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Retro Console Gaming => Homebrew Chat => Topic started by: TrekMD on October 05, 2012, 21:47:02 PM

Title: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on October 05, 2012, 21:47:02 PM
One of the homebrew guys (TEP392) over in AA is working on a hack of Donkey Kong for the Atari 7800 that will, hopefully, see release for the XM unit. Sound has already been added to the game but he is making other additions. Most notably this one:

[align=center:2dv9tggm](http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=260824)[/align:2dv9tggm]

Some of his other additions:
- 'How High Can You Get' screen
- Alternating music after rescuing Pauline
- Kong climbing ladder at the end of girder and elevator levels
- Intro with Kong climbing ladder and hopping across top

Once he is done, this will be become another top notch version of DK for a retro console. :) Looking forward to the final product!
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: Shadowrunner on October 05, 2012, 22:00:38 PM
What exactly is this XM unit I keep hearing about?
Enlighten me Trek. :)
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TL on October 05, 2012, 22:04:23 PM
This looks and sounds awesome!!!!!  8)

The XM is the 7800 eXpansion Module, it plugs into the catridge slot on the 7800 and gives it better sound, more ram and has high score cartridge support built in. It will also allow to attach a keyboard to the 7800 for more advanced features.

This has been made to match the specifications of the one Atari planned to release for the 7800 back in the day that was scrapped due to the take over of Atari by the Tramiels.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TrekMD on October 05, 2012, 22:06:07 PM
Quote from: "Shadowrunner"
What exactly is this XM unit I keep hearing about?
Enlighten me Trek. :)

I will.  I'll create a separate thread about it.  But the short version, it is an expansion unit that is being developed that includes POKEY, Yamaha sound, extra memory, etc.  These are things that some carts had added (for example, Commando) to enhance system capabilities and provide better games.  The XM allows that by eliminating the need for additional hardware in carts. 
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: onthinice on October 06, 2012, 03:35:40 AM
Looks really good!
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TrekMD on November 23, 2012, 19:05:04 PM
There has been an update to this game that has made further improvements to the graphics, specifically, the scores, the timer, lives left, and Pauline's location. Take a look...

[align=center:1n9dcud8](https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NHzlffkonXA/UYwgNn0H51I/AAAAAAAAS0o/NnLvpvcbofE/s800/DK%25201.PNG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-sLC7JRj06OU/UYwgNsgJqKI/AAAAAAAAS0s/MuxuNz5WNt0/s800/DK%25202.PNG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MB7UVq63XEY/UYwgNllijFI/AAAAAAAAS0w/J8L_VJYfmJY/s800/DK%25203.PNG)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-iFZG3t_SN3Y/UYwgPJ2DqkI/AAAAAAAAS00/Ya-Pu8zYR68/s800/DK%25204.PNG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L-UZU3XX4Bg/UYwgPMoNLqI/AAAAAAAAS04/aZc5AvB7cf0/s800/DK%25205.PNG)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-5G_Kr6GsBFk/UYwgPZkXeCI/AAAAAAAAS1E/slYe42_duKE/s800/DK%25206.PNG)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vXzrZZivvgk/UYwgQOT1ogI/AAAAAAAAS1M/X5iQVy5zT2I/s320/DK%25207.png)[/align:1n9dcud8]
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TL on November 23, 2012, 20:00:14 PM
Looks superb!  8)
Title: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: DZ-Jay on November 25, 2012, 14:13:50 PM
What's a POKEY?

(Looks fantastic)
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TL on November 25, 2012, 14:15:25 PM
Quote from: "DZ-Jay"
What's a POKEY?

(Looks fantastic)

The sound chip that is used in the Atari 8-bit computers, 5200 and in some 7800 games. It will also be in the new 7800 Expansion Module.
Title: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: DZ-Jay on November 25, 2012, 14:19:20 PM
Ah.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: onthinice on November 26, 2012, 15:43:35 PM
Great screenshots!
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TrekMD on March 17, 2013, 21:49:05 PM
Progress on this port has continued moving along and the game is as close to the arcade as it can be.  Here is an update that Tep posted today in Atari Age:

I've made some nice updates to the game which I hope to upload later today.
- The smashed object graphic is correctly animated and multicolored.
- The elevator bouncer uses correct colors.
- Added "help!" graphic to Paulines animation.
- Hammer duration matches arcade and color changes at 50% time left.
- Fixed bug so Pauline is erased when DK grabs here.
- Adjusted bouncer position and collision boundry.  Might be a little too forgiving now. I'll look for feedback.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: onthinice on March 20, 2013, 00:47:31 AM
Thanks for the update Trek!
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TrekMD on May 09, 2013, 21:48:36 PM
The final version of DK XM demo file has been posted.  For those who want to give it a try using emulation, I'm attaching the file.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TL on May 09, 2013, 23:07:33 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
The final version of DK XM demo file has been posted.  For those who want to give it a try using emulation, I'm attaching the file.

Nice one Trek thanks!  :113:
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong with POKEY
Post by: TrekMD on May 09, 2013, 23:10:09 PM
Quote from: "The Laird"
Quote from: "TrekMD"
The final version of DK XM demo file has been posted.  For those who want to give it a try using emulation, I'm attaching the file.

Nice one Trek thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on July 20, 2013, 05:22:59 AM
Here is a side by side comparison looking at the original game as ported by Atari vs this updated version.

[align=center:txsm0rnq](http://i1303.photobucket.com/albums/ag160/TrekMD/RVG%20Images/Atari_vs_XM_zps66a55143.jpg)[/align:txsm0rnq]
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: DreamcastRIP on July 20, 2013, 07:05:51 AM
So a Donkey Kong hack being sold on cartridge for $30 plus shipping and 76 pre-orders have so far been paid for.

I've no intention of reading all 24 pages of the thread on AA about it so do we know if this person has been granted permission to use the IP and to be selling this hack?
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on September 18, 2013, 20:43:16 PM
Here is a video of the game in action on real hardware!  Yes, the game is being played using an actual eXpansion Module!!!

[align=center:vcd29xyu]Atari 7800 Donkey Kong (http://http)[/align:vcd29xyu]
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: Shadowrunner on September 18, 2013, 22:16:27 PM
Looks great but I think DC has a point in the previous post, especially now that Princess Rescue got shut down. Nintendo is obviously watching now, will they let this be released?
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on September 18, 2013, 22:23:13 PM
The carts are already made and paid for, so I'm guessing that Nintendo would only be able to stop further sales of it like they did with Princess Rescue.  Also, this hasn't had as much exposure as Princess Rescue, so they may not notice it.  Of course, they could be checking Atari Age now for any more IP violations. 
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: 64bitRuss on September 18, 2013, 23:07:30 PM
Well it's not in the AA store yet, so that's in our favor. Mine is paid for, so I hope I get this. There have been numerous other DK homebrew conversions, so I'm not too worried about it at this point, unless someone wants to be a d-bag and notify Nintendo of this game.

That said, I would prefer that this game be shipped ASAP without any more modifications. Up to now, the game has been tweaked and retweaked beyond infinitum due to some major nitpickers at AA. In the end it's a bonus as the game has been fine-tuned, but the nitpicking of every little thing needs to stop so we can get this game safely in our homes before something disastrous happens.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on September 18, 2013, 23:17:38 PM
I'm with you, I just want this to ship but Perry did need to test the game on real hardware before shipping.  Now that he has the XM to test it, we should be getting the game soon.  It also won't be in the AA store, from what I understand, so that may also help it avoid attention.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: DreamcastRIP on September 18, 2013, 23:33:32 PM
Quote from: "TrekMD"
...It also won't be in the AA store, from what I understand, so that may also help it avoid attention.

Damn! Two games being pulled due to Nintendo IP infringement in as many weeks would have been hilarious!  :21:
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TL on September 19, 2013, 07:51:33 AM
I am still honestly surprised that Atari never went after AA for copyright infringement when they were going after all those other sites. They could have had an absolute field day there.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on October 10, 2013, 02:23:52 AM
I posted about it in the Retro Purchases thread but just wanted to say that I got my cart and manual today.  Looking forward to playing it with the XM!  :) 
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: zapiy on October 10, 2013, 08:27:34 AM
Nice one let us know your thoughts mate.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on October 10, 2013, 12:17:38 PM
Quote from: "zapiy"
Nice one let us know your thoughts mate.

Will do but it'll have to wait until the XM gets here.  I want to be able to play it with sound.  From using the demo ROM on emulation, though, I can tell you this is as arcade-perfect as it gets.  :)
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: 64bitRuss on October 10, 2013, 23:54:37 PM
I also received my Donkey Kong XM version. I haven't even played it on emulation yet, I'm just waiting until I get my XM unit.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: sloan on November 12, 2013, 02:04:54 AM
Glad to see it finally shipped. Will the XM ship anytime soon?
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on November 12, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
Quote from: "sloan"
Glad to see it finally shipped. Will the XM ship anytime soon?

No specific date has been given for the release of the XM yet but we are hoping it is soon.  It was demoed recently.  :)
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on May 31, 2017, 02:38:41 AM
It's been a while but this video was posted today and I wanted to share it.  It compared Atari's original version of DK with DKXM/PK...

https://youtu.be/QwKDuvPVZ7w
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: Vadergb on June 02, 2017, 16:29:29 PM
This looks loads better than the NES version and very close to the original arcade game. Significantly better than the original 7800 version but I guess that port was rushed in 1984.
Title: Re: Atari 7800 Donkey Kong XM
Post by: TrekMD on June 02, 2017, 23:08:33 PM
It sure is.  It has to be the best version to play at home right now.