship with this one. Of course many versions played with a joypad just don't feel right. My favorite version is definitely VR in the Jag version, I've wondered how this would play with a trackball instead of the joypad (or VR headset of course).

The ST version looks a bit bland to be honest. I would think that the ST could have pulled off something better. And while MC original is not my favorite Atari game, a 7800 version would have been a better pack in than Pole Position II (assuming it would have done what other 7800 conversions did with offering 2p play)
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on April 18, 2014, 14:02:03 PM
Quote from: "arcadehero"
Ah Missile Command. I've had a love/hate relationship with this one. Of course many versions played with a joypad just don't feel right. My favorite version is definitely VR in the Jag version, I've wondered how this would play with a trackball instead of the joypad (or VR headset of course).

The ST version looks a bit bland to be honest. I would think that the ST could have pulled off something better. And while MC original is not my favorite Atari game, a 7800 version would have been a better pack in than Pole Position II (assuming it would have done what other 7800 conversions did with offering 2p play)

The great thing about the ST version is that you can use a mouse, works really well for this game!
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: Alberto 2K on April 18, 2014, 15:54:57 PM
I have good memories about MC on the 2600, I think it was the first game I played on that system when I was a kid.

The Playstation version looks fun and the Jaguar one is great, specially the upgraded versions, one of the best games on the console and very underrated IMO.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: guest5175 on April 18, 2014, 16:06:56 PM
I wonder, could Oculus Rift be hacked to work with MCVR or vice versa?
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on April 18, 2014, 16:46:49 PM
Quote from: "arcadehero"
I wonder, could Oculus Rift be hacked to work with MCVR or vice versa?

Interesting thought actually! I am sure this would be possible to do with emulation or something.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: Alberto 2K on April 18, 2014, 16:50:29 PM
Quote from: "arcadehero"
I wonder, could Oculus Rift be hacked to work with MCVR or vice versa?
That would be great, Oculus Rift really looks nice, I'll wait to read reviews of it when released but I think I will end up buying it.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: guest5175 on April 18, 2014, 19:57:30 PM
I have a friend that spent a ton of money on building some awesome new PC rig (he says about $6000) and he also bought an OR dev kit. He's been running arcade emulation on it so perhaps when I drop by I will have to try it out and see what happens.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on April 19, 2014, 00:13:43 AM
Damn, that has to be some machine if it cost him $6000 to put it together.
Title: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: Nurmix on May 09, 2014, 16:56:46 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
...also just realised that he missed the Atari ST version out of this video...

Wow, that's quite good! I never played this on my ST (not sure how I missed it). Gonna have to get a copy. I'm guessing the two missile bases are left and right mouse button presses.

The Jaguar "classic" version looks sweet as well - not sure about the 3D version though. Looks tough to play.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on May 09, 2014, 17:51:01 PM
Quote from: "Nurmix"
Quote from: "The Laird"
...also just realised that he missed the Atari ST version out of this video...

Wow, that's quite good! I never played this on my ST (not sure how I missed it). Gonna have to get a copy. I'm guessing the two missile bases are left and right mouse button presses.

The Jaguar "classic" version looks sweet as well - not sure about the 3D version though. Looks tough to play.

Yep, two mouse buttons.

The Jag version is very easy to play actually, I think you would be surprised.
Title: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: Nurmix on May 09, 2014, 19:14:41 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"

Yep, two mouse buttons.

The Jag version is very easy to play actually, I think you would be surprised.

If only I'd held onto my Jag. Hmm.. maybe it's time to pick up another..

I still have a controller, as I used to use that for certain STE and Falcon030 games.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on May 09, 2014, 19:17:05 PM
Quote from: "Nurmix"
Quote from: "The Laird"

Yep, two mouse buttons.

The Jag version is very easy to play actually, I think you would be surprised.

If only I'd held onto my Jag. Hmm.. maybe it's time to pick up another..

I still have a controller, as I used to use that for certain STE and Falcon030 games.

IMO it's the best game on the Jaguar and worth buying the system for, especially if you are a Missile Command fan.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on May 09, 2014, 19:52:41 PM
The Jaguar version is excellent!  I'm sure you'd enjoy it Nurmix. 
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on June 06, 2014, 19:49:07 PM
[align=center:3jaohq1g]Just recently I bought this version off Xbox Live for the princely sum of 2  :16:

Missile command - New and old version XBOX Live arcade (http://http)[/align:3jaohq1g]
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on June 06, 2014, 22:23:45 PM
I like the look of that new version.  Nice modernization of the original.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: davyk on June 07, 2014, 23:23:58 PM
Loved Missile Command in the arcade. The only version I have played that is as good is playing it via MAME with a mouse and 3 buttons on the keyboard.

2600 version is admirable though.

I quite like the look of the Jaguar version - pity it doesn't have the little mushroom clouds the 2600 version has when the cities are hit.
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TL on June 13, 2014, 20:19:01 PM
[align=center:15zxslwg]I just discovered this clone for the A8, really need to give it a try!

Air Attack for the Atari 8-bit family (http://http)[/align:15zxslwg]
Title: Re: Let's Compare Missile Command
Post by: TrekMD on June 13, 2014, 21:56:16 PM
That looks pretty cool.  I like the pseudo 3D they did with the buildings.