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Title: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 19, 2014, 03:43:13 AM
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The PlayStation was released by Sony in Japan on December 3, 1994 followed by a release in North America and Europe in September 1995. The PlayStation (also known as the PSOne) was discontinued in December 2004 and a total of 102 million units were shipped by the end of its run. Games continued to sell until 2006, so the game development for the system overlapped with the PS2 and did not stop until just months before the launch of the PS3. The system was one of the first to exclusively use CD's for its games. When it launched, cartridges were still commonly used. Below is a video overview of the system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ThVMnpBtU#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9ThVMnpBtU#ws)

Any collectors of the PSOne here? I never did get this system, though my sister did get one of the smaller units when they were selling cheap. She seemed to like it but I never did try it out. I just decided to get a PSP. :)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: zapiy on March 19, 2014, 07:35:00 AM
I have the PSOne in a couple of variations. Great system with many great games but this system is one of those "is it retro" arguments lol.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 19, 2014, 12:18:26 PM
Well, it was released a year after the Jaguar and we consider the Jaguar retro.  It was released almost 20 years ago as well.  If the cut off for retro is 15 years, it meets that criterion.  LOL 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on March 19, 2014, 13:55:02 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
this system is one of those "is it retro" arguments lol.

Definitely retro.
Definitely an iconic piece of gaming hardware (though I prefer the redesigned PSOne). THE console of the 90's.
It had a similar effect to that of the Wii in that millions of "non-gamers" bought them.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on March 19, 2014, 14:16:58 PM
Yeah I definitely consider the PS1 retro. I don't have a huge collection for it, maybe 30 or 40 games at most. There are some real classics on it, but some of the early 3D games haven't aged very well.

It seems it's starting to become a very popular console to collect for. For a lot of people in their 20's this was their first console, and now that they are grown up and working they are starting to buy all the games they missed out on. Prices on ebay and such are rising rapidly for some of the games.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 19, 2014, 14:20:52 PM
So, demand for the games is up and Ebay is following the expected trend by sellers rising prices.  It does make sense, though, that folks who first played with the system are now collecting games they missed on now. 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 19, 2014, 15:42:28 PM
This marked the switch for me from computer based gaming to console as found that I simply couldn't afford the latest
PC (Amiga gaming by this point being almost dead) to play.

I had 5 PSones over time, kept buying one back every time I got rid if it lol.

Name your measure of success cliche and think it applied to PSone. It'd be a stretch to say its impact was as big as the NES but certainly I think it was the first console for a while to start selling to non gamers?
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on March 19, 2014, 17:04:58 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
It'd be a stretch to say its impact was as big as the NES..

(http://minasaywhat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/SayWhat.jpg)

I'm guessing you're American so I'll let you off! :113:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 19, 2014, 17:24:34 PM
YORKSHIRE!

I'd be honoured to be considered a yank, but no Brit all the way.

What I mean is we know the NES essentially saved the gaming industry, which is quite an achievement. The PSOne didn't have to do that but what it did do is thanks to some very snazzy marketing and games is break out of the traditional market of consoles and sell itself very successfully to a wide audience.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on March 19, 2014, 18:13:39 PM
Yes it's pretty uncommon to hear someone from the UK say the NES saved gaming! Better hope Laird doesn't see this  :21: Myself being from NA I agree, as it really did save gaming over here.

Back on topic though, I also agree the PS1 really was the first console to appeal to non gamers. It completely changed the industry, for good or bad depending on how you look at it or who you ask.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on March 19, 2014, 18:23:59 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
YORKSHIRE!

I'd be honoured to be considered a yank, but no Brit all the way.

What I mean is we know the NES essentially saved the gaming industry, which is quite an achievement. The PSOne didn't have to do that but what it did do is thanks to some very snazzy marketing and games is break out of the traditional market of consoles and sell itself very successfully to a wide audience.

The NES most certainly didn't save the gaming industry, it revitalised it - in America anyway. But in Europe, and especially the UK it bombed, it only sold around 600,000 units in the UK. That is less than the Atari Lynx and was outsold but the rival Master System by 4:1. There is so much ridiculous revisionist history about when it comes to the NES, you should probably read THIS THREAD. (http://http)

The PS1 however was successful everywhere, mainly down to Sony's aggressive marketing (that often included outright lies) and excellent developer support.

But for me personally I have absolutely zero love for the PS1, for me it was the machine that ruined the video game industry and started the turn into a world of faceless corporations releasing identikit games, endless sequels and franchises and ushered in the modern era. The PS1 is where retro gaming ended and modern gaming began, most of the games are the same as the ones released today only with worse graphics. And because of these visuals I think that most PS1 games have aged really badly and I don't see the appeal of collecting for it at all.

I own a PS1 purely for playing the original 2D Grand Theft Auto games but it will, for me personally, always be bland and soulless machine with no personality and zero appeal.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 19, 2014, 20:41:00 PM
I'll read the NES thread at a later time.....

For now though I'll continue with my reason for getting a PSX which was I wanted to play games that I couldn't on my Amiga.

GTA was the first game I wanted, and other early titles I was picking up like Destruction Derby, G Police, were fulfilling my need for 'next gen' games.

I do actually agree with Laird to a certain extent that the PS1 marked a change/end of an era in terms of gaming although what that impact meant in terms of being good or bad is very subjective.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 19, 2014, 21:01:30 PM
I would definitely agree that the PSOne marked a "change of the guard," so to speak, when it comes to video gaming.  It was the transition point from retro to modern even though it still had contemporaries that we classify as retro easily. 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on March 20, 2014, 09:40:31 AM
Franchised games and sequels were around long before the Playstation.
It's arrival did mark a change in gaming but it doesn't have to be for the better or worse. Just different.
It was great to be able to play games like Silent Hill, Resident Evil, MGS, ISS, Gran Turismo.
Games that just weren't possible before.

ps All the games I mentioned do have "worse" graphics than their modern counterparts but are
still better games. IMO.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: tomwaits on March 20, 2014, 13:23:15 PM
Quote from: "dot.fyre"
Franchised games and sequels were around long before the Playstation.
It's arrival did mark a change in gaming but it doesn't have to be for the better or worse. Just different.
It was great to be able to play games like Silent Hill, Resident Evil, MGS, ISS, Gran Turismo.
Games that just weren't possible before.

ps All the games I mentioned do have "worse" graphics than their modern counterparts but are
still better games. IMO.

Franchises and sequels were around on earlier consoles but the PS1 era was the beginning of recycled game engines in AAA titles. Developing/licensing a 3D game engine is expensive so they were re-used for sequels to ensure profitability. Tomb Raider, Tony Hawk, Spyro, etc. 'New' games were essentially map packs, cutscenes, and a new front end so that they could be released every year or two without having to develop an entirely new game. The sports game yearly update method applied to AAA games. The 'cinematic modern gaming' development model started in the PS1 era and has gradually grown to dominate console gaming since then. Bland, soulless, corporate driven gaming for the masses. Yuck.

There are so many games for PS1 that there are plenty of unique quality titles too. But, looking at the console's role in history, it was the start of mainstream modern gaming and I don't classify it as a retro system.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 20, 2014, 13:29:33 PM
If a library free from unoriginal games is what's needed for a console to be considered retro, well jus' sayin lol

I definitely don't disagree with the points being raised, just I wouldnt discount the console as retro because of them.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5130 on March 20, 2014, 19:21:29 PM
One of the greats. The N64 and Saturn are classed as retro and from the same generation so the Playstation should also be 'retro'.

Not that it really matters to me anyway when I can play the likes of Final Fantasy VIII, Spyro 1-3, Crash Bandicoot, Medievil, Driver, Doom etc.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 23, 2014, 20:06:28 PM
Be sure to check the Retro Asylum Podcase, Episode 76 for a discussion about the PSOne.  The thread with the podcast can be found here:  Retro Asylum - Episode 76 The Sony Playstation (http://http).
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on March 25, 2014, 13:37:53 PM
If the PS1 isn't retro, neither is the Saturn. They both came out at around the same time, so the way I see it, it's not really fair to say one gets to be "retro" while the other doesn't. True, what retro is or isn't can be a very difficult thing to define, but that's just how I personally feel. That said, the Playstation is honestly one of my favorite consoles, and there's a few reasons for that. It wasn't my first console, I'll admit, but it was my second, so there's a lot of nostalgia there. I had the thing since I was 6, and I've had a Playstation in some form or another ever since.

Also, I really don't think it's fair to say that the PS1 was automatically bad because it happened to have a lot of sequels. Anything popular will end up getting milked or copied, and it doesn't matter at all what system it happens on. Jet Set Willy. Pac-Man. Street Fighter. I could go on. Why is this system being singled out for this alone?

For me, it's an incredibly interesting system, for just how many games you'd see from Europe, America, and Japan, each of them bringing out their own styles  It was a very long lived system, so pretty much anything you could imagine existed on the PS1, and there's probably no other system with bigger game variety.

If you want a cinematic experience, you're drowning in it, sure. Silent Hill, Resident Evil, so on. But there's so much else to pick from. You want FMV games that'd feel right at home on the last generation? Fox Hunt, the X-Files, or with something with a little more substance, Wing Commander 3. 2D fighters? Fantastic ports of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure and Street Fighter Alpha 3, along with the original Guilty Gear. For SHMUPs, you've got original classics like Einhander right next to awesome ports like RayCrisis. And if you're wanting something closer to the Saturn's library, you can't go wrong with Bloody Roar, Omega Boost, or Ridge Racer.

I could go on, but generally put, if there's something you want on the Playstation. it's guaranteed to exist. And that's part of the reason I've always been so fond of it. It's just that mix of stuff you'd probably see, and in the case of some games, would see, before slowly transitioning to more modern stuff, that I really like.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: zapiy on March 25, 2014, 20:23:42 PM
Some very good points Bob, the PS1 is indeed retro.. It also has some amazing games as you stated and so what if it has rinse and repeat games.. Its the fans that kept buying them so hardly the consoles fault lol..
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 25, 2014, 21:17:42 PM
Clearly the question comes up often as that is one of the first things they ask on the podcast!  Is the PSOne retro? 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on March 26, 2014, 02:42:52 AM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Some very good points Bob, the PS1 is indeed retro.. It also has some amazing games as you stated and so what if it has rinse and repeat games.. Its the fans that kept buying them so hardly the consoles fault lol..

Well, you know, I won't deny it has a lot of sequels? But guess what else has a lot of sequels? Literally everything else. It just feels like a pretty huge double standard to me, is all. I know you're agreeing with me, that's just the point I'm trying to make.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: SnakeEyes on March 26, 2014, 12:31:49 PM
Yes the PS1 spawned sequels, but what console did not. how many sonic games were released on MD etc.

What people forget is that most of those games that spawned sequels were original games at the time, people are looking at the PS1 in hindsight. but at the time Resident evil, Tombraider, Gran turismo, GTA etc were not sequels. they were fresh new exciting games and they were amazing.

look at the Snes and MD, we here about the whole " i still remember the first time I played Sonic or Streetfighter " comments and people remember them fondly because it was amazing at the time. no one talks about how they both were the beginning of endless sequels, So why does the PS1 seem to be the only console that gets this thrown at it.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 26, 2014, 13:20:34 PM
Streetfighter 2 had how many versions again lol
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 26, 2014, 20:59:07 PM
OK, how about shifting the conversation to something else.  Here is a video that lists Top 10 PSOne games.  I'm sure everyone has their top 10 games, so how does your list compare to this one? 

[align=center:1mojz6zs]Top 10 Playstation One Games (http://http)[/align:1mojz6zs]
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 26, 2014, 23:22:38 PM
My top yen would be the games I couldn't play eldewhere. So cliches included:

GTA
Final Fantasy 7
Grab Turismo
Destruction Derby 2
Bushido Blade
Tekken 2
Die Hard Trilogy
G Police
Guilty Gear
G Darius

In no order but those are the games that made me go Wow!

And I couldn't get Wipeout or TOCA in there!
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on March 26, 2014, 23:43:08 PM
Die Hard Trilogy is on the Saturn too and works with the excellent Virtua Gun
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 26, 2014, 23:49:13 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
My top yen would be the games I couldn't play eldewhere. So cliches included:

GTA
Final Fantasy 7
Grab Turismo
Destruction Derby 2
Bushido Blade
Tekken 2
Die Hard Trilogy
G Police
Guilty Gear
G Darius

In no order but those are the games that made me go Wow!

And I couldn't get Wipeout or TOCA in there!

Cool.  What did you think of the list on the video?  Are they worthwhile titles to be on a top 10 list? 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 27, 2014, 00:47:33 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"

Cool.  What did you think of the list on the video?  Are they worthwhile titles to be on a top 10 list?

Medievil - I remember it, but only played the demo
Driver - how could i forget! Sequal was better tho. One for my list too.
Tomb Raider - Never liked it although drowning her was fun
ToyStory2 - Never played it
LOC:SR - Never played it
GTA2 - Would have been on my list but I had it on PC as by this time I had a PC for 'Uni' lol
GT2 - Yes and better than GT1 on my list, but I look back and remember GT with higher regard for impact at the time
CrashBandicoot - Never played any of them
FF7 - On my list
MGS - never got further into it than hiding in a box in the demo

TBH on his list, he has more platformers and 'action adventure' ala LOC:SR or Medievil which I dont play that much, thats fine its his list but I prefer mine lol
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 27, 2014, 01:37:05 AM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
Tomb Raider - Never liked it although drowning her was fun
:21:


Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
TBH on his list, he has more platformers and 'action adventure' ala LOC:SR or Medievil which I dont play that much, thats fine its his list but I prefer mine lol
That's to be expected.  Everyone has their top game for a system based on their general taste for games.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on March 27, 2014, 02:38:27 AM
Not a bad list, but like Wiggy mine would be different.
In no order:

Doom
Castlevania: SOTN
Metal Gear Solid
Suikoden
Kings Field
Kings Field 2
Arc the Lad 2
Power Slave
Star Ocean: The second story
Jumping Flash

And yes I think my list is better too  :21:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 27, 2014, 02:46:39 AM
At least you can't say "mine is bigger than yours" since both lists have 10 games.   :21:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on March 27, 2014, 09:06:07 AM
Gran Turismo 2
ISS Pro Evo 2
Tekken 3
Metal Gear Solid
Ridge Racer Type 4
Resident Evil 2
Jade Cocoon
Silent Hill
Vagrant Story
Anna Kournikova's Smash Court Tennis
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 27, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
Tekken 2 vs Tekken 3 ?

For me I always found T2 to be a little more quicker to play, and perhaps a little simpler. T3 perhaps a little bloated?

I always liked the stories in Tekken though and the Double Dragon style brawler in T3 (T Tag as well?) was something brave to try.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: dot.fyre on March 27, 2014, 10:19:19 AM
I chose Tekken 3 over 2 due to the inclusion of Tekken Ball! :)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: tomwaits on March 27, 2014, 13:14:47 PM
(side note, but Tekken Ball returned in the Wii U version of Tekken Tag Tournament 2)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5130 on March 27, 2014, 18:51:13 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
Tekken 2 vs Tekken 3 ?

For me I always found T2 to be a little more quicker to play, and perhaps a little simpler. T3 perhaps a little bloated?

I always liked the stories in Tekken though and the Double Dragon style brawler in T3 (T Tag as well?) was something brave to try.

Tekken 2 was better for me because the stages and especially the music were just so good. Tekken 3 has a great OST too (I have the CD's) but a greater number of grittier/edgier tracks which I - personally - am not a massive fan of. T2 seemed quicker because it ran at 60fps.

Tekken Force in T3 was great though I played it again not long ago and it hadn't aged very well. Still fun though and far better than The Devil Within (Tekken 5) and the dull Tekken 6 equivalent.

Anyway, my top 10 (in no order) would be:

Spyro the Dragon
Crash Bandicoot 2
Medievil
Driver
Final Fantasy VIII
Tekken 2
Soulblade
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Spiderman 2: Enter Electro
Crash Team Racing


There are plenty of others that could have been on that list and also many other 'greats' that I still haven't played. I'm pretty eager to play the full versions of Tombi and Kula World (as opposed to the demos that I thrashed the hell out of).
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on March 27, 2014, 19:20:25 PM
Quote from: "Megamixer"

Spyro the Dragon

Ah Spyro, when you were cool and hadn't been raped to become the bastard son of Pokemon!  :24:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on March 27, 2014, 19:29:03 PM
I can't say that all of these are my favorites, and this list is subject to change based on my mood. But these are ten games I think are pretty awesome, regardless.

Crash Bandicoot 3: Warped
Crash Team Racing
Bloody Roar 2
Apocalypse
Powerslave (Sure, it's on the Saturn, but the PS1 version is actually a little different.)
Omega Boost
Evil Zone
Rayman 2 (Not one of the better ports, but still a pretty good game, regardless)
Twisted Metal: Small Brawl (Would have gone to TM2, but I think the AI in this is a bit more fair.)
Rising Zan: The Samurai Gunman
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on March 27, 2014, 21:48:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rSLInBkY9I#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rSLInBkY9I#ws)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 28, 2014, 12:51:05 PM
Here is another Top 10 list, this time from the blog of very own member, Ashely:  Top 10 Playstation 1 Games (http://http)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on March 31, 2014, 11:44:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah2K08oF7is#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah2K08oF7is#ws)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on April 01, 2014, 23:41:05 PM
Wow, Warhawk actually looks like a lot of fun. I haven't actually played that one, so that might be what I go for next. See, if you look at the video, that's exactly what I'm talking about, that strange little period between the 16-bit and 32-bit eras... where you have 3D graphics and more complicated controls, but you still get stuff like the cheesy FMV cutscenes that you'd see all over something like the Sega CD or 3D. Even if it only lasted for a year or two, I love that kind of era. Disruptor's great for that kind of thing, too. Actually, I heard once it was going to be a 3DO game, and it definately has that kind of feel to it.

I can confirm Ape Escape's really good, too. It's pretty interesting to have a 3D platformer where the collectibles try to avoid you and actively fight back. The whole dual analog thing works really well, too. On the subject of platformers, I'd recommend anybody who's interested in Crash and Spyro start with the second game in each series. Spyro 2 is a lot less easy and generally less empty feeling in its levels, while Crash 2 is much, much fairer in terms of difficulty.

Great video, though. Definitely shows off the variety on the PS1 and all the genres you could find on it, although there's quite a few games I'd say they missed.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on April 03, 2014, 20:40:08 PM
[align=center:1asd9xz6]I am really not a fan of the 3D stuff on the PS1, most of it has aged terribly. The is some great 2D stuff though like the first few GTA games and this wonderful Arkanoid clone:

Blockbuster Sony Play Station (http://http)[/align:1asd9xz6]
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on April 03, 2014, 20:58:01 PM
There's a lot of good 2D stuff on the PS1, if you know where to look. Maybe not quite as much as the 3D stuff, sure, but there's plenty of variety to be had, either way. If we're picking out stuff that wasn't in that Game Sack video...

(http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/guilty-gear-psx-final.jpg)
Guilty Gear

(http://gamerlimit.com/files/2009/12/Skullmonkeys-JoeHeadJoe.jpg)
Skullmonkeys

(http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/3661/461105-blood_omen__7_.jpg)
Blood Omen: Legacy of Kain

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Silhouette_mirage_psx_gameplay.png)
Silhouette Mirage

And that's not even going into the ports, of which there are so many, many good ones.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5130 on April 04, 2014, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: "The Laird"
[align=center:xg8ableg]I am really not a fan of the 3D stuff on the PS1, most of it has aged terribly. The is some great 2D stuff though like the first few GTA games and this wonderful Arkanoid clone:[/align:xg8ableg]

Have you tried the Playstation version of Space Invaders? I think it's pretty damn good with boss battles, lots of new aliens and cool power-ups.

Quote from: "Bobinator"
There's a lot of good 2D stuff on the PS1, if you know where to look. Maybe not quite as much as the 3D stuff, sure, but there's plenty of variety to be had, either way. If we're picking out stuff that wasn't in that Game Sack video...

(http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/guilty-gear-psx-final.jpg)
Guilty Gear

Been playing this recently and while it's not my favourite 2D fighter by any means, I'm impressed on a technical level. It all plays very well with minimal loading and really trumps most of Capcom's 2D efforts on the console. If only the final two bosses weren't such a nightmare!
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on April 04, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: "Megamixer"
Have you tried the Playstation version of Space Invaders? I think it's pretty damn good with boss battles, lots of new aliens and cool power-ups.

No, I only have a few PS1 games. I do have the Saturn version though, but I think it's a different game.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on April 04, 2014, 12:46:23 PM
(http://www.unseen64.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/guilty-gear-psx-final.jpg)



My favourite 2d fighter, now I'm not a fan of beat em ups as a rule as I find them great to watch being played (by good players) but very hard and frustrating myself.

That said, GG is the only fighter Ive played that I was actually good at and able to learn some moves. The series went a bit OTT in later years in terms of moves/combos etc but I found the first one very accessible.

 (http://http)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on April 04, 2014, 13:50:43 PM
[align=center:35wjoglt]CGRundertow SPACE INVADERS for PlayStation Video Game Review (http://http)[/align:35wjoglt]

This is Space Invaders on the PS1, which I can confirm is a different game from the Saturn. I haven't actually tried this one that much, but I do remember it being fun. The whole color maching thing is a lot of fun, and makes it feel a lot more... puzzle-y, for lack of a better word.

Man, living in that era where they remade EVERYTHING was kind of awesome, and it's a shame that kind of died by the time the PS2 hit. I remember having Q-Bert and Pong, which were pretty good, and Frogger, which was... kind of frustrating. Yeah, they remade Pong, seriously. Wasn't that bad, as long as you had somebody to play it with.

[align=center:35wjoglt]Classic Game Room - PONG: THE NEXT LEVEL for Playstation review (http://http)[/align:35wjoglt]

Just goes to show just how far-reaching the library on this thing is, doesn't it? :P
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on April 04, 2014, 13:58:35 PM
Fixed those links for you again, you keep forgetting to remove the "s" :21:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on April 04, 2014, 14:19:05 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Fixed those links for you again, you keep forgetting to remove the "s" :21:

All right, nobody says you have to keep posting. Just saying. Besides, to be honest, I haven't really seen you explain your reasoning beyond "I don't like the look of the console" and "There are a lot of sequels on this", both of which could be applied to any console ever made.

PS1 Underrated Gem: Apocalypse (http://http)

Anyway! While we're posting random awesome games, have I mentioned this one yet? This is Apocoloypse, by the guys who would go on to make the Tony Hawk games. It's a fantastic Contra-style game, which, somehow, manages to be much better than the actual Contra games released for the PS1. You're also basically playing as Bruce Willis, which is also a bonus in my book.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on April 04, 2014, 15:10:39 PM
Quote from: "Bobinator"
Wow, Warhawk actually looks like a lot of fun. I haven't actually played that one, so that might be what I go for next. See, if you look at the video, that's exactly what I'm talking about, that strange little period between the 16-bit and 32-bit eras... where you have 3D graphics and more complicated controls, but you still get stuff like the cheesy FMV cutscenes that you'd see all over something like the Sega CD or 3D. Even if it only lasted for a year or two, I love that kind of era. Disruptor's great for that kind of thing, too. Actually, I heard once it was going to be a 3DO game, and it definately has that kind of feel to it.

Warhawk is a pretty cool game. It was one of the first games I bought for the PS1 and I had a lot of fun with it. They actually made a sequel for the PS3, but it was online multiplayer ony so I never tried it.

Disrupter is another great one, and I bought it because it did indeed start off as a 3DO game! There was a couple 3DO tips, tricks, and reviews books published back in the day, and in the 2nd book there was a small mention of the game and a screenshot I think. I still have the book but haven't looked at it in years and can't remember exactly how much info there was. In any case, being the huge 3DO fan I was and knowing how the game started I had to get it for the PS1 when it came out  :)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on April 04, 2014, 16:23:45 PM
See, I really like that. The first couple of years of the PS1 are basically a continuation of what the 3DO was trying to do, before it became its own unique thing. I think Blood Omen was going to hit 3DO, too. I don't have much proof of that, to be entirely honest, but all the use of FMV and the way it streams music AND dialogue off the disc is very... multimedia.

Speaking of Blood Omen, I ought to play Legacy of Kain one of these days. I never played it beyond a demo disc.

...Hey, speaking of which, you know what was the best thing ever? Having your mom take you to the drugstore/chemist/whatever you call it and letting you get the newest issue of PlayStation Magazine. They always had some great demo discs in their issues, and that's how I discovered a LOT of good games.

Classic Game Gems: Official U.S PlayStation Magazine No.14 (http://http)

(Didn't have this one, but it's a good example of what they were like.)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on April 04, 2014, 17:15:44 PM
Blood Omen is another game I bought early and really enjoyed, until I got completely stuck and couldn't figure out what to do next! This was before I had internet access and couldn't find any info in any magazines at the time so I eventually traded the game in. I really need to buy this game again someday. As far as being started on the 3DO, I've also heard the same story and considering it was developed by Crystal Dynamics ( who made a lot of 3DO games ) I would think it's true.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5130 on April 04, 2014, 21:21:52 PM
Quote from: "Bobinator"
Man, living in that era where they remade EVERYTHING was kind of awesome, and it's a shame that kind of died by the time the PS2 hit. I remember having Q-Bert and Pong, which were pretty good, and Frogger, which was... kind of frustrating. Yeah, they remade Pong, seriously. Wasn't that bad, as long as you had somebody to play it with.

Some of the remakes of arcade games were part of that deal with Hasbro. The Space Invaders one is one of my top PS1 games even though I've not managed to beat the final level where the boss is that big monster off the original cabinet art. Played a lot of co-op back in the day which is really fun but even then we couldn't quite do it. The game also came out on N64, GBC and GBA though I've never actually played those versions to comment. It's called Space Invaders X in Japan.

I also have Frogger 2: Swampy's Revenge which is probably very far away from the original game but still a fun curio. The first levels have garden mazes where Frogger has to avoid living lawnmowers with big teeth  :21:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: davyk on April 04, 2014, 23:19:59 PM
One of my favourites....known as Kurushi and Kurushi Final in Europe:


I.Q opening to 1st stage (http://http)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on April 05, 2014, 02:52:14 AM
Quote from: "davyK"
One of my favourites....known as Kurushi and Kurushi Final in Europe:


I.Q opening to 1st stage (http://http)

Wow not seen that in years, very odd fun game:))
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 05, 2014, 18:28:05 PM
I avoided the Playstation when it was new. The price was just to high. Now, wish I had bought one then. Because, I have found it to be a great system with lots of unique titles. 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on April 05, 2014, 18:44:43 PM
Quote from: "onthinice"
I avoided the Playstation when it was new. The price was just to high. Now, wish I had bought one then. Because, I have found it to be a great system with lots of unique titles.

I just checked eBay UK for you. They're so cheap right now you can buy four of them for less than 30 pounds, including shipping. Or, you can get the slim console, four games, the cables, and one controller for less then 20. (http://http) I say go for it, personally, that,s a great deal!

Unless you already have one, which I should I have assumed was possible, and I should shut up. Oh well, I went through the trouble of posting that link, might as well see if somebody gets use out of it.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: onthinice on April 10, 2014, 15:42:29 PM
Thanks Bobinator! That is a great deal.

I recently was given a slim version and was very impressed for the small size how much better the games played over the original Playstation. Seems like the load times were quicker.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on April 10, 2014, 16:10:43 PM
Quote from: "Bobinator"
Quote from: "onthinice"
I avoided the Playstation when it was new. The price was just to high. Now, wish I had bought one then. Because, I have found it to be a great system with lots of unique titles.

I just checked eBay UK for you. They're so cheap right now you can buy four of them for less than 30 pounds, including shipping. Or, you can get the slim console, four games, the cables, and one controller for less then 20. (http://http) I say go for it, personally, that,s a great deal!

Unless you already have one, which I should I have assumed was possible, and I should shut up. Oh well, I went through the trouble of posting that link, might as well see if somebody gets use out of it.

That would be great if he didn't live in the same country as you  :21:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on April 10, 2014, 23:00:35 PM
OK, figured I'd add two new videos from Metal Jesus looking at Hidden Gems for the PSOne...

[align=center:1jvud4x9]PS1 Collecting - Hidden Gems (http://http)

PS1 Collecting: More Hidden Gems (http://http)[/align:1jvud4x9]
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on April 14, 2014, 10:34:07 AM
Both of those videos have some corkers and I'm proud to say I've played some of them.

The space shooters interest me most, Colony Wars by Psygnosis, Omega Boost by Polyphony and Einhander by Square are three I think I want.

One I can recommend is G Darius, bought randomly when I traded Sensible Soccer for it (deal of the century!) its a top game.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5130 on April 16, 2014, 15:21:27 PM
I can certainly recommend Einhander. Cost me around 10 to import from Japan via ebay so not too expensive either. You can probably but it a few quid cheaper if you don't mind a copy in rougher condition.

Ghost in the Shell is another great game but expensive and uncommon on PAL. The Japanese import is a lot cheaper and has full English screentext (as well as a cooler cover) so there's no excuse not to save cash if you have a chipped console  :1:
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on April 16, 2014, 15:55:26 PM
Quote from: "Megamixer"
I can certainly recommend Einhander. Cost me around 10 to import from Japan via ebay so not too expensive either. You can probably but it a few quid cheaper if you don't mind a copy in rougher condition.

Ghost in the Shell is another great game but expensive and uncommon on PAL. The Japanese import is a lot cheaper and has full English screentext (as well as a cooler cover) so there's no excuse not to save cash if you have a chipped console  :(
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5130 on April 17, 2014, 17:59:27 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
Quote from: "Megamixer"
I can certainly recommend Einhander. Cost me around 10 to import from Japan via ebay so not too expensive either. You can probably but it a few quid cheaper if you don't mind a copy in rougher condition.

Ghost in the Shell is another great game but expensive and uncommon on PAL. The Japanese import is a lot cheaper and has full English screentext (as well as a cooler cover) so there's no excuse not to save cash if you have a chipped console  :(

Add Tombi and Kula World to that and it's exactly the same for me. You'd be looking at the best part of 150 to pick up all three now. Makes me wonder why I wasted money on full-priced games that are common-as-muck these days  :(
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Antiriad2097 on April 17, 2014, 18:40:35 PM
Einhander I just play a ripped copy. They didn't release it here, so they obviously don't want me to buy it, so I feel no guilt. Great game.

I must track down the later Colony Wars games. The first got some serious playtime, so I'm not sure why I never returned to that series.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on April 17, 2014, 18:49:16 PM
Oh I had some stuff that's not 'common as muck' . G Police for instance is not often talked about but was fantastic, racing wise Porsche Challenge is oft forgotten but is fantastic.

Sentinel Returns is another I only had the demo of but its a true classic.


That isn't to say the common stuff isn't worth getting - Die Hard Trilogy was fantastic value and looking back incredibly violent e.f. the driving section was as bad e.g. anything GTA or Carmageddon had to offer.

FF7, Tekken, Gran Turismo, FIFA (world cup '98 was excellent).

There's other stuff like the dual shock that I'd consider innovative as well.

It's a cracking system all in allO0
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5158 on April 27, 2014, 10:40:44 AM
Game development stopped just months before the release of the PS3!!!

Mind has now been officially blown!
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Alberto 2K on April 27, 2014, 23:30:31 PM
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
Sentinel Returns is another I only had the demo of but its a true classic.
I've been thinking about purchasing this title some days ago, the thing is I will only play it on the PS3 and doing it in a LCD TV would be a crime...

I bought a couple of years ago Heart of Darkness, G-Police, Destruction Derby, Oddworld 1 & 2 and I was very disappointed... great games though!
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Ben on April 27, 2014, 23:49:37 PM
Just thought I would mention, on that front, the best way to play PSX games now is via the PCSX-R emulator and it's Peops plugin, if you have a decent video card that can output hdmi or component to your LCD tv.  A lot of purists believe you have to play on real hardware, but you're basically just beefing up the graphics capability of the original hardware; they're the same polygons that are being rendered.  It will work fine with an XBOX 360 controller, I usually use the regular one for Dual Shock games and a fight pad (that is made like a Saturn controller) for 2d ones.  It will make most 3d PSX games look like early PS2 games, it really is fantastic.

Also, just recommending a few games I haven't seen mentioned here (a few of which were not released in the UK):  Xenogears was probably my favorite RPG for the system (JP/US only), there is a very underrated SRPG called Kartia (or Legend of Kartia in the UK) with artwork by Amano (of FF1 through FFVI fame).  Altus had another great SRPG called Brigandine, as well.  I would also highly recommend the Klonoa games, they are very underrated 2.5d platformers, if you're into those.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: WiggyDiggyPoo on April 28, 2014, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: "Alberto 2K"
Quote from: "WiggyDiggyPoo"
Sentinel Returns is another I only had the demo of but its a true classic.
I've been thinking about purchasing this title some days ago, the thing is I will only play it on the PS3 and doing it in a LCD TV would be a crime...

I bought a couple of years ago Heart of Darkness, G-Police, Destruction Derby, Oddworld 1 & 2 and I was very disappointed... great games though!

Destruction Derby and its sequal are fantastic, the second in particular although fair to good reviews is very underated. They were made by Reflections who also did the sublime Driver.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on May 01, 2014, 13:54:16 PM
[align=center:uq58ez09]Alien Resurrection (PS1) - Leftover Culture Review (http://http)[/align:uq58ez09]
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on May 01, 2014, 19:47:09 PM
Very nice review from LOC!  The game does look pretty good.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TL on May 14, 2014, 20:17:11 PM
[align=center:3hea45vi]Fun Quirky & Weird PS1 Games! (http://http)[/align:3hea45vi]
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5158 on July 27, 2014, 18:08:33 PM
PS1 was my first "proper" console (previously had a Saturn until it packed up after about 3 months when I was a kid and it got taken back and replaced by the Sony PS).
For me it was everything...Gran Turismo, Spyro, Crash Bandicoot...spent as much time as possible on these classics.

Shame because it's probably the least popular console now in the UK...at car boots people can't sell them even for 2!
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on July 27, 2014, 18:11:33 PM
Quote from: "ashleybrierley"
Shame because it's probably the least popular console now in the UK...at car boots people can't sell them even for 2!

Wow, that's amazing.  The PS2 is compatible with the PS1 games, right?  Maybe that has something to do with the PS1 not having popularity as a retro console to purchase. 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: SnakeEyes on July 27, 2014, 18:20:36 PM
The ps1 has some really good games. Found this though for any people really into ps1

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121391707546?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649 (http://http)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: guest5158 on July 27, 2014, 18:21:24 PM
Yeah, I think here (from what I've seen) peoples opinions are "why have a ps1 when the ps2 can support it, and play DVD's"
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: SnakeEyes on July 27, 2014, 18:23:36 PM
Quote from: "ashleybrierley"
Yeah, I think here (from what I've seen) peoples opinions are "why have a ps1 when the ps2 can support it, and play DVD's"

PS1's themselves are far easier to mod. essential as a PS1 collector if you want to find all the amazing hidden gems that only came out in japan.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on July 27, 2014, 18:24:28 PM
Quote from: "ashleybrierley"
Yeah, I think here (from what I've seen) peoples opinions are "why have a ps1 when the ps2 can support it, and play DVD's"
To be honest, that would be my mindset as well.  It's like getting two consoles in one along with a bonus DVD player.  More bang for your money. 
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 02, 2014, 15:55:21 PM
[align=center:1sv8yj96]1,285 Sony Playstation Box Art Scans (http://http)[/align:1sv8yj96]
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on August 02, 2014, 22:08:56 PM
The video doesn't really show them off, but my favorite PS1 covers have always been the longboxes.

(http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/36129-2/Descent+for+PS1+Rare+Long+Box+Edition+opened+raer.JPG)

They're not as easy to stack as later boxes, which are more like music CDs, but there's just something so... nostalgic, for lack of a better word, about them. I've just always loved the game boxes that are more like VHS tapes than DVD boxes, personally.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on August 03, 2014, 03:10:06 AM
I agree, PS1 longboxes are the best, for pretty much the same reasons. I only have around 10 of them but I would like to get more.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2014, 04:06:54 AM
Were those the boxes used for early games?
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Bobinator on August 03, 2014, 04:12:15 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Were those the boxes used for early games?

Yep. 1995, up to early 1996, I believe, which is when they switched to the plastic "music CD" style cases.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2014, 04:18:21 AM
Quote from: "Bobinator"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Were those the boxes used for early games?

Yep. 1995, up to early 1996, I believe, which is when they switched to the plastic "music CD" style cases.

I wonder if it was just a cost-cutting measure.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: wyldephang on August 03, 2014, 05:20:00 AM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Quote from: "Bobinator"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
Were those the boxes used for early games?

Yep. 1995, up to early 1996, I believe, which is when they switched to the plastic "music CD" style cases.

I wonder if it was just a cost-cutting measure.

That's possible, but it was far more convenient to store and display jewel cases than the long-box games.  Around that time, game companies started to adopt more conventional storage methods.  By the next generation, just about everything here in North America came in DVD-style cases.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Shadowrunner on August 03, 2014, 08:25:49 AM
Not sure why they switched, but I do remember reading a magazine article about these cases back in the day. Sony couldn't get enough cases made in time for the launch and so they bought Saturn cases from Sega to get the games out. That's why some early PS1 games are in clear plastic cases rather than the custom black edge cases. Or at least that's what EGM said  :)
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 03, 2014, 15:15:13 PM
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"
Not sure why they switched, but I do remember reading a magazine article about these cases back in the day. Sony couldn't get enough cases made in time for the launch and so they bought Saturn cases from Sega to get the games out. That's why some early PS1 games are in clear plastic cases rather than the custom black edge cases. Or at least that's what EGM said  :)

Interesting...
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: zapiy on August 07, 2014, 01:04:19 AM
That is very interesting.. Not sure i have many of those cases if any..
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on August 05, 2015, 23:28:14 PM
Well, I posted Metal Jesus' review of the Genesis/MD Megatron so here is the review of the PSOne Optimus Prime!  Check it out!  Really cool!

[align=center:13tgvvlv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-PFp4OXbdE[/align:13tgvvlv]
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: Isgoed on September 13, 2015, 16:35:02 PM
I also think that the PS1 is cool, and retro as well.

Back in the day I didn't give it much attention, as I was into PC gaming.

Some years back I bumped onto a PSone kiosk, and have been collecting 2-player PS1 games for the kiosk.
It was then that I discovered the many great games this console has.

I also like pinball games, and the PS1 has plenty of those, and some use the Dualshock in a very good way.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: zapiy on September 20, 2015, 20:07:38 PM
Yeah the PS1 is certainly a blessed system when it comes to its games catalogue..
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: vandro on September 21, 2015, 08:27:52 AM
What is also superb about the PS1 is how cheap it currently is to start collecting! I'm a huge fan of Vigilante 8 in particular.
Title: Re: Sony PlayStation One Discussion Thread
Post by: TrekMD on July 21, 2017, 22:54:51 PM
Thought I'd share this video from Metal Jesus about some rare games for the PS1:

https://youtu.be/7g4n-ewugCw